Seriously

Okay, I realize I may come off a little as pro Iraq, pro North Korea, or even pro terrorist. I'm not in the least, neither am I anti American.

What I am is pro education, and anti bullshit. By this I mean, I'm against what the US media feeds me like soup. I'm not just one crazy Canadian lefty, you'll find my viewpoint is shared by almost everyone who is not American, or raised on this stuff elsewhere.

Look, 5 billion people can't be wrong, don't believe it all.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to read that, I hope maybe you understand my politics a little better :)

Understood. I don't mind debating with you. I have debated with Anti-US people on other boards and know how they really are and how they debate. I myself have no problem with other cultures (so long as they have good human rights and such) and you won't find me slamming them either.

I will however defend my country. This doesn't mean I'm some blind Patriot or anything. There are things I don't like about the US too. I share some views too. I too hate the b.s. but am willing to listen to what other countries think as long as they don't spout crap like "stupid Americans", "fuck the USA", etc. That stuff sets me off and I don't like it when people say "stupid (insert country here)", "fuck (insert country here)", etc.

I'm not American you can classify me european with my background - Born in sweden raised in England i have swedish/danish/hungrian/English relatives

Iraq sucks i'm sick of all the don't attack iraq posters and flyers everywhere its ridiculous

That idiot Sadamn Hussain needs to be rid of in some way or another

Just send in SAS till he's dead or who ever is daft enough to join special forces (SAS have a low survival rate)

Cypher, you strike me as a very reasonable and intelligent person. I'm glad you can hear and understand things that aren't branded with the white house seal of approval, that's become rare these days :(

Monkey Magic, I think those are very poor reasons for invading another country, and I'm a little disappointed.

Originally posted by Cbass
Cypher, you strike me as a very reasonable and intelligent person. I'm glad you can hear and understand things that aren't branded with the white house seal of approval, that's become rare these days :(

Monkey Magic, I think those are very poor reasons for invading another country, and I'm a little disappointed.

want me to explain myself ?

Well number 1

he persicutes his people
He surpresses any oponents with death so that the people in his country don't have the same choices as we do

He tried to build a gun with a capability of firing a Stealth object at the UK (since it is closer that the US)

He has weapons of mass destruction the evidence is mounting

He invaded Quwait

He is trying to increase oil prices - you may not care about this but any good economist knows that if the oil prices increase significantly you can say by by to the US economy and all your nice cars and your high salaries and anything else you do.

Tyrants should not be tolerated - No tyrant has been oposed all the other tyrants in the world need an example to be set - Sadamn hussain should not die he should be removed from power

I do not agree that soldiers lives should be sacrificed
I do not agree that we should do nothing
I do not agree that we would be wasting our time dealing with Sadamn hussain

Basically if the economy goes you can kiss goodbye to your way of life

To tell the truth, in my on interests, I support the war on Iraq. I recognize that I need a stable economy in North America in the next 10 years, to allow me to get my education, some work experience, and enough net worth to set myself up comfortably in the UK.

I still think it is immoral, and greedy, but I myself am a greedy immoral person. At least I'm honest however.

I agree, if Iraq's attempt is to mess with oil prices or whatever which will result in damaging our economy then we should intervene. It's dirty but we do have to protect our countries do we not? Times like this we really need to break out all those alternative power sources so we can say "forget the Middle East".

I don't like to give in but I think we need to get out of there. Those Arabs like to stab each other in the back (yeah, we do it too) and we should let them do it. We already have this bad name as is and we have enough oil of our own in our reserves much what is not yet drilled in places like Texas and Alaska.

Besides, oil is supposed to last, what, another 50 years?

Soy diesel and hydrogen are viable and economical replacements for oil, but for the short term, it's Iraq.

Seriously, hydrogen has a very high octane rating, it's excellent for performance cars, and bio diesel is perfect for trucks and commuter cars.

Look at sig. I need performance. :D Also there is this "fusion" or was it "fission"? I wish people would look at things in the long term. I hate it when people live in the now. "Be mindful of the future". Yeah, I really like Star Wars obviously. :)

Originally posted by Cbass
To tell the truth, in my on interests, I support the war on Iraq. I recognize that I need a stable economy in North America in the next 10 years, to allow me to get my education, some work experience, and enough net worth to set myself up comfortably in the UK.

I still think it is immoral, and greedy, but I myself am a greedy immoral person. At least I'm honest however.

you wouldn't want to set yourself up nicely in the UK because you'd never have enough money

income is half that of the US
petrol (GAS) prices are composed of 80% tax
Insurance is high
cost of living is high
more and more taxes are being introduced by labour for unecessary things and reasons
Crime is extremely high
The police won't investigate any crime unless they start out with a lead (clue)
The health care sucks - no you can't have private treatment for certain things which exposes you to problems that hospitals face
No beds (still)
Uncleanliness
lack of staff - those who do work recieve low pay
poor doctors

fire strikes are occuring alot at the moment due to pay disputes
fire service workers want 30k a year which is a 40% increase what they fail to mention is they all work part-time and they all have other jobs besides that of working for the fire service


Englands climate towards business is weakening

Governments such as Labour and othe European governments are partly to blame for the recent Telecoms industry problems
They put high prices on 3G licensing to increase revenue for the respective countries and because of this telecoms companies have used of vast amounts of capital they needed to set up which sent ripples down the supply chain.

Ericsson is in Trouble - mobile phone sector failing jobs have been lost ranging in 50-100,000
Nokia - increased profits recently but have also cut its employees and its stock value has decreased
Nortel Networks - lost jobs stock value decreasing

I don't like the government in power at all

taxes increase
services decrease
Asylum seekers increase - recently Asylum seekers have been arrested with terrorist plots

we have our own people to worry about we don't need someone else's
and this is the only reason that i wouldn't want a war with iraq but somehow it seems to be part of the solution

I hate gypsies they talk to much they are thieves and they are bastards i would also like to gas them ........ maybe sadam was right on this point but pointing a massive gun at england is something i dislike

Well, the interal combustion engine is still an excellent choice, and it's just more fun than electrics. Hydrogen would make an excellent fuel in that all you need to make it is electricty, and so the price of fuel is fixed with the price of electricty.

In a country like Canada, we have many hydroelectric dams which produce more power than we need. We export this electricity to the United States for a decent profit. For instance, during the California energy crisis, electricity from my province was the only thing that kept the lights on :)

So if you can build a hydroelectric dam, you can make hydrogen fuel. It could also be done with tidal power, but that is not yet feasable/coast effective.

I agree with the UK stuff. I have seen some of it being stationed over here. How you do it, I don't know.

Still if we have to rely on fuel then why do we have crappy fuel consumption? Around the 50s and 60s, someone designed an engine that would have more power than a V8 and about as good of gas mileage as a 4 cylinder. The Big Three bought the plans and torched them. :mad: Who knows how much that tech could have been improved on by now. What we need to do is get rid of OPEC.

Originally posted by Cbass
Well, the interal combustion engine is still an excellent choice, and it's just more fun than electrics. Hydrogen would make an excellent fuel in that all you need to make it is electricty, and so the price of fuel is fixed with the price of electricty.

In a country like Canada, we have many hydroelectric dams which produce more power than we need. We export this electricity to the United States for a decent profit. For instance, during the California energy crisis, electricity from my province was the only thing that kept the lights on :)

So if you can build a hydroelectric dam, you can make hydrogen fuel. It could also be done with tidal power, but that is not yet feasable/coast effective.
i disagree with hygro electric dams

The chinese are building one on the Yangzees river and it will flood miles and miles of beautiful terrains and views. They also did this on the Nile river.

The bonus - electricity at a cheaper price and flood control
The pay off - Peoples houses - whole towns - farms vilages and no way of passing all the way up the river and the loss of beautiful views

i agree more with tidal power tho and off shore wind farms

and Solar panels geothermal

I just don't like dams

From studies I have seen, tidal power generators can destroy coastal ecosystems. Dams just create an artificial lake, and while that does mean that anything in the valley becomes lakebed, it's not really that bad. Generally, before dams can be built, there is a survey to judge the ecological impact, and if it's severe, the location is deemed unsuitable.

Hydrogen does not pollute, and is the best solution for an ecological fuel.

Originally posted by Cbass
From studies I have seen, tidal power generators can destroy coastal ecosystems. Dams just create an artificial lake, and while that does mean that anything in the valley becomes lakebed, it's not really that bad. Generally, before dams can be built, there is a survey to judge the ecological impact, and if it's severe, the location is deemed unsuitable.

Hydrogen does not pollute, and is the best solution for an ecological fuel.

well it nearly destroyed the Egyptian ruins of long ago

and the Yangzees river dam is no small Feet it is certainly going to be the biggest ever built not to mention they have to rehome 1 million people