Do Chips/ECUs Exist for 99G20t
rob99sp
10-06-2001, 10:06 PM
All of the names for chips that I have been given are only for P10s. I need a chip for my P11.
Any suggestions, names of manufacturers, websites, modifications etc...?
Any suggestions, names of manufacturers, websites, modifications etc...?
frogg
10-06-2001, 10:39 PM
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/
You're gonna have to call them up or email them because they dont list an ECU for anything over '95 I think. Tell me if they have them :cool:
You're gonna have to call them up or email them because they dont list an ECU for anything over '95 I think. Tell me if they have them :cool:
rob99sp
10-07-2001, 10:30 AM
i will
G-Forces
10-07-2001, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by rob99sp
I need a chip for my P11.
Just curious what you need it for? You get turbo? Cams?
I need a chip for my P11.
Just curious what you need it for? You get turbo? Cams?
P10DET
10-07-2001, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by rob99sp
All of the names for chips that I have been given are only for P10s. I need a chip for my P11.
Any suggestions, names of manufacturers, websites, modifications etc...?
Supposedly JUN makes them. Be prepared to spend major $$$$.
DO NOT, under any circumstances buy anything from JET regardless of what they may tell you. An ECU independently purchased from them turned out to have NO modifications to the maps what so ever. Totally stock.
All of the names for chips that I have been given are only for P10s. I need a chip for my P11.
Any suggestions, names of manufacturers, websites, modifications etc...?
Supposedly JUN makes them. Be prepared to spend major $$$$.
DO NOT, under any circumstances buy anything from JET regardless of what they may tell you. An ECU independently purchased from them turned out to have NO modifications to the maps what so ever. Totally stock.
rob99sp
10-07-2001, 06:33 PM
i want to increase hp...I heard it was the best bang for the buck.
ty423
10-07-2001, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by P10DET
Supposedly JUN makes them. Be prepared to spend major $$$$.
DO NOT, under any circumstances buy anything from JET regardless of what they may tell you. An ECU independently purchased from them turned out to have NO modifications to the maps what so ever. Totally stock.
JET??? do you mean JWT??
Supposedly JUN makes them. Be prepared to spend major $$$$.
DO NOT, under any circumstances buy anything from JET regardless of what they may tell you. An ECU independently purchased from them turned out to have NO modifications to the maps what so ever. Totally stock.
JET??? do you mean JWT??
AznVirus
10-07-2001, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by ty423
JET??? do you mean JWT??
nope, JET is different company that supposedly says their chips "increase" hp but its a pretty much stock chip that doesnt do shit. JWT on the other hand is a brand i would go for. they make good ecus but are hella expensive.
JET??? do you mean JWT??
nope, JET is different company that supposedly says their chips "increase" hp but its a pretty much stock chip that doesnt do shit. JWT on the other hand is a brand i would go for. they make good ecus but are hella expensive.
P10DET
10-07-2001, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by rob99sp
i want to increase hp...I heard it was the best bang for the buck.
If you want best bang for the buck power, get a turbo. If you want best bang for the buck NA power......
1) Header
2) CAI
3) Cams
The cams make more power, but the CAI is 1/3 the cost.
The ECU won't get you a whole lot of power by itself. It's nice because it does improve driveability a lot (at least the JWT ECU) and throttle response.
For even a modestly modified NA engine, I would only expect an ECU to get you about 5-10 hp MAX. Probably closer to 5.
i want to increase hp...I heard it was the best bang for the buck.
If you want best bang for the buck power, get a turbo. If you want best bang for the buck NA power......
1) Header
2) CAI
3) Cams
The cams make more power, but the CAI is 1/3 the cost.
The ECU won't get you a whole lot of power by itself. It's nice because it does improve driveability a lot (at least the JWT ECU) and throttle response.
For even a modestly modified NA engine, I would only expect an ECU to get you about 5-10 hp MAX. Probably closer to 5.
P10DET
10-07-2001, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by AznVirus
nope, JET is different company that supposedly says their chips "increase" hp but its a pretty much stock chip that doesnt do shit. JWT on the other hand is a brand i would go for. they make good ecus but are hella expensive.
They are expensive, but I wouldn't say hella expensive.
Now the JUN ECU..... That I would call hella expensive. When JUN first came here they charged $1k. I don't know what the going rate is now.
nope, JET is different company that supposedly says their chips "increase" hp but its a pretty much stock chip that doesnt do shit. JWT on the other hand is a brand i would go for. they make good ecus but are hella expensive.
They are expensive, but I wouldn't say hella expensive.
Now the JUN ECU..... That I would call hella expensive. When JUN first came here they charged $1k. I don't know what the going rate is now.
ty423
10-07-2001, 07:06 PM
oh ok...never heard of JET....regarding ECU...I recently called JWT and said they can't do any 97+ ECU...only under 97....I guess its the OBDII but I doubt it...I think they cracked it...
P10DET
10-07-2001, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by ty423
oh ok...never heard of JET....regarding ECU...I recently called JWT and said they can't do any 97+ ECU...only under 97....I guess its the OBDII but I doubt it...I think they cracked it...
You shouldn't be spouting off about something you know nothing about.
When Nissan went to OBD-II they changed the ECU archetecture (sp?). JWT has yet to crack the code for most OBD-II ECUs. They can do a OBD-II SE-R ECU up to 96. In 97 the archetecture changed again, and yet again in 2000 (or maybe it was 99).
And I assure you, if JWT cracked the code, they would offer the ECU. Why would you say shit like that?
I just cannot fathom why you would say things like that. You have no basis for it other than deciding in your own head that they decided to lie to you and decide not to sell to a large segment of the performance Nissan market. :rolleyes:
oh ok...never heard of JET....regarding ECU...I recently called JWT and said they can't do any 97+ ECU...only under 97....I guess its the OBDII but I doubt it...I think they cracked it...
You shouldn't be spouting off about something you know nothing about.
When Nissan went to OBD-II they changed the ECU archetecture (sp?). JWT has yet to crack the code for most OBD-II ECUs. They can do a OBD-II SE-R ECU up to 96. In 97 the archetecture changed again, and yet again in 2000 (or maybe it was 99).
And I assure you, if JWT cracked the code, they would offer the ECU. Why would you say shit like that?
I just cannot fathom why you would say things like that. You have no basis for it other than deciding in your own head that they decided to lie to you and decide not to sell to a large segment of the performance Nissan market. :rolleyes:
ty423
10-07-2001, 09:57 PM
P10DET
Do you really think I just got that out of the top of my head????
Check this site and look at the Power Pages site
http://www.importtuner.com/archives/toc/toc1099.jsp
http://www.importtuner.com/archives/toc/toc1299.jsp
These are two issues that import tuner used on my car...
They put a already programmed ECU in my car but it only made 1...yes 1Hp....but also gained 3lbs. of torque. They took it out of my car and put my original one back...What we think is that JWT didn't want to make it public yet until it actually makes good amount of power to market...who is going to buy an ECU for $500 and make only 1Hp/3lbs tqe???
So don't come at me like that...cuz you sound like your some kind of god of Nissan...but I must admit that you are very knowledgable....Don't get me wrong but I do like what you write except this one...
Do you really think I just got that out of the top of my head????
Check this site and look at the Power Pages site
http://www.importtuner.com/archives/toc/toc1099.jsp
http://www.importtuner.com/archives/toc/toc1299.jsp
These are two issues that import tuner used on my car...
They put a already programmed ECU in my car but it only made 1...yes 1Hp....but also gained 3lbs. of torque. They took it out of my car and put my original one back...What we think is that JWT didn't want to make it public yet until it actually makes good amount of power to market...who is going to buy an ECU for $500 and make only 1Hp/3lbs tqe???
So don't come at me like that...cuz you sound like your some kind of god of Nissan...but I must admit that you are very knowledgable....Don't get me wrong but I do like what you write except this one...
ty423
10-07-2001, 10:07 PM
plus JET and JWT...honest mistake...since I never heard of JET I assumed you meant JWT and I never heard a comment about JWT like that....just alittle mix up...
P10DET
10-07-2001, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by ty423
These are two issues that import tuner used on my car...
They put a already programmed ECU in my car but it only made 1...yes 1Hp....but also gained 3lbs. of torque. They took it out of my car and put my original one back...What we think is that JWT didn't want to make it public yet until it actually makes good amount of power to market...who is going to buy an ECU for $500 and make only 1Hp/3lbs tqe???
Well, first of all, I don't have first hand knowledge of what is going on at JWT in this regard, but it's a lot closer than yours I'd wager. Mike Kojima is intimately familiar with JWT R&D since he is involved with quite a bit of it and Mike is a good personal friend who has never lied to me. He has told me they have not cracked the code. They both changed the code and moved it around as well.
Second, once you crack the code, getting power is not and issue. The maps are the maps. If they can get power with one archetecture, they can get it with another. They just have to copy the maps from another ECU. No big deal.
I don't know what the deal is with Import Tuner. Hell, I don't even know if they use good dyno tuning methods. Mike is methodical when dyno tuning so he can get repeatable results. I seriously doubt they had an honest to God JWT ECU. Again, remember that the maps are what makes power and they already have the maps.
These are two issues that import tuner used on my car...
They put a already programmed ECU in my car but it only made 1...yes 1Hp....but also gained 3lbs. of torque. They took it out of my car and put my original one back...What we think is that JWT didn't want to make it public yet until it actually makes good amount of power to market...who is going to buy an ECU for $500 and make only 1Hp/3lbs tqe???
Well, first of all, I don't have first hand knowledge of what is going on at JWT in this regard, but it's a lot closer than yours I'd wager. Mike Kojima is intimately familiar with JWT R&D since he is involved with quite a bit of it and Mike is a good personal friend who has never lied to me. He has told me they have not cracked the code. They both changed the code and moved it around as well.
Second, once you crack the code, getting power is not and issue. The maps are the maps. If they can get power with one archetecture, they can get it with another. They just have to copy the maps from another ECU. No big deal.
I don't know what the deal is with Import Tuner. Hell, I don't even know if they use good dyno tuning methods. Mike is methodical when dyno tuning so he can get repeatable results. I seriously doubt they had an honest to God JWT ECU. Again, remember that the maps are what makes power and they already have the maps.
ty423
10-08-2001, 01:23 AM
Yes, I must agree...to more explain in detail...the ECU was done at JWT by Jim Wolf...I wasn't there to see for myself but my friends at Import Tuner said that Jim Wolf also installed my cams and probably ECU...As for dynoing..I was told it was done at Group5. All this in San Diego area...Maybe they just tried different maps but I don't know what they exactly did with that experimental ECU...I don't even know whose ECU that was...all I know is that they put my original one back in...pretty pissed that they didn't just give it to me...oh well...thanks for the info P10DET...
I also agree that Mike Kojima is extremely good at what he does...
I also agree that Mike Kojima is extremely good at what he does...
G22DET
10-08-2001, 02:26 PM
If you really need your ECU to get remapped...like me...JUN can do it...but yes, it's very expensive. starting at $1350. Reason being, they have to send the ECU to Japan and have master Jun engineer to map it. even for obd2 ecus. Another reason for being so expensive is that you don't have to give them a core...they'll get you a brand new core with JUN programing. If i have the extra money, i would do this.
rob99sp
10-08-2001, 06:51 PM
All I wnna know is *****CAN I CURRENTLTY PURCHASE A CHIP FOR MY 99G20T**** from what I have been hearing I believe not.
dre
10-08-2001, 09:40 PM
rob - from luke's post, it sounds like for 1350$$, (and probvably some time where they will have your ECU, and shipping back and forth etc) that JUN will get it done.
But, for a few hundred bucks more, I think you could get a factory turbo engine.... or your engine with some one elses turbo.
But, for a few hundred bucks more, I think you could get a factory turbo engine.... or your engine with some one elses turbo.
G-Forces
10-08-2001, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by rob99sp
All I wnna know is *****CAN I CURRENTLTY PURCHASE A CHIP FOR MY 99G20T****
NO, and you never will be able to buy a CHIP! Rob, please listen to George and myself on this one. Don't even start to think about an ECU on your car until you get all the basic bolt-ons first. Cams, header, intake, exhaust and pullies. The stock nissan program is pretty good and can handle the extra mods. The ECU is used to 'top it off' and make all those mods work better.
Even if you could get a JWT ECU now you'd have to send it off again to get reprogrammed once you got cams. Not to mention I think it would not be worth the money to put on a totally stock motor, or even one with just the basic I/H/E mods.
All I wnna know is *****CAN I CURRENTLTY PURCHASE A CHIP FOR MY 99G20T****
NO, and you never will be able to buy a CHIP! Rob, please listen to George and myself on this one. Don't even start to think about an ECU on your car until you get all the basic bolt-ons first. Cams, header, intake, exhaust and pullies. The stock nissan program is pretty good and can handle the extra mods. The ECU is used to 'top it off' and make all those mods work better.
Even if you could get a JWT ECU now you'd have to send it off again to get reprogrammed once you got cams. Not to mention I think it would not be worth the money to put on a totally stock motor, or even one with just the basic I/H/E mods.
G22DET
10-08-2001, 10:25 PM
Rob listen to me!!!!!!! and Jason and george...you CAN get a tuned (if you are willing to spend the money) ECU...by JUN..u know, the Nissan super duper master guru???
BUT...if you dont have a turbocharged motor or some super crazy cams...why bother?
BUT...if you dont have a turbocharged motor or some super crazy cams...why bother?
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