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streetracer02
01-19-2003, 10:48 PM
I will be getting a eclipse gsx and i want to put a lot of cash into the engine. I can spend like 5-7 grand and i want to try to make it have near 4-500 horses and go about 160mph can u make a list of mods for me that can do close to this for me thanks. Like i mean name a bunch of performance mod thanks guys and gals peace

fatninja19
01-20-2003, 02:36 AM
What year eclipse?? And how much driving experience do you have? I dont know if I'd recommend a beginner driving 160mph or one with a 4-500 hp AWD car..

R1-rider
01-20-2003, 02:49 AM
5-7 grand? erm, no.

You cant just get a engine to 500hp and expect your car to react well to it. You need to get a list of EVERYTHING required to get your car to that amount of performance, and be able to be driven SAFELY.

Fuel rail (injectors, fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel regulator)
Intake (low restriction air intake, front mount)
Exhaust (no cats, good turbo exhaust system)
Turbo (performance turbo, performance BOV, performance wastegate, relief valve, big intercooler)
Nitrous
Brakes (calipers, rotors, pads, brake lines)
Engine (piston rings, seals, valves, lifters, cams, pistons, gaskets, oil filter)
Electronics (turbo timer, boost controller)
Drivetrain (racing clutch, light flywheel, new axles, lower geared tranny)
Safety (roll cage, fire extinguisher, fuel cell)
Suspension (stiffer struts & shocks, strut tower bars, lightweight 16"rims)

That alone is about 13K in parts alone, not considering install. You cant just put a big turbo on an expect it to work or even be driveable. The only year for gsx i believe was 97. Yea, as ninja said, I dont think I want sombody with no RACING experience to be driving around in a car like that. Go get lessons on how to race on the track.

streetracer02
01-20-2003, 02:50 AM
i want like a 97-99 eclipse and have 2 years expierience and i am not gettin it all at once im working my way up so can u make a list plase thanks...

-The Stig-
01-20-2003, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by R1-rider
The only year for gsx i believe was 97.

They've made a GSX model for every year up untill they changed to the current body style in 2000?

Just like the Talon has a TSi option for every year it was made.

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 03:01 AM
Well in general terms i say reinforce completelly the bottom end and for 500 hp i say everything rods crank pistons and sleves. Of course everything blueprinted and balanced. A new high performance head.


For a turbo i say get a T3/T4 Garrett turbo. new oil and gas pump. New injectors. Stand alone ecu(better than piggyback). You'll probabbly need about 20+ psi out of the turbo for 500hp.

MSD ignition system.

Reinforce the tranny which migh be a problem since is an gsx and therefore AWD. I think i woould recomend a FWD gsr(easier to reinforce the tranny)

New big brakes mucho importante(must stop)cross driled 13-15 in rotors and 4 piston caliper brembos. good suspension. KYb are
excellent with einbach coils.

Well this is some pretty genral stuff. Do you need more specific recomendations?


BTW redneck how can I join the american club. I wanna be badass too.:(

Polygon
01-20-2003, 03:11 AM
Well, I could list all the stuff, but it would be easier for me to refer you to this months issue of Sport Compact Car. They have an awesome artical on building up the 4G63.

streetracer02
01-20-2003, 10:54 AM
please guys cus i dont realy kno too much about mods besides the basics pipe, intake, filter, carb, etc.. what else is there please thanks guys peace

DemonZX
01-20-2003, 12:46 PM
There is no carb on the eclipse. Dude, No offense but if you don't know about it, you shouldn't be driving it.

fatninja19
01-20-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by DemonZX
There is no carb on the eclipse. Dude, No offense but if you don't know about it, you shouldn't be driving it.



WORRRRRD

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by streetracer02
please guys cus i dont realy kno too much about mods besides the basics pipe, intake, filter, carb, etc.. what else is there please thanks guys peace


Well what me and R1 posted.Also as polygon sais buy this month issue of sport compact car. They have a specific article about what you requested.

BeEfCaKe
01-20-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by streetracer02
please guys cus i dont realy kno too much about mods besides the basics pipe, intake, filter, carb, etc.. what else is there please thanks guys peace

You don't need to know much. Just buy a buncha stickers, slap 'em on, and that'll give you at least more 400hp. And of course a fat pipe from MoTeC would make you even more Fast and Furious ;)

Cbass
01-20-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by BeEfCaKe


You don't need to know much. Just buy a buncha stickers, slap 'em on, and that'll give you at least more 400hp. And of course a fat pipe from
MoTeC would make you even more Fast and Furious ;)


Ahaha, tell it like it is, brother ;)

Anyways, Neutrino, I would think you would want the traction of the AWD system, especially when trying to put down more than 400hp... Just my crazy thought I guess... :rolleyes:

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Cbass



Ahaha, tell it like it is, brother ;)

Anyways, Neutrino, I would think you would want the traction of the AWD system, especially when trying to put down more than 400hp... Just my crazy thought I guess... :rolleyes:


I wasn't saying that AWD is bad its actually awesome to have. But it wil snap lilke a twing under 500hp. It needs to be reinforced and its very complicated to reinforce an AWD sys its much easier to reinforce a FWD.

Cbass
01-20-2003, 06:20 PM
It's not that hard, you just have to make sure you've got strong axles and gearsets in your differentials...

Although it would cost a lot more, I wouldn't want to drive a 400hp FWD car, when AWD is an easy option.

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Cbass
It's not that hard, you just have to make sure you've got strong axles and gearsets in your differentials...

Although it would cost a lot more, I wouldn't want to drive a 400hp FWD car, when AWD is an easy option.

I see all the time the problems that vr4's drive train have when upgrading the hp in their cars. And vr4 are designed from the start with high hp.,

Yogs knows best i presume we should ask him.

streetracer02
01-20-2003, 06:57 PM
wat does awd stand for all wheel drive cus i thought the gsx was rear wheel drive cus if it has all wheel d cant u not burn out as good thanbks peace

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by streetracer02
wat does awd stand for all wheel drive cus i thought the gsx was rear wheel drive cus if it has all wheel d cant u not burn out as good thanbks peace

No all eclipses are Front weel drive FWD and only the gsx was All wheel drive AWD. No rwd eclipses.

What you want for RWD burnouts is a 300zx tt. You can get one for 10k. There is a guys selling on this thread:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t82477.html

RACER D12
01-20-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by streetracer02
wat does awd stand for all wheel drive cus i thought the gsx was rear wheel drive cus if it has all wheel d cant u not burn out as good thanbks peace


:uhoh: why do you want to burn out :confused: Not even going to touch that issue:apoke:

-The Stig-
01-20-2003, 07:13 PM
ummmmm?


Yes.. GSX is AWD (All wheel Drive)... meaning all 4 tires have power diverted to them. Thus on launch you have less chance of spinning the wheels and more rubber on the ground to grip.


:jumpie:

Self
01-20-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by streetracer02
wat does awd stand for all wheel drive cus i thought the gsx was rear wheel drive cus if it has all wheel d cant u not burn out as good thanbks peace

Ahhhhhhh, racing is in a sad sad state...:( :(
Anyways, having and AWD system is better one hundred percent of the time. Like someone else mentioned above(forget who) it's not HARDER to upgrade an AWD system for high HP, just more EXPENSIVE. If you have the money, it won't make too much difference rather it's FWD or AWD. Except with the AWD you'll be leaving the competition behind from the start of the race:D

Neutrino
01-20-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Self

. Like someone else mentioned above(forget who) it's not HARDER to upgrade an AWD system for high HP, just more EXPENSIVE. If you have the money, it won't make too much difference rather it's FWD or AWD.

i did not say its imposible and if you don't have the money of course its harder. You can make anything with money.

DemonZX
01-20-2003, 07:51 PM
With money the possibilities are endless! Oh, by the way...can any of you see an avatar or a pic on my sig.? Cause I usually post from work, now I'm at home and my pic's are not showing I think I am a complete moron! Let me know......About the pic's, cause' I already know I am a moron!

Thnks:(

-The Stig-
01-20-2003, 08:03 PM
I see them fine... and no you're not a Moron...

But if you need clarification.. we could possibly post a Poll? :D

DemonZX
01-20-2003, 08:18 PM
Good Idea!:confused:

Cbass
01-20-2003, 10:27 PM
Exactly, just more expensive... and it's not like you can find many tougher AWD components... Except for Audi parts, good ol Germans :D

R1-rider
01-21-2003, 12:00 AM
Either a troll, or a friggin moron.

DemonZX
01-21-2003, 08:00 AM
I'm tall enough to be a troll! 5'6" babY!

Cbass
01-21-2003, 11:27 AM
Wow... I'm 6'3"! I'm going to have to find Terminal Velocity, and cut off his feet or something... I can't stand people who are taller than me! ;)

KrNxRaCer00
01-24-2003, 12:59 PM
haha...im a 5'9 asian guy if it makes u feel better...ooo btw, awd=good. :D

DemonZX
01-24-2003, 01:31 PM
I am an elf!

Neutrino
01-24-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by DemonZX
I am an elf! :huh: OK.....

DemonZX
01-24-2003, 04:50 PM
Yeah man! I am 5'6"! Officially elf sized!:licker:

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