d series and turbo help?!?
white97ex
01-17-2003, 05:23 PM
anyone seen d16y8's post big numbers with turbo? if so what kind of modifications were done and what type of turbo was used. i am trying to decide if i want to turbo my motor, buy a core to rebuild then turbo, or take another route. any insight would be great
SleeperCivic
01-18-2003, 06:55 PM
I do......
civicHBsi91
01-18-2003, 09:47 PM
D series forum (http://pub143.ezboard.com/bhondadseries)
SleeperCivic
01-18-2003, 10:28 PM
white97ex
01-19-2003, 12:14 PM
i've got 142,000 on the odometer right now...after i take care of some things out my income tax and get my bonus i should have around 1500-2000 im looking at turbo D or b18b or b20b for turbo. how safe would a turbo on 150,000 mile d be?
maxspeedhonda
01-19-2003, 04:03 PM
You would be a lot better off and safer to start with a fresher engine or rebuild your current one.
SleeperCivic
01-19-2003, 05:01 PM
I agree. Get a new clutch too, uless you've replaced it lately. Also, if you're making any good power, you're stocker will get eaten up fairly fast if you race a lot.
luti
01-20-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by white97ex
i've got 142,000 on the odometer right now...after i take care of some things out my income tax and get my bonus i should have around 1500-2000 im looking at turbo D or b18b or b20b for turbo. how safe would a turbo on 150,000 mile d be?
About as safe as a blind man driving a school bus full of preschoolers through a mine field. It can be done, but at what cost, and why?
i've got 142,000 on the odometer right now...after i take care of some things out my income tax and get my bonus i should have around 1500-2000 im looking at turbo D or b18b or b20b for turbo. how safe would a turbo on 150,000 mile d be?
About as safe as a blind man driving a school bus full of preschoolers through a mine field. It can be done, but at what cost, and why?
integra818
01-20-2003, 11:41 PM
street, strip, ???
white97ex
01-21-2003, 02:52 PM
mainly street...will see some track time. plan on 5-6 psi daily and a little more for race..
SleeperCivic
01-26-2003, 11:17 AM
That's cool, but I think eventually your mileage will come into play. Might be safe to do a minor rebuild - gaskets, bearings, water pump, oil pump. It's like jumping on the shoulders of your 80 year old grandma - you never know how much she can take and then she dies on you.
white97ex
01-26-2003, 07:48 PM
after talking to one of the car guys i work with. i've decided to pay the car off before i do anything....still owe 5600 gonna try and pay it off by this time next year. and then i'm gonna do a d-series build. gonna get a new block, sleeve it put some rods and pistons in it, a good turbo cam and the boost the heck out of it.....
SleeperCivic
01-27-2003, 10:37 PM
Sounds like a plan brother!
Rgacke
01-28-2003, 12:16 AM
I've seen a fully built d16y8 that was putting out 250-275 hp. But pay off your car first.
white97ex
01-28-2003, 03:45 PM
yeah...definately gonna pay it off first....230 a month comes in handy when stuff breaks. 250-275 whp. awesome...how built was it? what kind of boost was he running? i want big boost....15+ for racing. around 6 for daily driving. any recommendations on turbo, internals and junk. who makes good turbo cams? definately gonna run the hondata 4b......
SleeperCivic
01-28-2003, 06:22 PM
Don't get a Greddy turbo for that kind of boost.....
dirk-diggler
01-28-2003, 09:51 PM
why don't ya checout ma ryde, and yu'll see serious torbo
SleeperCivic
01-28-2003, 11:07 PM
where's the link?
white97ex
01-30-2003, 11:45 AM
i plan on implementing some of energy dynamics (www.theoldone.com) block prepping techniques to help aid oiling and improve rod clearance and such. gonna keep the factory crank. are sleeves a necessity? probably at that kind of boost huh.......gonna go with eagle rods. i'll probably see what endyne has for boost pistons. arp fasteners throughout. that takes care of the bottom end. probably run teh stock head casting for now. i'll scrounge up an old head and practice porting, then i'll do some head porting. gonna upgrade the valve springs, retainers and valves. will upgrade to a turbo cam. any suggestions on manufacturer? and i guess that completes the motor. gonna go with the msd 6AL ignition unit. blaster 2 coil. Nology Hot Wires. and hondata 4b. as for the turbo..........havn't made it that far yet. thinkin ghybrid T3/04 but not sure on the spool up of that turbo. may need to implement a N2O spool up kit. :finger: i'm hoping for 300+ Whp
D[X]P
01-30-2003, 08:59 PM
damn,how can u guys afford all that stuff for boosting up cars + the cars?
anyways can u tell me how much would it cost to boost up a honda civic very good and what stuff i would need to buy?
:( :p :D :smoker2: :smoka: :frog: :bandit: :bloated:
anyways can u tell me how much would it cost to boost up a honda civic very good and what stuff i would need to buy?
:( :p :D :smoker2: :smoka: :frog: :bandit: :bloated:
SleeperCivic
01-30-2003, 09:00 PM
We SAVE!! As for your question about your Civic, a great source of info for that is the Turbo D16 Forum (http://turbod16.no-ip.com/)
ohboy95c
10-10-2003, 12:19 PM
I own a turbo civic and I previously owned one with a d16. I had the block bored at 70,000 miles and put je pistons and crower rods in it. I still have the block know on a pallet but to answer your question it was a fun car to drive but it still wasn't enough for me. Camaro's and mustangs were having their way with me so it had to go. Currently I'm running a B18C5 that's right a B18c5 with a turbo and I'm making sick power. you can really feel the difference between the B and the D. The only problem with the C5 is compression, since its 11.1:1 I have to run race gas with very moderate boost. If your aiming for the 200 hp range though the D is the way to go,you can't beat the price and aftermarket support is great. Mine was reliable but you will want to replace the factory head gasket and use a stud kit (ARP is good) because I blew two of them before I did that and once stretched the head bolts themselves. You'll also want to look at your injectors and fuel supply especially with that many miles on the car. Sorry for the story but on a budget go with the D. Pay your car of first because insuance won't cover what they don't know about and if you have a warranty it's voided with performance mods.
fnkdrspok
10-10-2003, 08:51 PM
I own a turbo civic and I previously owned one with a d16. I had the block bored at 70,000 miles and put je pistons and crower rods in it. I still have the block know on a pallet but to answer your question it was a fun car to drive but it still wasn't enough for me.
Hey, your D series block that's been given the royal treatment!!! Are you selling it? I'm running a D series turbo that spools up hella quick but I want to be able to run more boost on this turbo. The max I can go to is 15 psi. I'm currently running 5 psi on stock internals with the bolt-on modifications done to the outside of the engine. I'm trying to find out the best method to mange my fuel for this car tho since I tend to lean out after 5 psi. I'm thinking DSM 450 cc injectors, resistor hack, with (S,V)AFC. If you have any other better methods, please let me know.
I know this will sound lame but I kinda want to keep trend with the SOHC motor. I was thinking since this DX motor has so many miles on it, just trash it and throw in an EX motor. I can get one for like $400 and that's including the EX ECU. Since this turbo will bolt up with no problems I can run a newer engine, change out a few things, and basically have lower miles on the car. The problem I'm running into now is that my seals around the engine are going, I already changed out the headgasket. Plus I have this GSR engine just sitting waiting for more money to come in so i can get the good stuff but I'm having too much fun with this setup. Just like you stated. It spools up fast and it boogies but the big dudes will still beat you. I can beat NA application imports basically. With better fuel managment I should expect to be up in the higher hp range. Close to 200 hp.
FnkDrSpok
Hey, your D series block that's been given the royal treatment!!! Are you selling it? I'm running a D series turbo that spools up hella quick but I want to be able to run more boost on this turbo. The max I can go to is 15 psi. I'm currently running 5 psi on stock internals with the bolt-on modifications done to the outside of the engine. I'm trying to find out the best method to mange my fuel for this car tho since I tend to lean out after 5 psi. I'm thinking DSM 450 cc injectors, resistor hack, with (S,V)AFC. If you have any other better methods, please let me know.
I know this will sound lame but I kinda want to keep trend with the SOHC motor. I was thinking since this DX motor has so many miles on it, just trash it and throw in an EX motor. I can get one for like $400 and that's including the EX ECU. Since this turbo will bolt up with no problems I can run a newer engine, change out a few things, and basically have lower miles on the car. The problem I'm running into now is that my seals around the engine are going, I already changed out the headgasket. Plus I have this GSR engine just sitting waiting for more money to come in so i can get the good stuff but I'm having too much fun with this setup. Just like you stated. It spools up fast and it boogies but the big dudes will still beat you. I can beat NA application imports basically. With better fuel managment I should expect to be up in the higher hp range. Close to 200 hp.
FnkDrSpok
Mrock
10-10-2003, 11:20 PM
I have a d15b2 (dpfi, ECK!), that I too was considering a build, then turbocharging. I have 165k on my engine. I considered rebuilding it, sleeving, and turbocharging it. I figure "hey, I might not have the most impressive dyno numbers after all that, but it'll be quick".
The CRX is so light, that with 90 hp's you still feel like it's quick. 150hp's feels even quicker..save some $, be a bit different, and go D-series!
Now I will admit I am somewhat biased, because I am beginning my turbo B16 project soon...but you know how it is :lol:
The CRX is so light, that with 90 hp's you still feel like it's quick. 150hp's feels even quicker..save some $, be a bit different, and go D-series!
Now I will admit I am somewhat biased, because I am beginning my turbo B16 project soon...but you know how it is :lol:
45psi
10-13-2003, 09:24 PM
dont call it a night until the manifold is glowing. no mercy on the dseries.
Mrock
10-19-2003, 06:18 PM
dont call it a night until the manifold is glowing. no mercy on the dseries.
Nice! .........
Nice! .........
Kinked210
01-11-2004, 02:10 PM
I'm thinking about saving for a turbo kit for my 93 D16Z6....
I have 148,000 miles on it...and aftermarket I/H/E...and my clutch is gettin pretty ghetto...Oh..and a throwout bearing that gives me that lovely rattling noise just before shifting into 2nd.
What should I do before installing the turbo and what kind of turbo should I look into getting?
What will I have to do with my I/H/E before installing the turbo?
Thanks.
I have 148,000 miles on it...and aftermarket I/H/E...and my clutch is gettin pretty ghetto...Oh..and a throwout bearing that gives me that lovely rattling noise just before shifting into 2nd.
What should I do before installing the turbo and what kind of turbo should I look into getting?
What will I have to do with my I/H/E before installing the turbo?
Thanks.
45psi
01-11-2004, 02:42 PM
Kinked210: always maintain before you bump up horse power. id upgrade or replace the throwout bearing first. if the clutch has some life left, keep it until its dry corpse.(boost baby) On a D series motor, a .42/.48 t3 will work just fine. that will pull hard all the way until redline once it spools. your headers will be replaced by a turbo manifold of your choosing, and the intake will be replaced by the charge pipes from the turbo. if the exhaust diameter is sufficient, leave it the way it is. hope that helped.
oh, and the milage? your car has another 148,000 miles on it before you'll need to rebuild it.
oh, and the milage? your car has another 148,000 miles on it before you'll need to rebuild it.
Kinked210
01-11-2004, 02:51 PM
ok thanks alot...so my headers and intake will be completely removed?
45psi
01-11-2004, 02:55 PM
yeah, Headers as cool as they are will be replaced with the turbo manifold, same with the intake. but trust me, your not going to think twice about it once your turbo spools. you can sell the headers or intake or whatever.
Kinked210
01-11-2004, 03:15 PM
Got any idea on how much the turbo will cost?
DarkKid**EG6
01-11-2004, 07:28 PM
was drive a turbo charged si. its a greddy turbo. i was runing 8 psiboost . able to smoke mustangs and wrx....
45psi
01-12-2004, 02:49 AM
was drive a turbo charged si. its a greddy turbo. i was runing 8 psiboost . able to smoke mustangs and wrx....
thats pretty vauge. "greddy turbo" could be anything. si's could have a d16a6, d16z6, or a b16a depending on year. its all relative to what a turbo could cost kinked. whats your goal, budget, and technicle skills?
thats pretty vauge. "greddy turbo" could be anything. si's could have a d16a6, d16z6, or a b16a depending on year. its all relative to what a turbo could cost kinked. whats your goal, budget, and technicle skills?
Kinked210
01-12-2004, 01:21 PM
I thought all Si's had the B16 engine..when did it have a D16Z6?
45psi
01-13-2004, 02:32 PM
88-91 d16a6
92-95 d16z6
b16a2 and b16a3 for the rest
92-95 d16z6
b16a2 and b16a3 for the rest
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