Pics of my ride
wickedG20
10-04-2001, 08:08 PM
Finally got some pics of ride. (1999 G20t)
Here is the link: Click hear to see it (http://members.cardomain.com/wickedg20)
Please sign the guestbook while you're there :D
Here is the link: Click hear to see it (http://members.cardomain.com/wickedg20)
Please sign the guestbook while you're there :D
NismoG20
10-04-2001, 10:21 PM
phat ride dude...
intresting rims... but i like
nice light... i have the same color neon in my trunk!
intresting rims... but i like
nice light... i have the same color neon in my trunk!
kenchan
10-04-2001, 10:32 PM
good job dude! btw, how did you guys wire up that neon? is that connected so that when you light up the headlights it comes on, or is it a separate unit? did you pull the wiring from the fuse box or the cigarette liter? very cool, wanna do that too. :D
AznVirus
10-05-2001, 01:06 AM
nice ride, for the stillen front bumper, did you just cut the old one and mold on the stillen? how does that work?
good job dude! btw, how did you guys wire up that neon? is that connected so that when you light up the headlights it comes on, or is it a separate unit? did you pull the wiring from the fuse box or the cigarette liter? very cool, wanna do that too.
wiring is not that hard to do, i just learned recently :D just wiring it straight from your battery.
good job dude! btw, how did you guys wire up that neon? is that connected so that when you light up the headlights it comes on, or is it a separate unit? did you pull the wiring from the fuse box or the cigarette liter? very cool, wanna do that too.
wiring is not that hard to do, i just learned recently :D just wiring it straight from your battery.
wickedG20
10-05-2001, 02:09 AM
no it just fits right over your stock bumper. the whole bumper is pre-made for a perfect fit.
About the neons, It's not to hard to too. I will post up full instructions when I get a chance.
About the neons, It's not to hard to too. I will post up full instructions when I get a chance.
kenchan
10-05-2001, 02:57 AM
cool! looking forward to those instructions when you get a chance. :D
man, was thinking wat mod I should do next...dat would be very cool.
man, was thinking wat mod I should do next...dat would be very cool.
primera man
10-05-2001, 05:49 AM
Car is looking sweet dude !!!
DVSNCYNIKL
10-05-2001, 08:27 AM
Very nice. Compliments to the owner.
Sm00th G2o
10-05-2001, 01:11 PM
You shoudn't wire straight from ur bat. You could melt ur stuff. I would go from fuse box. You can buy little things at autozone that plug right into it.
AznVirus
10-05-2001, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Sm00th G2o
You shoudn't wire straight from ur bat. You could melt ur stuff. I would go from fuse box. You can buy little things at autozone that plug right into it.
i meant putting an inline fuse to wire it. ya wiring straight from the battery without a fuse somewhere is dangerous. inline fuse is the way to go, but make sure you put it within 6 inches after the battery.
You shoudn't wire straight from ur bat. You could melt ur stuff. I would go from fuse box. You can buy little things at autozone that plug right into it.
i meant putting an inline fuse to wire it. ya wiring straight from the battery without a fuse somewhere is dangerous. inline fuse is the way to go, but make sure you put it within 6 inches after the battery.
kenchan
10-05-2001, 05:03 PM
im thinking about running the wires from the fusebox (driver side, not engine bay) since dont wanna mess with running stuff through the firewall. in this case, from which fuse should I tap it to? and how much amps do I need for this neon?
thanxa bunch. :p
thanxa bunch. :p
Sm00th G2o
10-05-2001, 11:46 PM
Why within 6in from battery?????
kenchan
10-06-2001, 12:14 AM
humm...maybe so dat if you fry the line, it would only be 6in? :confused: :confused: :confused: naw... cant be.
AznVirus
10-06-2001, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by kenchan
humm...maybe so dat if you fry the line, it would only be 6in? :confused: :confused: :confused: naw... cant be.
your exactly right :D
if you blow the fuse, you dont want that surge of energy to go anywhere near the neons or whatever your sending power to.
humm...maybe so dat if you fry the line, it would only be 6in? :confused: :confused: :confused: naw... cant be.
your exactly right :D
if you blow the fuse, you dont want that surge of energy to go anywhere near the neons or whatever your sending power to.
Anthony
10-06-2001, 09:35 AM
You want the fuse to be as close to the battery as possible in order to reduce the possibilty of short circuiting the battery and causing an explosion/fire as a result.
Without the fuse, if you wore through the +12v cable insulation and it touched something on the car chassis (or something that is earthed to it such as the engine block), you would basically be short circuiting the car battery with dire concequences!
With a fuse there, as soon as the short occurs, the fuse will blow rather than shorting out the battery.
Without the fuse, if you wore through the +12v cable insulation and it touched something on the car chassis (or something that is earthed to it such as the engine block), you would basically be short circuiting the car battery with dire concequences!
With a fuse there, as soon as the short occurs, the fuse will blow rather than shorting out the battery.
T4 Primera
10-06-2001, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by kenchan
im thinking about running the wires from the fusebox (driver side, not engine bay) since dont wanna mess with running stuff through the firewall. in this case, from which fuse should I tap it to? and how much amps do I need for this neon?
thanxa bunch. :p Pick a fuse that works in the key position you want the neon to work in. Say something that works with the key in the ACC position like the cigarette lighter etc. Tap into the busbar side (supply) of it with an in-line fuse right there so you protect all of the circuit. If you're lucky there might even be a blank space on that busbar to use with a normal fuse.
To work out your fuse size you need to know the power requirement of the neon and how many you are going to use. You should wire the neons in parallel and make sure you use a supply wire thick enough to ensure you don't get a significant voltage drop over the length of it. Now for the math:( (well, you asked the question)
Amps = Power or Watts/Voltage
e.g if your 12V neon is rated at 1W then
the current (amps) it will draw = 1W/12V =1/12 of an amp = 83mA.
Next you work out the resistance of the neon:
Resistance (ohms) = Voltage/Current (amps) therefore the resistance of one neon
Resistance (ohms) = 12V/0.083A = 144 ohms
When you wire them in parallel (say 5 neons) then the resistance for the complete circuit (RC) is like this:
1/RC = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 + 1/R4 + 1/R5
or alternatively if all neons are the same rating
1/RC = Number of neons X (1/resistance of 1 neon)
So using the example values above, for 5 neons rated at 1W and wired in parallel, the current for the complete circuit is like this
1/RC = 5 X (1/144ohms)
= 5/144ohms
= 0.03472222222222 ohms, therefore,
RC = 1/0.03472222222222 ohms
= 28.8 ohms Note the resistance of the total circuit is less than for just 1 neon because, when you wire them in parallel, the current now has 5 paths to flow through instead of 1.
So the resistance of the total circuit is 28.8 Ohms. We can now work out the current for the complete circuit using
Current (Amps) = Voltage/Resistance
= 12V/28.8A
= 0.4166666666667 amps
Now we'll double check that the easy way like this:
For 5 neons in parallel, the total circuit current (A total):
(A total) = 5 X 0.083A
= 0.415 amps which is near enough.
so a 1/2 amp fuse would do to protect the circuit from overcurrent if something should short out. Remember, smaller is more protection not bigger but too small and you'll keep blowing fuses. You'll also have to ensure that the circuit feeding the busbar you tap into has enough capacity to run all circuits fed by that busbar. If all your accesories stop working and the fuses are ok then it will have blown a fuse or fusible link that feeds that busbar.
The figures I'm using are just arbitrary to step through the theory as I have no idea what wattage the neons are. Any questions? If you have trouble following the above just tell me what you want to do and I'll have a look at it. Funny the stuff you remember, eh...... now if only I could remember my name again...... :p :p
im thinking about running the wires from the fusebox (driver side, not engine bay) since dont wanna mess with running stuff through the firewall. in this case, from which fuse should I tap it to? and how much amps do I need for this neon?
thanxa bunch. :p Pick a fuse that works in the key position you want the neon to work in. Say something that works with the key in the ACC position like the cigarette lighter etc. Tap into the busbar side (supply) of it with an in-line fuse right there so you protect all of the circuit. If you're lucky there might even be a blank space on that busbar to use with a normal fuse.
To work out your fuse size you need to know the power requirement of the neon and how many you are going to use. You should wire the neons in parallel and make sure you use a supply wire thick enough to ensure you don't get a significant voltage drop over the length of it. Now for the math:( (well, you asked the question)
Amps = Power or Watts/Voltage
e.g if your 12V neon is rated at 1W then
the current (amps) it will draw = 1W/12V =1/12 of an amp = 83mA.
Next you work out the resistance of the neon:
Resistance (ohms) = Voltage/Current (amps) therefore the resistance of one neon
Resistance (ohms) = 12V/0.083A = 144 ohms
When you wire them in parallel (say 5 neons) then the resistance for the complete circuit (RC) is like this:
1/RC = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 + 1/R4 + 1/R5
or alternatively if all neons are the same rating
1/RC = Number of neons X (1/resistance of 1 neon)
So using the example values above, for 5 neons rated at 1W and wired in parallel, the current for the complete circuit is like this
1/RC = 5 X (1/144ohms)
= 5/144ohms
= 0.03472222222222 ohms, therefore,
RC = 1/0.03472222222222 ohms
= 28.8 ohms Note the resistance of the total circuit is less than for just 1 neon because, when you wire them in parallel, the current now has 5 paths to flow through instead of 1.
So the resistance of the total circuit is 28.8 Ohms. We can now work out the current for the complete circuit using
Current (Amps) = Voltage/Resistance
= 12V/28.8A
= 0.4166666666667 amps
Now we'll double check that the easy way like this:
For 5 neons in parallel, the total circuit current (A total):
(A total) = 5 X 0.083A
= 0.415 amps which is near enough.
so a 1/2 amp fuse would do to protect the circuit from overcurrent if something should short out. Remember, smaller is more protection not bigger but too small and you'll keep blowing fuses. You'll also have to ensure that the circuit feeding the busbar you tap into has enough capacity to run all circuits fed by that busbar. If all your accesories stop working and the fuses are ok then it will have blown a fuse or fusible link that feeds that busbar.
The figures I'm using are just arbitrary to step through the theory as I have no idea what wattage the neons are. Any questions? If you have trouble following the above just tell me what you want to do and I'll have a look at it. Funny the stuff you remember, eh...... now if only I could remember my name again...... :p :p
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