Chevy small-block 305?

I was wondering what you guys thought about a certain engine. The engine is a small-block Chevy 305. All I hear is how powerful and small these engines are. Alot of street rodders use them for there rods 'cause they are the only ones that fit, and still have power. I am all Ford, but I hear this is an awesome engine, so I just wanted a few other opinions or experiences with or about this engine. I am not sure of HP #'s or torque, so if someone could fill me in on this it would be great help.

Thanks

I personaly think the 305 in a junk motor, now if it were a 350 thats a different story. Are you thinking of putting a 305 in your 68? Why not stay with a 302, its a damn good motor!

The 302 DZ is a 'badass' motor, at least the chevy guys continue to say; but the Ford 302 has the biggest aftermarket and probably the safest bet.

The chevy 305 smallblock was one of GM's mistakes that motor was really bad, the Ford 302 is a superior engine the 305 has a really long stroke and a small bore so it takes the engine forever to wind up and get any power, whereas with the 302 it has a shorter stroke and a bigger bore so it winds up really quick and builds good power fast. Right now I am driving a 1977 mustang with a 2.8 v6 in it stock, I raced a guy I knew he was in his 83 firebird transam with a 305 v8 with headers custom y-pipe flowmasters, and the car had crossfire throttlebodies, and I beat the guy, not by much but I still beat him, the 305 was a really bad engine.

Well.... Thanks for the information. No wonder it was so cheap, lol.

Would it be a great deal if I rebuilt it for around $500 and sold it for about $1000. Is this a steal for me, or am I not going to get this much?

305 TPI - teh geigh. Some people build em up, some don't like to. But rebuild it and sell it if you want. Best bets are on the 302.

So do you think it would be worth using in anything if i rebuilt it, and put new heads on it, and carb. Would it be worth keeping for an experimental car?

Don't rebuild it and sell it you won't find anyone to buy it you can put new heads, cam, and intake on it and it still will not perform well, it's like I said it has a small bore and a long stroke, they build power VERY slowly, that engine was built in the 80's for economy not for power it is not a performance engine, if you ask any knowlegdgeable f-body or chevy guy they will tell you that it wasn't a good motor, most people who had them in their cars swapped them for 350's the 350 is a far superior motor so is the Ford 302.

I'm a 302 guy, but 305's arnt that bad when there around 7,000rpms. I mean brand new (2,000miles), there decent in power. But start putting miles on it and...well....let's just say it would be a close race w/ my mom's 2.2L 4WD truck.

hate on all ford, even the mustang
i hate all ford except for the mustang looks, if i had the money i would put a chevy 350 in it,
a chevy 350 imo is the best damn strongest motor ever, u can get these things into the 9's very easily, and they are extreamly simple and cheap cheap cheap!!!!
ever notice why everything is chevy when u goto a performance store? cause chevy dominates the racing world

by the way
a 305 is a very good motor, EXCEPT when they get into high milage, after that they are junk
a 305 is the exact same blueprint as a 350 its just scaled down a touch
305 for the size of the engine has sweet torque, my friends s-10 Jimmy rwith a 305 runs high 13's all stock except for an upgaded cam and carb

rear end and everything else is stock
this truck flies man

I knew they didn't do well in high mileage, and this is because of their cam. It wears down more than usual engines over time, they are notorious for it. 350 cams don't do this though, so i was planning on putting a 350 cam in the 305 with a 4 barrel carb and headers.(besides the full rebuild i am doing right now). I am using this engine becuase a 350 will not fit in a street rod as I am planning to build. Maybe you guys will understand why I am considering this now, no room in the bay! I also plan of a full port and polish, had the heads redone already. Thank for your replies, if you have any other performance suggestions, please reply.

build a stroker 305 it comes to a 334cu.

Sounds Good!

A 305 will fit where a 350 doesn't? Hmmmm you may want to rethink that 1.
Next a Ford 302 is actually physically smaller than a 305. So why do most street rodders use 305's... Well most don't, most use 350's. But then why a 350... because a carbed GM can be built for less than a Ford.
Also why would a cam for a 305 not last as long as one for a 350 assuming both are flat tappet cams or both are roller cams?

I don't know, calm down. I was just told that the 305 would be a better choice for my '48 Ford Pickup rod buildup. I didn't ask questions, I just took their advice, because they are they know what they are doing. Sorry if this post somehow offended you guys as it seems.

305 and a 350 are the EXACT same blueprint, if u can fit a 305 u can fit a 350 bottom line, the water pump on a 350 is bigger thats it, physically u cannot tell the difference between the two

I know, GTStang has already stated this. Also, as I previously said, I don't know why they suggested the 305, but they did, so I will take their advice.

I don't know, calm down. I was just told that the 305 would be a better choice for my '48 Ford Pickup rod buildup. I didn't ask questions, I just took their advice, because they are they know what they are doing. Sorry if this post somehow offended you guys as it seems.

I'm not offeneded at all actually. But these guys have told u a 305 will fit where a 350 won't. Some crazyness about cams and other things. Why in gods name would you listen to them? They obviously have no clue what they are taking about. Like stated before a 305 and 350 blocks are the exact same physicaly size. I could care less what you use for a motor but I will reccomend you not take advice from those people.
I wouldn't build the 305 and expect to get much for it. Most Chevys guys if they are gonna swap a motor are going for a 35o cause it's similiar in price.

chevy= cheap cheap cheap!!!!
right now Wally Clark
(he came second at the canadian drag nationals)
has his car stored across the streey from me, all he has is a 350 chevy and it puts out 300HP he runs 9.87 in the 1/4 mile
keep in mind this is a state of the art motor, he has no distribtor and everything,
but just to show u chevy rules, 300HP 9.87 1/4 Mile get that from a ford? pretty tough to

chevy= cheap cheap cheap!!!!
right now Wally Clark
(he came second at the canadian drag nationals)
has his car stored across the streey from me, all he has is a 350 chevy and it puts out 300HP he runs 9.87 in the 1/4 mile
keep in mind this is a state of the art motor, he has no distribtor and everything,
but just to show u chevy rules, 300HP 9.87 1/4 Mile get that from a ford? pretty tough to

300 HP and he's running 9.87's, lol. He's feeding you BS with a spoon.

yeah umm why dont u check the canadian national stats?

this engine is like the model for everythings thats advanced
he dosent even a distibutor, its a tubular chassis with a pontiac grand prix shell, huge tubs and rear wheel drive the car is just mean as hell, ill get sum pics when he stores it tommorow
its not street legal its strictly a drag car

Sorry if I am seeming like a newb to you guys. It is my father that owns the 68 Stang, and he was using this site as a resource during our restoration. He doesn't use it anymore, and I have found a liking to the site, and was asking about the 305 becuase I currently have one. It was given to me, and I am tearing it apart right now(just got finished pulling the pistons about 10 mins ago). I am in LOVE with '48 Ford Pickups and am looking right now for a fairly cheap one. The '85 305 isn't actually the engine I was planning to use, but a '69 Pontiac 307 with 9.0:1 compression. With an extreme budget I was trying to feel you guys out to see if you though I could build it up decent since I can't affor to buy a 302 or 350. Also, as I stated earlier sorry if I came across as a newb, because I am only 14...

if your on a tight budjet do not go pontiac,
my trans am engine was a bitch to build and almost double the cost of a chevy
i spent 5,500 on the engine (a 355) and a chevy with the same quality and power would have been about 2000

chevy has enless amounts of aftermarket parts
while pontaic's only have a few to choose from
that was a major down fall on my pontiac
ie: i had 3 types of pistons to choose from
stock, shit pistons and drag pistons
i went with the drag pistons which cost me about 1100 bucks
that type of piston for a chevy would have cost about 400

just an example of cost to quality ratio

68 Stang, this IS the ford mustang part of automotive forums, if you want REAL helpful advice, try the chevrolet camaro part of automotive forum. HALF the people in this forum dont know a damn thing about chevrolet engines, then again half do. So if anyone replies to this w/ a smart ass comment, then we'll know your the one that doesnt know anything.

i know jack shit about ford, i hate ford except for the mustang
and even that i hate the performance, i just like the looks,
only reason why i bought a ford was because i got wicked good deal on a stang.

im a GM guy all the way i can rip and re-build any GM product, i guess it helps working in a all Chevy performance shop too
lol i just park my car out back instead on in front now

I've been following this thread for awhile, wonderin' when someone would remind others that this is the Ford>Mustang forum. Don't mind other makes, but when they come in here talkin' smack 'bout the Blue Oval boys - it's time they move along to their own forum. Just my opinion.....as I am a Newbie also.

i know jack shit about ford, i hate ford except for the mustang
and even that i hate the performance, i just like the looks,
only reason why i bought a ford was because i got wicked good deal on a stang.
I'll have to agree w/ you on the performance part....on a stock mustang. the little 302 has got potential (I know from my stepdad's mustangs). Also there are all kinds of aftermarket parts for them, but hey, to each his own.

chevy= cheap cheap cheap!!!!
right now Wally Clark
(he came second at the canadian drag nationals)
has his car stored across the streey from me, all he has is a 350 chevy and it puts out 300HP he runs 9.87 in the 1/4 mile
keep in mind this is a state of the art motor, he has no distribtor and everything,
but just to show u chevy rules, 300HP 9.87 1/4 Mile get that from a ford? pretty tough to

i'm sure the reason he ran such a good time with that much hp is because of the weight of the car not because of how advanced the motor was look at the chevy LS1 it has 320hp and it doesn't run 9's if u strap a 300hp ford 302 to a 200lb go cart i'm sure you could get better than 9.87, and the fact that this guy's car doesn't have a distributor seems to amaze you for some reason, why don't u look at the ford 4.6L V8 it doesn't use a distribtor either and they have been putting those in mustangs since 96 and think they even started to put them in Thunderbirds earlier than that, it's not really that advanced of an idea.

im just stating that its a very complexed engine, if u looked at the thing u would say it would never run, but it runs, yes the car is extreamly light also, it also has to do with his set up, huge tubs in the back and the car is light as hell to begin with

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks
Wow, Mr. negative aren't we? I think the current 4.6L has come a long way, and have proven it's self rather well.

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks

And you're basing this opinion on ..............what? the 4.6 is a great engine it runs smooth there is very little vibration it runs smoothly at higher RPM's it has the OHC setup which IMO makes an engine last longer due to the fact that there is less friction, it gets good gas mileage, the musang GT gets 18-21 MPG around town, depending on how u drive it and 26-28 on the highway and that's good for 260hp and 300lb-ft of tq, y don't u tell us why the 4.6 sux.

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks :loser: :slap: :bs:


[QUOTE]And you're basing this opinion on ..............what? the 4.6 is a great engine it runs smooth there is very little vibration it runs smoothly at higher RPM's it has the OHC setup which IMO makes an engine last longer due to the fact that there is less friction, it gets good gas mileage, the musang GT gets 18-21 MPG around town, depending on how u drive it and 26-28 on the highway and that's good for 260hp and 300lb-ft of tq, y don't u tell us why the 4.6 sux.

:bigthumb: :ylsuper:

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks
your so retarded. you remind me of thoses ricers who drive civics or civic wanabie's and then they say 'o honda is shit!' stfu.

know jack shit about ford, i hate ford except for the mustang
and even that i hate the performance, i just like the looks,
only reason why i bought a ford was because i got wicked good deal on a stang.

WHO THE FUCK BUYS A STANG FOR LOOKS? you deserve a bitch slap and now, your a gay ass ricer in my book. only ricers buy a car for looks. i bet the only reason you park in the back of that shop is b/c your huge, gay ass wing blocks the damn view of the fucking shop. anyone who buys a car and bags on it is retarded. fuck it. if u bag on a car, your gay, unless you actually have a good reason to.

btw ford 4.6 motors are a waste of time there shit shit shit
biggest mistake ford ever made was taking the 5.0 out of the stang
ford all around sucks

LOL. you dont even know wtf your talking about. i dont know much about this engine, and yes, i would rather a 5.0 in a stang if i ever get one, but lets look @ how much power both engines put out.

the 5.0 in the 93 cobra r put out 235 hp. in 95, the last year of the 5.0 in stangs, the same engine put out 240.
in 96, the 4.6 in the cobra put out 300 hp
and today, that same 4.6 that 'sux ass' puts out 390 hp.
back in the day, the early 80's that 'great' 5.0 put out 115 hp.

my point is this. it might be true that the 5.0 kicks ass. but the 4.6 kicks ass as well. the 5.0 is built up more b/c its been out longer than the 4.6. preformance parts might me hard to find or might not be as abundant for newer engines. it problably is possible to get 3,000,000 hp out of the engine, but who knows. i like that engine, but i like the 5.0 more b/c its in my favorite body style (the fox body)

ohh, and :thefinger :thefinger :flipa: :flipa: :gay: :gay: :twak:
fuck off faggot b/c your a :newbie:
your ass just got :owned:

wow mabey did u ever think i needed a winter beater because my trans am cant be driven in the winter?
hows that one on ya eh?
as for ricer wanna be? well im not going to even comment on that, both my parents work at GM and i will not touch import, do u see me puttin a fuckin reactive muffler on my car no?
and i have a saleen wing on my notch back, can u tell me how that relates to a import?
i think u better shut the fuck up buddy come here and bitch slap me u fucker, ull probally show up in a civic anyway

8104 alpine dr
niagara falls ontario

u say yer gonna bitch slap me so do it then
put your money where your mouth is
output horsepower dosent mean shit
what can it do at the track huh? fuck all
camaro's kill it
no mustang will beat an Ls1
and my reason for making fun of my car is it is a ford, it puts out 90Hp and i did burn outs and the tranny blew, what a shit box, my trans am i pound the fuck out of it and it keeps commin back for more

show me an engine that can put out 3,000,000 Hp on a stang???
im gonna have to say BULLSHIT

the mustang is supposed to be a MUSCLE CAR!!!
who in their right minds brags about their gas milage in their street car???
who ever says hey man check out my sick 4.6L its hardly classifies as a v8 but its fuckin phat isnt it???
fuck GM makes a sick 4.3L V6 that thing hauls some serious ass
if your going to build a muscle car, i will give the mustang some credit for a 5.0L because its so light but a 5.0L in any chevy is a joke, 350's or bigger is the bare minimum for braggin and performance standards

u go have your fun with a 4.6L and just tryin to race a 454 camaro or a camaro with an Ls1 for that matter, let me know how u make out

Ittheppl,fuck GM makes a sick 4.3L V6 that thing hauls some serious ass They do? what does it come in? ohh gee.... what do they put it in? Haha its a truck motor...Dipshit...ive seen quite a few 4.6's outrun your ls1.... the mustang is supposed to be a MUSCLE CAR!!! It was the First actual raced muscle car...64 and a half it first appered...GEe your famed camaro didnt appear until early 67.....hmm....yeah I give chevy props for the motors they derived in the past. The 327...one of the best chevy motors .....Can be built to rev very high....and many other things. The 350 of course. the 396 bb the 400 sb isnt to bad of a motor. The all notorius 427. And last but not least the 454. Notorius. 350's or bigger is the bare minimum for braggin and performance standards Back to the 327.....right bare minimum? My friend travis in maryland has a mildly built 331...if you didnt know...thats a 327 bored.30 over. He runs 11.60's.....350's are great. big deal...Have you ever seen a 454 camaro? Haha maybe. I have seen one. 67 rs that was it.It was also original from what I believe.who in their right minds brags about their gas milage in their street car??? Ppl with honduh's... :rofl: no mustang will beat an Ls1 Maybe if you mean stock for stock. Camaro or trans am vs mustang ... 03 corbra.Although not a zo6. Now if you mean modded I could think of about maybe 4 or 5 ppl here on af alone that could beat a ls1....Granted modded they are no laughing matter either....We could get into it all day long(stang vs the cameo) Think before you speak. :thefinger ohh and there is your bitch slap BITCH :biggrin2: Ohh yes and I forgot to mention the all notorious very rare CHEVROLET 302. was capable of reving to almost 7 grand before the valves would begin to float.

"wow mabey did u ever think i needed a winter beater because my trans am cant be driven in the winter?
hows that one on ya eh?"

LOL thats bullshit. if you wanted a beater car, you would have done like everyone else and get a pos geo. you cant 'get a great deal' on a mustang and expect it to be in running condition.
plus i know your lying. why the fuck would you put a saleen wing on your 'beater'? according to one of the advertisments on the 2nd to last issue of mm&ff, that wing should cost $150-200(us money) bucks. hey idiot, heres a little tip: you dont spend money on beater cars.

"output horsepower dosent mean shit
what can it do at the track huh? fuck all
camaro's kill it"

yeah, i agree. holy shit, he said something smart!! +2 on your IQ!! now your @ 10! no shit hp isnt everything. tell me, why did the 90 mustang beat the shit out of the camero, even though the camero had 50 hp more? yeah, b/c hp doesnt mean shit when the engine is in a car. i was making a point about the engines, come on, keep up. guess what the point was? the 95 5.0 would not be able to keep up w/ the 96 stang. thats the point.

"show me an engine that can put out 3,000,000 Hp on a stang???
im gonna have to say BULLSHIT"

there is no engine that can put out 3,000,000, hp dumb ass. i was making an exagerated point.

OHHH i must have missed that b/c i am so slow. poison ivey, please break it down for me, b/c my brain doesnt move that fast.

the point was, that the engine might be able to put out lots of hp, maybe even more than the 5.0 i dont know the most any1 has gotten out of it.

"the mustang is supposed to be a MUSCLE CAR!!!"

ya fucking right it is! how many muscle cars are there today? how many has survived year after year? how many muscle cars will be celebrating 40 years next year? how many mucle cars does GM make for he 2003 year? AAAWWW.
it looks like the mustang is an orignal
the 1 and ONLY bitch
GTO? it died yeah, its coming back, and i wanna see that, but it died in the 70's aaawwww how sad
2003 camero? where? o wait, it doesnt exist. damn, that sux.

"8104 alpine dr
niagara falls ontario"

right, thats your real adress. give me your phone number so i can check.
o annd FYI, i live in houston, TX, just incase the profile wasnt enough for you to see that. seeing that i am 17, in school, and dont own a car b/c i dont have a licence, and seeing that i wont be getting either till december... yeah. i wont hold my breath if i were you.

o and FYI, how many L your car has doesnt mean shit. think about it. how the fuck do honduh owners get 300 hp (thats 'a shit load!' to them) out of a 1.6L 4 banger? just because the 5.7L is bigger doesnt mean ne thing, it might have more hp out the box, but guess what?

it means shit.
plus, you try to make that arguement like the 351 isnt a ford 5.8L.
damn, i think the only reason you breath, eat and shit is b/c your dads condom broke...

All right people enough is enough! This name calling and BS has gone on farther then needed!:nono: If you guys want to continue arguing like kids, then keep it to PM's!
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