New 2004 Wrx Sti Is Awesome!!!!!!

The new WRX Sti is awesome!!!!! The North American model has a 2.5 turbocharged engine with 300 HP and 300 ft pound of torque. It also has lots of goodies added to it :sun:

Does anyone know how much this would cost?

they're supposed to be under 30k... with dealer markup though... look out...

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more pics from tokyo auto salon...

I just don't get it. Why change the Impreza body style so drastically when the WRX style debuted only a few years ago. Yes, this is a very nice car, but why go and change such a good thing???

Don't they always come out with new versions like the Lancer Evolution?? The Lancer Evolution VII came out not that long ago and they already have a VIII

I'll be gettin' one soon enough... :-)

My dealer is charging $3500 over MSRP (whatever msrp ends up being). I'm hoping to pay close to $35k after taxes, etc.

Are you sure about that price???

Originally posted by supafast
Are you sure about that price???

No, and neither are the dealers. Figure a mildly equipped WRX is about $29k after tax/title/etc though. MSRP of an STi might be under $30k, but that doesn't mean you'll pay anywhere near that price.

Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN
I just don't get it. Why change the Impreza body style so drastically when the WRX style debuted only a few years ago. Yes, this is a very nice car, but why go and change such a good thing???

Because ol' bug eyes was just plain ugly.

Hope they fixed the big black hole below 4000rpm as well....

Those bug eyes were NOT ugly at all. They were a very popular and attractive style. The new ones are nice and will be popular, but I don't like them nearly as much.

I'd like to see how this think matches up to a Z. I think either way I'll be going for the Z, but I just wanna see.

Went to the show couple nights ago and thought people might want to see some other pics of this bad boy.
They are huge, I left them that big so you can see all the detials.


Back (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20009.jpg)
Front head light (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20011.jpg)
Wing (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20012.jpg)
Stats (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20013.jpg)
Open hood (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20014.jpg)
Rear undercarage (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20015.jpg) pipe (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20016.jpg)
front (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20007.jpg)

nice pics... No water spray on the IC?!?!

Originally posted by UncleMeat777
nice pics... No water spray on the IC?!?!

Actualy it does, its a manual sprayer.
If you look its one of the black small hoses runing to the hood scoop.

Nice pics, Boomer. I am going to miss the old WRX design, but this one is very nice.

Originally posted by Whitebread
I'd like to see how this think matches up to a Z. I think either way I'll be going for the Z, but I just wanna see.

also got some pics of the 350z too....

Front (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20019.jpg)
Bad interior pic (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20020.jpg)
Back (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20021.jpg)
Engine (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20022.jpg)

I'm talkin' about performance.

STi will probably beat the Z in all areas. Straight line it should be around high 12's... and it will kill any new car in the turns.

O well, I'm partial to NA engines anyway:D. I'll still probably end up with a 350Z, I mean there's nothing money can't fix. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Z's engine has more potential for HP.

that may be possible but still it wont be able to match the 4WD turbo combo of the WRX and what do you people think of the HKS GT3037 turbo under that hood with that power would be mad

O well, it don't matter, I'll still be happy with my 350Z:D

The 350z is a nice car, BUT!! it will never match up to the STI.....NEVER!!!

If I can get enoughmoney for my trade in on my 2002 WRX I will be the owner of a new sti.



PEACE

Originally posted by Super Spec V
The 350z is a nice car, BUT!! it will never match up to the STI.....NEVER!!!

If I can get enoughmoney for my trade in on my 2002 WRX I will be the owner of a new sti.



PEACE

Don't waste your time trading it. I went to trade my '03 with 7k on it... they were offering $17,500. Planning on selling it for $21,500 as soon as it's warm enough to ride my bike.

O well, guss I'l have to avoid STis whenever possible. Also, are they gonna make a coupe STi?

Originally posted by Whitebread
O well, guss I'l have to avoid STis whenever possible. Also, are they gonna make a coupe STi?

Never gonna make an Imprezza coupe period. Whole basis of the car is it's a sedan. :-)

BTW - what color is yer Z?

Ok, no coupe STi.

I don't have a Z as yet. It's in the works, I need to earn a little more money (5 thousand, parents may pick it up) and get my lisence, which will come REAL soon:D

Yeesh... you're just about 16 huh? Mighty lucky to be getting a fine machine like that right off the bat. I'd have certainly traded my '92 Saturn for one of them. Hehe... enjoy that beast when you get it. I'm quite fond of my buddy's Z.

Uncle, I just found out about the R35 GT-R. THAT ISA FINE MACHINE, and it'll make the STi look stupid as well (no offence). Anyway, I'm rethinking this, I think I'll save the money for the GT-R and just take my parents Maxima (it's an 02, I'll get it for free). I figure I could afford the GT-R by college, maybe a little later. And yeah, I'm just about 16, turning in a few months.

Does anyone know if the regular impreza will be recieving the same facelift as the wrx and sti?

No official word yet.

http://impreza.subaru.com

Is the STi designed for on of off road operation?

Highly doubt it... 99.9% of US vehicles are not intended to ever leave pavement. Only excpetions I can think of are Hummers and Land Rovers (I think Land Rovers).

Ok, thanks.

what's your deal? you just said your 16, but in this thread
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t81008.html
you say you're 14...

able to afford a gt-r by college?

those are about 80k US if you can get one...

for an r34...

if you go older, they're still about 50k.

www.motorex.net

all sube's are designed for off road usage...

the wrx and sti are based on rally cars, which, of course... go off road...

the suspension on the wrx and the upcoming wrx sti are both capable of off roading, not necessarily like a truck... but off road

only off road vehicles in the US are hummer and land rover?

hummer (humvee's, the h1) are it... the h2 is a rebodied suburban.

the off road capability of alot of US built trucks and suv's is at least that of the land rover and h2.

what about the 4wd trucks from chevy/ford/dodge... or jeep?
hmm..

Open your owners manual much? WRX says it's NOT INTENDED FOR OFFROAD USE. So does about every SUV. Not only will driving offroad (if it can be proven) void your warranty 9 times out of 10, but it will wear your suspension out in a heartbeat. Guess you never wondered why world rally cars rebuild almost the entire vehicle after EVERY race. :-/

Yeah Imprezas are modelled after rally cars... that doesn't mean something any schmoe can go buy for $25k is gonna hold up to 1/16th the abuse put into a car that has millions put into it.

a 4wd suv or truck not intended for off road use?

right...

i'm aware that you'd void your warranty... it wouldn't be covered anymore than drag racing your vette and breaking something would.

just b/c you manual says it's not intended does that mean that it won't do it?

that's a bit too literal of an interpretation.

i'm well aware that it's extra strain. just like taking your car to the strip or to a road course.

either of these events would void your warranty if you break it... right?

we still do it... yes?

and to satisfy my curiousity, do you have a pic of this statement from a manual?

I've taken my 4WD fullsize blazer offroad before... was about as fun as driving a go-kart over potholes. Sure it can be done, but it's OBVIOUS the vehicle wasn't designed for it. Cars/trucks are sold to people based on the concept that you drive it on a street, not with ultimate usability offroad in mind. Don't know how many other ways I can say it.

Originally posted by flylwsi
and to satisfy my curiousity, do you have a pic of this statement from a manual?

I'll try and remember when I get home from school tonight... have class in less than 30 minutes.

much appreciated...

driving a vehicle off road isn't really something that's supposed to have a smooth ride..

you would mod a suspension for offroad just like you would to drop your car to handle better...

manufacturers know that a vehicle most likely won't go off road, but from the vehicles i've seen go off road, with nothing more than a set of big knobbies and wheels... the guys i work with have enough fun with stock 4wd trucks

i know what you're saying... but still...

it doesn't mean you can't do it. and it doesn't mean it won't be able to handle it.

I said I was almost 16, I put on a few months, guess I should have:D. I'm not 14 anyomre, I turned since I posted that thread. I'm a kinda in a hurry to get there (16).

Anyway, the GT-R (R35, that's what I ment) is way out of my reach, for now. Also, I didn't say I'd pay for my whole car, did I? My parents are, well, quite well off, if you know what I mean. Although, that too is a big may. We'll see.

the thread you mentioned was started on 1/10/03

if you turned anything, you turned 15. very recently. so you're not nearly close to 16.

please don't lie here. it proves nothing..

i can appreciate the rich parents thing, but at least make sense between all the posts you make, b/c some of us go through all the same forums you do.

why not get a z and get the greddy tt kit for it? cheaper than a gt-r whenever they show up...

or get an sti... which is a formidable oponent for either car...

Yeah, GT-R will be too much when ever it comes out, I'll shoot for a Z.

If the STI is powered by a 2.5 liter engine, does that mean thats it's the same engine as the 2.5 rs?

Originally posted by -=BOOMER=-
Went to the show couple nights ago and thought people might want to see some other pics of this bad boy.
They are huge, I left them that big so you can see all the detials.


Back (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20009.jpg)
Front head light (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20011.jpg)
Wing (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20012.jpg)
Stats (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20013.jpg)
Open hood (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20014.jpg)
Rear undercarage (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20015.jpg) pipe (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20016.jpg)
front (http://www.defaultcrush.com/tcpics/Other/carshow%20007.jpg)


very nice pics, although they dont work anymore..


btw... Thayne you should take your resume off the net :P

i gotz your phone number!!!!!!!! :P

this post aint meant to piss ya off, or start an argument, just messin around, i aint no stalker.

the sti 2.5 is a purpose built motor, not a reworked wrx 2.0 or the rs's 2.5. it was developed for the sti specifically.

the wrx is a homologation car, meaning subaru built it to homologate the car for rally use. so in effect, it is designed for rallying or "off road use"

I'm sorry but if you people really think you're going to drive around off road and have it be anything close to a rally car or true off-road vehicle, you're a bunch of dumbasses. WRX tires barely have traction on pavement, you would just spin them on dirt, the suspension would be destoroyed after about a day... the open differentials would give you even less traction.

Yes the car is rally "inspired" meaning it's the same basic engine design as the rally cars. Same basic body style, same basic turn radius, stiff sporty suspension, etc etc. THat doesn't mean it's a million dollar dirt/snow machine. It's a great car, but no rally car.

But hey, it's your $25k, waste it as you see fit.

Now I remember why I don't post here much. :flash:

i didn't say you could take it rallying out of the box...

the wrx is not "inspired" by the rally car, it IS the rally car. it is designed specifically for rally racing, then "toned down" to make a cheap, street version that can be sold to homologate the car for WRC competition. just because it's toned down, doesn't change the fact that it was designed to be a competitive rally racer. if you think you have to drop half a million dollars to make a rally car, you need to look at amatuer rally racing. people race - and win - in cars worth less than $10,000.

as far as open differentials go, you know the STi (the car we're talking about here) has a mechanical limited slip rear, driver adjustable center, and suretrac front differential, right?

you said wrx. ;-)

i like the bugged eye front better than the new one.

man i just saw this at the car & truck show here in Jacksonville. man it comes with a turbo and intercooler stock!!! omg ::drool::

i love the way the bugeye one looks, i think it has the potential to look really agressive. i'm not sold on this new one yet though

i love the sti.... oh how i wish my wrx looked like the sti...:cry:

Yeah the new STI looks great really nice. Whoever thinks you can rally right out of the box is a dumbass maybe do minor off-roading but thats it. You need to mod it like a roll cage and new suspension. Tires suck so you need new ones. You need many mods to make this as good as a rally car. The Prodrive WRC WRX STI's new are over $1 million. $95k on the transmission alone

For a decent rally rig, come on how much can it be? You need new tires, some underbody protection, and beefier suspension stuff. Other than that what do you need for a decent, not WRC quality, rally car?

ever heard of scca pro rally?

there's production classes there as well that limit your mods.

you can rally any car my friends, any.

the wrx is no exception.


if you're talking about a car being rallied, this entire thread is based on the wrx sti. not the wrx.

and besides, the car is designed to have good handling with the wheels spinning.

you think that rally cars have traction when flying on ice or gravel? no. it's just controlled wheelspin.

which is why you've got 4 wd.

If the spoiler is GT styles it will look much better. like this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33638&item=2408345788
http://www.racingstreet.com/gt.jpg

that spoiler is over kill for a wrx unless it's jun's track attack car with 500+ hp. sorry... it's a bit much for anything with less than 300hp to the wheels and a top speed of 150+....

you know, now i can actually afford this car.. financed though :o but hey as long as i get to drive it i'm happy, i'll be so glad to see some big fat gold brembo brakes staring at me while i'm cleaning them nice oem rim's, that i'll change instantly for bronze 18x8.5 all around with bfgoodrich kad tires, the madness I say.:D
-Daves
p.s. I still can fell the "beauty of awd" because I currently own a scooby 2.5rs, spectacular.:silly2:

Hey evo how do you like the 2.5rs?

it's a beutiful car, you get everything you want, except a high horsepower killing v8 machine engine that you have to find of course,22b from a 98 scooby sti will work.
-Dave:p