Hasegawa Decal Application
freakray
01-14-2003, 11:19 AM
Hey all,
I am about to start the decals on my Lancia Stratos kit, but before I start I wanted to check one little thing.....
Are Hasegawa decals safe to use MicroSol and MicroSet on?
Most of the kits I build are Tamiya and I know not to use the liquids on them, but what about Hasegawa's decals?
The last thing I want to do is ruin the decals using solution on them when they are sensitive to the stuff like Tamiya's decals are.
Thanks for the help all.
Ray
I am about to start the decals on my Lancia Stratos kit, but before I start I wanted to check one little thing.....
Are Hasegawa decals safe to use MicroSol and MicroSet on?
Most of the kits I build are Tamiya and I know not to use the liquids on them, but what about Hasegawa's decals?
The last thing I want to do is ruin the decals using solution on them when they are sensitive to the stuff like Tamiya's decals are.
Thanks for the help all.
Ray
Del-R
01-14-2003, 11:39 AM
Should be no problem, I used Micro Sol on the same kit with no problems at all.
Vric
01-14-2003, 11:42 AM
Hasegawa decals are ticker than Tamiya... didn't should be a problem..
I dont use Micro Sol , I heat decals insted
I dont use Micro Sol , I heat decals insted
935k3
01-14-2003, 01:31 PM
The decals in that kit and 037 are not the same as the ones in kits like the Focus WRC. The Lancia Decals are very thin and when dried they had a very rough and wrinkled surface compared to Tamiya. I thoroughly recommend going to ahobby shop and purchasing some Microscale Liquid Decal Film. Just brush it on with a good soft brush over the decal sheet, it shows no brush marks whatsoever and is very transparent but smoothes out the decals and makes them look better. Also if you wax those decals without putting this on the colors in the stripes rub off pretty easy. You won't be sorry you coated them.
Diesel2NR
01-14-2003, 01:40 PM
Ray, I haven't used any Hasegawa kits, but I do make my own decals, so maybe I can help out some. 935k3 mentioned recoating the decals. I use Krylon Crystal Clear Acrylic Coating 1303A to coat my decals from my inkjet, and it seems to work well. This stuff is also compatable with Model Master's Decal solutions, but I'm not sure about Microscale. You can get that Krylon at Walmart for about $2 I believe (here at least), and from micromark for $4-6 (they sell it as Decal Clear). This should serve the same purpose as the stuff mentioned above.
freakray
01-14-2003, 02:03 PM
Thanks for the advice guys:)
John, I already have some liquid decal film so I will use that I think;)
953k3,
Thanks for the tip, these are the first Hasegawa decals I am working with, so I am thankful for your advice. If you have built this kit, perhaps you have some tips for fitting the body to the chassis?
Del-R and Vric,
I was hoping you would both reply, as I know you are busy with the same kit Del-R and I know Vric has built some Hasegawa kits:)
I think I will give the decals the extra coat of liquid decal film and then be very careful with the MicroSet, does that sound like a good plan?
BTW, 953k3, would you happen to have a photo of the Stratos kit completed if you have built one? I have your 037 thread bookmarked for future reference when I get to my 037 kit.
Thanks for the help guys.
Ray
John, I already have some liquid decal film so I will use that I think;)
953k3,
Thanks for the tip, these are the first Hasegawa decals I am working with, so I am thankful for your advice. If you have built this kit, perhaps you have some tips for fitting the body to the chassis?
Del-R and Vric,
I was hoping you would both reply, as I know you are busy with the same kit Del-R and I know Vric has built some Hasegawa kits:)
I think I will give the decals the extra coat of liquid decal film and then be very careful with the MicroSet, does that sound like a good plan?
BTW, 953k3, would you happen to have a photo of the Stratos kit completed if you have built one? I have your 037 thread bookmarked for future reference when I get to my 037 kit.
Thanks for the help guys.
Ray
Toksin
01-14-2003, 05:06 PM
Hmmm...I use Micro Set on Tamiya and it didn't give me any problems whatsoever...
primera man
01-14-2003, 05:48 PM
little thing.....
Are Hasegawa decals safe to use MicroSol and MicroSet on?
Most of the kits I build are Tamiya and I know not to use the liquids on them, but what about decals?
I used the Sol and Set on my BMW touring cars from Hasegawa's and the decals did not like it at all.
The decal just lifted off after a day or two as soon as it was touched...it didn't want to stick at all
Are Hasegawa decals safe to use MicroSol and MicroSet on?
Most of the kits I build are Tamiya and I know not to use the liquids on them, but what about decals?
I used the Sol and Set on my BMW touring cars from Hasegawa's and the decals did not like it at all.
The decal just lifted off after a day or two as soon as it was touched...it didn't want to stick at all
freakray
01-14-2003, 06:04 PM
P-Man
So are you saying the decals didn't adhere because of the Microsol and set or they just wouldn't adhere?
How did you get them to stay in the end then?
Has anyone else had the problem P-Man is talking about?
Thanks
Ray
So are you saying the decals didn't adhere because of the Microsol and set or they just wouldn't adhere?
How did you get them to stay in the end then?
Has anyone else had the problem P-Man is talking about?
Thanks
Ray
primera man
01-14-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by freakray
P-Man
So are you saying the decals didn't adhere because of the Microsol and set or they just wouldn't adhere?
How did you get them to stay in the end then?
I'm pretty sure. The decals on the back of the car i didnt use any as i had none and they went on fine.
I then got some solution from the model shop a few days later and used it on the main hood decal and side numbers.
They did not adhere to it at all...they are only just hanging on in place. I can get a soft wet brush and start on one corner and it lifts the whole decal back up as one big piece
P-Man
So are you saying the decals didn't adhere because of the Microsol and set or they just wouldn't adhere?
How did you get them to stay in the end then?
I'm pretty sure. The decals on the back of the car i didnt use any as i had none and they went on fine.
I then got some solution from the model shop a few days later and used it on the main hood decal and side numbers.
They did not adhere to it at all...they are only just hanging on in place. I can get a soft wet brush and start on one corner and it lifts the whole decal back up as one big piece
935k3
01-14-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by freakray
Thanks for the advice guys:)
John, I already have some liquid decal film so I will use that I think;)
953k3,
I think I will give the decals the extra coat of liquid decal film and then be very careful with the MicroSet, does that sound like a good plan?
BTW, 953k3, would you happen to have a photo of the Stratos kit completed if you have built one? I have your 037 thread bookmarked for future reference when I get to my 037 kit.
Thanks for the help guys.
Ray
I have the Stratos but have not built it yet, the decals look exactly like the type in the 037. Microscale decal film is made by the people who make Micro Sol and Micro Set and they will work ok. Believe me the decal film is wonderful and fully safe to use on any decal sheet. It will save older decals that may crack up when put in water. Krylon clear is pretty hot stuff the decal film is much safer to use. If you ever have any problems with decals sticking use Micro Krystal Klear(a white water solluble type glue that drys clear)underneath it. Solvents have nothing to do with sticking problems.
Thanks for the advice guys:)
John, I already have some liquid decal film so I will use that I think;)
953k3,
I think I will give the decals the extra coat of liquid decal film and then be very careful with the MicroSet, does that sound like a good plan?
BTW, 953k3, would you happen to have a photo of the Stratos kit completed if you have built one? I have your 037 thread bookmarked for future reference when I get to my 037 kit.
Thanks for the help guys.
Ray
I have the Stratos but have not built it yet, the decals look exactly like the type in the 037. Microscale decal film is made by the people who make Micro Sol and Micro Set and they will work ok. Believe me the decal film is wonderful and fully safe to use on any decal sheet. It will save older decals that may crack up when put in water. Krylon clear is pretty hot stuff the decal film is much safer to use. If you ever have any problems with decals sticking use Micro Krystal Klear(a white water solluble type glue that drys clear)underneath it. Solvents have nothing to do with sticking problems.
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