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97wvmax
01-13-2003, 04:46 PM
does any1 kno where i can get the extra hp chip? ive talked to some1 online and said that their friend had put a new ecu, chip, and some other things and said it was doin about 240-250 hp. this a good way to go or not?

MaxPayne
01-13-2003, 04:54 PM
240 to 250 hp? Did he mention to you that one of those "other things" would be a supoercharger?

Did this guy just add up all the individual estimated HP gains from all his mods and quote that value to you or did he actually dyno it? For the sound of it, he did the former. In that case, he might be pulling 220 at the crank without a supercharger... MAX. A chip won't net you 40 HP alone and you can't just add up HP values for all your mods and quote that value for your car's HP, it just doesn't work like that.

97wvmax
01-13-2003, 06:27 PM
wat does the chip even do? how much hp will it add to the car?

bk2kmax
01-13-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by 97wvmax
does any1 kno where i can get the extra hp chip? ive talked to some1 online and said that their friend had put a new ecu, chip, and some other things and said it was doin about 240-250 hp. this a good way to go or not?

Not to diss on your friend but 240 or 250 out of a chip is a hell of an increase, when normally a chip usually at best gives you about a 10hp or slightly more increase and it also removes the rev limiter (well, at least some do).

I've never seen a chip that can take you that high, there might be some out there but I haven't seen them. Anyway I know the JET performance makes a chip, you might wanna check them out.

97wvmax
01-13-2003, 06:56 PM
well it wasnt jus a chip, he has basic stuff like intake, exhaust stuff like that. even with that u think it end up anywhere near that?

bk2kmax
01-13-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by 97wvmax
well it wasnt jus a chip, he has basic stuff like intake, exhaust stuff like that. even with that u think it end up anywhere near that?

Possibly, what kind of car did he have and did he get the chip programmed before he added the bolt ons or after?

It does make a difference whether he did or not.

97wvmax
01-13-2003, 08:36 PM
96 gle i think, i kno he got the ecu and the chip round the same time, i would think that he would have gotten the intake and all the first

bk2kmax
01-14-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by 97wvmax
does any1 kno where i can get the extra hp chip? ive talked to some1 online and said that their friend had put a new ecu, chip, and some other things and said it was doin about 240-250 hp. this a good way to go or not?

Go to www.jetchip.com

MaxPayne
01-14-2003, 11:13 AM
The only way you're going to be getting 240+ HP out of the 3.0L Max VQ is Supercharging or Turbocharging, or if you've got one hell of a tuned intake and exhaust system that increases its volumetric efficiency beyond 100%.

MaxPayne
01-14-2003, 02:56 PM
Go here: http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheston/maxmods.html
for a list of Mods available for the Maxima as well as their estimated performance gains. Its not mentioned in the website, but it should be said that the performance gains are the gains you'll get over a stock configuration. Remember, you can't just go through this list, pick out your mods and add the HP figures together. An intake may get you 5-10hp alone, and a y-pipe may get you 12-20hp alone, however, it DOES NOT equal 30hp with them both together, it will be somewhat less. Its more of a square root of the sum of the squares kind of thing (think Pythagorean Theorem).

bk2kmax
01-15-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by MaxPayne
The only way you're going to be getting 240+ HP out of the 3.0L Max VQ is Supercharging or Turbocharging, or if you've got one hell of a tuned intake and exhaust system that increases its volumetric efficiency beyond 100%.

Not if you already have 222hp, you add the y & b pipe, plus intake, exhaust and the chip and you're over 240, albeit slightly but you don't necessarily need an SC to get there.;)

97wvmax
01-15-2003, 06:37 PM
thats wat i was thinkin to begin with :D

Paonessa
01-15-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by bk2kmax


Go to www.jetchip.com

fuck jetchip

Jim Wolfe

bk2kmax
01-15-2003, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I've heard that JWT (Jim Wolf Technologies) is better anywayz.

MaxPayne
01-16-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by bk2kmax


Not if you already have 222hp, you add the y & b pipe, plus intake, exhaust and the chip and you're over 240, albeit slightly but you don't necessarily need an SC to get there.;)

This is true, but since we know its a 97, its only got 190hp stock and isn't from that particular family. The 222HP is a result of major internal engine mods such as lightened rotating assembly to achieve higher RPMs (where most of that 222hp comes from) and about 12 more ft-lbs. An intake + y-pipe might get you close to a 20hp increase, and a B-pipe will only free up a few ponies, not enough to feel. The chip will give you the real extra oomph after those mods getting you close to 250hp from 222. But its not going to happen from 190hp. Not only that, but you still have to shave off 10 to 15% through the driveline.

A chip is a good investment interms of power, but as for that guy's claims that he's running 250hp from 190hp is absurd. If he's got the 222hp version, then I take it all back.

bk2kmax
01-16-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by MaxPayne


This is true, but since we know its a 97, its only got 190hp stock and isn't from that particular family. The 222HP is a result of major internal engine mods such as lightened rotating assembly to achieve higher RPMs (where most of that 222hp comes from) and about 12 more ft-lbs. An intake + y-pipe might get you close to a 20hp increase, and a B-pipe will only free up a few ponies, not enough to feel. The chip will give you the real extra oomph after those mods getting you close to 250hp from 222. But its not going to happen from 190hp. Not only that, but you still have to shave off 10 to 15% through the driveline.

A chip is a good investment interms of power, but as for that guy's claims that he's running 250hp from 190hp is absurd. If he's got the 222hp version, then I take it all back.

I was assuming he had 222 to start with but that is good info to know and it is 100% correct.

Pick
01-17-2003, 06:12 PM
Besides, the 4th gen dynos at less then 190 horses (something like 176 horses) to the wheels. There's no way you can get that type of horsepower from bolt-ons.

bk2kmax
01-17-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Pick
Besides, the 4th gen dynos at less then 190 horses (something like 176 horses) to the wheels. There's no way you can get that type of horsepower from bolt-ons.

I totally concur with you on that, bolt ons to a 97 will not get you that type of hp, unless you threw the MEVI and a 60 shot of n20.

zaphanathpaneah
01-20-2003, 01:35 AM
:smoka:
stay away from anyone professing to have a quick fix for more HP. The chip he refers to is nothing more than a resister soldered on to the elecrical system to fool the computer making adjustments in the air/ fuel raito. You ##&(* with you max and you will be sorry. Go the way of standard and proven mods that will not cost you $$ in repairs and also cost you your life.

MaxPayne
01-20-2003, 10:32 AM
Some chip mods work very well though, but they aren't cheap. If you aren't paying in the range of $300 to $400 for the part, then its a scam.

Paonessa
01-20-2003, 11:04 AM
the best way to go is to have the chip tailored to suit the mods on your car.

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