V6 conversion
jeelanim
01-12-2003, 07:40 PM
Would it be possible to swap a v6 accord engine (isnt the code j30?) into a 98 accord? Would it require customization or is it a perfect swap?
jeelanim
01-12-2003, 07:41 PM
The accord is 4 door 4 cyl by the way.
HONDA_99
01-14-2003, 11:54 PM
H22 will be much easier and cheaper swap.
jeelani
02-04-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by jeelanim
Would it be possible to swap a v6 accord engine (isnt the code j30?) into a 98 accord? Would it require customization or is it a perfect swap?
Can anyone answer my question?
Would it be possible to swap a v6 accord engine (isnt the code j30?) into a 98 accord? Would it require customization or is it a perfect swap?
Can anyone answer my question?
B16EJ1
02-04-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by HONDA_99
H22 will be much easier and cheaper swap.
Honda 99 has is right. Forget your question and take the suggestion. You would also out perform the V6 if that's what you care about. The V6 would be a waste of time and money IMO. Sorry that this doesn't answer your question.
H22 will be much easier and cheaper swap.
Honda 99 has is right. Forget your question and take the suggestion. You would also out perform the V6 if that's what you care about. The V6 would be a waste of time and money IMO. Sorry that this doesn't answer your question.
jeelanim
02-06-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by jeelanim
Would it be possible to swap a v6 accord engine (isnt the code j30?) into a 98 accord? Would it require customization or is it a perfect swap?
Again, can someone answer my question?
Would it be possible to swap a v6 accord engine (isnt the code j30?) into a 98 accord? Would it require customization or is it a perfect swap?
Again, can someone answer my question?
B16EJ1
02-06-2003, 08:13 PM
NO
Pick
02-07-2003, 09:14 PM
Is the H22 v-6 or I-4?
B16EJ1
02-08-2003, 03:25 PM
I4 with more hp than the V6
HONDA_99
02-08-2003, 10:52 PM
2002 accord V6 (J30A1) EX sedan rated at 200HP @ 5500 rpm & 195 ft-lbs @ 4700rpm and its weight is 3329lbs (heaviest accord). FYI 2002 accord I4 EX sedan weight is 3075lbs.
2001 Prelude SH (H22A1) rated 200hp @ 7000rpm & 156 ft-lbs @ 5250rpm and its weight is 3042 lbs.
as you see horse power is same but from J30 engine pick comes much earlier, plus additional 39ft-lbs of torque is very helpful on heavy accord. other thing J30 run on 87 octain gas when H22 requires premium. so J30 is outperforming H22 in every category exept transmission, its avalable only with automatic transmission. custom swap to manual (legend tranny) runs about $7.5K, very inefficient mod.
now about engine swap; since V6 engine located on passenger side when I4 (F23 & H22) located on driver side, because of that you have to replace every thing in engine including all crossmemebers. that will cost a ton of money. on top of that handling of car will go down due to heavier engine.
so H22 is much more efficient swap for car that already has I4 engine in it.
2001 Prelude SH (H22A1) rated 200hp @ 7000rpm & 156 ft-lbs @ 5250rpm and its weight is 3042 lbs.
as you see horse power is same but from J30 engine pick comes much earlier, plus additional 39ft-lbs of torque is very helpful on heavy accord. other thing J30 run on 87 octain gas when H22 requires premium. so J30 is outperforming H22 in every category exept transmission, its avalable only with automatic transmission. custom swap to manual (legend tranny) runs about $7.5K, very inefficient mod.
now about engine swap; since V6 engine located on passenger side when I4 (F23 & H22) located on driver side, because of that you have to replace every thing in engine including all crossmemebers. that will cost a ton of money. on top of that handling of car will go down due to heavier engine.
so H22 is much more efficient swap for car that already has I4 engine in it.
B16EJ1
02-09-2003, 02:31 AM
What's the spec's on the jdm H22? Look that up.....never mind I got it.
97-00 JDM H22A Type s= 223hp@7200rpm. JDM BABY!!!:ylsuper
97-00 JDM H22A Type s= 223hp@7200rpm. JDM BABY!!!:ylsuper
SOHCit2me
06-21-2003, 04:26 PM
i have the same question. The thing is I have a auto trans accord. I was thinking about swapping to h22a but if i wanted to, i need to get the 5spd swap done too. All this would be a bitch and would cost me at least 10 grand or more. If its possible to get the v6 engine swap then i could go straight to the comptech supercharger and go from there. Theres no point in getting a h22a swap with automatic cuz then u can't do jack shit to it, or anything that'll give you that major boost in power.
youreviltwin
02-06-2004, 11:56 AM
Why would you get a 4cyl over a v6?
If you plan on building your engine get the V6, it has way more potential. The 4cyl Accord and the v6 are the same car all you will have to do is change the mounts. As far as the AT goes you can swap a 03 CL - s 6 spd into it, forget about the legend trans it doesnt even sit the same way and you would have to do a ton of fabricating. If you swap a cls trans in you will need a stand alone ECU. It all depends what you want. Lots of people have H22's in thier accord but you are limited by it only having 4 cyl. Stock engine and a turbo you will make around 280 WHP. stock v6 with an SC and stand alone ECU you can make 400hp.
-Eric
If you plan on building your engine get the V6, it has way more potential. The 4cyl Accord and the v6 are the same car all you will have to do is change the mounts. As far as the AT goes you can swap a 03 CL - s 6 spd into it, forget about the legend trans it doesnt even sit the same way and you would have to do a ton of fabricating. If you swap a cls trans in you will need a stand alone ECU. It all depends what you want. Lots of people have H22's in thier accord but you are limited by it only having 4 cyl. Stock engine and a turbo you will make around 280 WHP. stock v6 with an SC and stand alone ECU you can make 400hp.
-Eric
manny_airborne
02-07-2004, 03:05 PM
would i be able to swao out the 3.0 liter v6 wit a tl 3.2 liter vtec manual
youreviltwin
02-07-2004, 08:22 PM
would i be able to swao out the 3.0 liter v6 wit a tl 3.2 liter vtec manual
Yes!
The cl and the 6th gen accord are the same car they just have differents outsides and motors. The accord has a j30 and the CL-s a J32. All the mounts excpet for one trans mount can be used.
when I put the cl-s 6spd trans in my car it bolted right up and all the mounts worked except for one at the back of the trans. The CL mount is bigger has more parts and is stronger. There is a mount on the right sid eof the engine also this is different on the CL but the accord one works fine. I also used the honda axles and intermediate shaft. It's cool alot of the parts are the same and hav the same part number.
All you need is the motor ECU and trans.
Becuase I kept the j30 engine when I did the manual swap I had to get a stand alone ecu. I chose haltech and now my car makes over 300 at the wheels with 12 lbs of boost.
Yes!
The cl and the 6th gen accord are the same car they just have differents outsides and motors. The accord has a j30 and the CL-s a J32. All the mounts excpet for one trans mount can be used.
when I put the cl-s 6spd trans in my car it bolted right up and all the mounts worked except for one at the back of the trans. The CL mount is bigger has more parts and is stronger. There is a mount on the right sid eof the engine also this is different on the CL but the accord one works fine. I also used the honda axles and intermediate shaft. It's cool alot of the parts are the same and hav the same part number.
All you need is the motor ECU and trans.
Becuase I kept the j30 engine when I did the manual swap I had to get a stand alone ecu. I chose haltech and now my car makes over 300 at the wheels with 12 lbs of boost.
manny_airborne
02-08-2004, 11:57 AM
i think it either puts out 275 or 285 ponies in a 6 speed vtec
it comes wit da supercharger but i want that engine wit a turbo
it comes wit da supercharger but i want that engine wit a turbo
youreviltwin
02-09-2004, 12:56 PM
i think it either puts out 275 or 285 ponies in a 6 speed vtec
it comes wit da supercharger but i want that engine wit a turbo
Nope, with the haltech and 440cc injectors we are able to get over 300 the the wheels.
it comes wit da supercharger but i want that engine wit a turbo
Nope, with the haltech and 440cc injectors we are able to get over 300 the the wheels.
SOHCit2me
02-12-2004, 08:54 PM
Why would you get a 4cyl over a v6?
If you plan on building your engine get the V6, it has way more potential. The 4cyl Accord and the v6 are the same car all you will have to do is change the mounts. As far as the AT goes you can swap a 03 CL - s 6 spd into it, forget about the legend trans it doesnt even sit the same way and you would have to do a ton of fabricating. If you swap a cls trans in you will need a stand alone ECU. It all depends what you want. Lots of people have H22's in thier accord but you are limited by it only having 4 cyl. Stock engine and a turbo you will make around 280 WHP. stock v6 with an SC and stand alone ECU you can make 400hp.
-Eric
the v6 does NOT have way more potential, b/c of the limits on the aftermarket products. H22a, lude engine has so much to gain due to the available extensive aftermarket products out for the engine. Plus, the 5spd transmission swap is available with the h22a, not the v6 accord engine. The main problem with the v6 engine right now is the weak transmission. IF** you have the money to do so, the H22a has so much more potential, than the v6 engine. Stock v6 engine with an S/C and ECU does not make 400 by the way. Get your research straight.
If you plan on building your engine get the V6, it has way more potential. The 4cyl Accord and the v6 are the same car all you will have to do is change the mounts. As far as the AT goes you can swap a 03 CL - s 6 spd into it, forget about the legend trans it doesnt even sit the same way and you would have to do a ton of fabricating. If you swap a cls trans in you will need a stand alone ECU. It all depends what you want. Lots of people have H22's in thier accord but you are limited by it only having 4 cyl. Stock engine and a turbo you will make around 280 WHP. stock v6 with an SC and stand alone ECU you can make 400hp.
-Eric
the v6 does NOT have way more potential, b/c of the limits on the aftermarket products. H22a, lude engine has so much to gain due to the available extensive aftermarket products out for the engine. Plus, the 5spd transmission swap is available with the h22a, not the v6 accord engine. The main problem with the v6 engine right now is the weak transmission. IF** you have the money to do so, the H22a has so much more potential, than the v6 engine. Stock v6 engine with an S/C and ECU does not make 400 by the way. Get your research straight.
HONDA_99
02-13-2004, 08:21 AM
More potential mean respond to modification. Headers along will give at least 11whp; I personally gain 13whp when I had AEM CAI. You will not see such gain on H22.
And aftermarket support used to be bad for J30A1, but not any more. Now it ranges from thermal gaskets to automatic transmission that holds 500hp.
Yes you right about stock J30A1 with CT SC will not produce 400hp, but there is bunch of guys who pushing over 300hp with just bigger fuel injectors.
BTW, this thread started with guy asking if he can put J30A1 into his accord with I4 engine. And still stand by H22 is much better swap then J30, it much more cost efficient.
And aftermarket support used to be bad for J30A1, but not any more. Now it ranges from thermal gaskets to automatic transmission that holds 500hp.
Yes you right about stock J30A1 with CT SC will not produce 400hp, but there is bunch of guys who pushing over 300hp with just bigger fuel injectors.
BTW, this thread started with guy asking if he can put J30A1 into his accord with I4 engine. And still stand by H22 is much better swap then J30, it much more cost efficient.
blueturtle
02-13-2004, 11:29 AM
well im sure he would want to go with the v-6 because theres way more touqe than the 4 banger
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