Please Help!!
pearl-p10
10-02-2001, 09:48 PM
My 93 g-20 is having some steering issues. An alignment was just done so I know that the toe, camber, ect are all correct. The car is not lowered and the cv-axels seem to be in good shape. But the car will drift right or left when accelerating. When shifting the steering wheel drops back to the correct position. I would bite the bullet and have it serviced but I have hardly any money right now. Please Help.
ricecube77
10-02-2001, 10:29 PM
Under HARD acceleration, most horizontally placed engine cars will steer a bit to the left or right.
Your engine is placed horizontally, so that under hard acceleration, the right side (passenger) front wheel accelerates a bit faster for more rotational speed, compared to the driver's side front wheel. The engine is placed off center a bit in G20's, giving a shorter shaft to turn the passenger side wheels. Shorter shaft is quicker response and more acceleration. Thus, you will be pulled to the left a bit. ........ So what i've been told by several people with G20's...
-Phil
..... If i have no idea what im talkin about, correct me please Geo :).. I'm prettymuch confused on this subject too. haha.
Your engine is placed horizontally, so that under hard acceleration, the right side (passenger) front wheel accelerates a bit faster for more rotational speed, compared to the driver's side front wheel. The engine is placed off center a bit in G20's, giving a shorter shaft to turn the passenger side wheels. Shorter shaft is quicker response and more acceleration. Thus, you will be pulled to the left a bit. ........ So what i've been told by several people with G20's...
-Phil
..... If i have no idea what im talkin about, correct me please Geo :).. I'm prettymuch confused on this subject too. haha.
pearl-p10
10-02-2001, 11:29 PM
I understand what you are saying but this is a new problem. It is not just under hard acceleration but under any acceleration. Thank you for the help though.
P10DET
10-03-2001, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by ricecube77
..... If i have no idea what im talkin about, correct me please Geo :).. I'm prettymuch confused on this subject too. haha.
Hehe.
Ok, you're confused, but not totally. You're thinking about torque steer. there are several things that affect torque steer. Our cars have equal length halfshafts, but the passenger side has an "intermediate" shaft if you will. But, the design of our cars tends to minimize torque steer.
I think the problem is something else. It can be many, many things, mostly due to alignment. I know the car was just aligned, but sometimes the monkeys don't spend enough time trying to get it right.
Is this happening on the same streets you alwasy drive on? Any other changes to the car besides alignment?
..... If i have no idea what im talkin about, correct me please Geo :).. I'm prettymuch confused on this subject too. haha.
Hehe.
Ok, you're confused, but not totally. You're thinking about torque steer. there are several things that affect torque steer. Our cars have equal length halfshafts, but the passenger side has an "intermediate" shaft if you will. But, the design of our cars tends to minimize torque steer.
I think the problem is something else. It can be many, many things, mostly due to alignment. I know the car was just aligned, but sometimes the monkeys don't spend enough time trying to get it right.
Is this happening on the same streets you alwasy drive on? Any other changes to the car besides alignment?
Anthony
10-03-2001, 06:20 AM
Jack the car up and try rocking the front wheels back and forth. If they move, then check all the suspension arms, links, and bushings for damage.
A friend of mine had the same problem on one of his old cars - under acceleration the car would pull badly to one side. It turned out that one (out of two) of the lower suspension arms had broken in half, and the wheel literally moved back about 3" when he accelerated, which obvious completely screwed up toe, camber, and all that.
Other than that, also ensure that the car is sitting level, all the shocks are in working order (not siezed or worn out), the brakes are binding, and that the tires are all correctly inflated.
A friend of mine had the same problem on one of his old cars - under acceleration the car would pull badly to one side. It turned out that one (out of two) of the lower suspension arms had broken in half, and the wheel literally moved back about 3" when he accelerated, which obvious completely screwed up toe, camber, and all that.
Other than that, also ensure that the car is sitting level, all the shocks are in working order (not siezed or worn out), the brakes are binding, and that the tires are all correctly inflated.
pearl-p10
10-03-2001, 03:04 PM
I actually just found a hole in my high pressure power steering hose. So I am assuming that there are pressure changes when the steering hits an air pocket instead of the fluid that should be there. I hope I am right since the hose is costing me $175 before I put it in. I thank all of you for your help though.
pearl-p10
10-09-2001, 12:11 PM
The power-steering hose only masked the problem but it still exsisted. I later figured out that it was a torn bushing in the lower control arm. The don't sell the bushing so you have to replace the entire control arm. I got mine for 50 bucks at the junkyard. Now the problem is really gone. I am just glad it is an original AZ car with no-rust, or else it would have been interesting. I also can no longer hear due to hours of working with air tools. I thank everyone for their input in helping me solve this problem.
T4 Primera
10-10-2001, 05:26 AM
Pearl P10, could you tag your fix on the end of this other thread the smoothg20 started for future reference.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t7775.html
Cheers:)
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t7775.html
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