distributing Skylines in USA

do you think that it would be a good choice to be a skyline distributor here in Los Angeles? what do you think it would take and would they sell here? i an really thinking of doing this. any imput is welcome. thanks

cisco

I'm assuming you do know about Motorex already right? I would love some competition down there in LA to drive those prices down. But by your post I'm not gonna be getting too excited. It seems if you really were interested, you would know that it's probably gonna cost you at least a million bucks to get started. But if this really is something you're gonna do, I'll be sure to stop on by my next time down south!

can you get a loan or have 15,000,000 ready to invest ???????

if you do!

you can certifiy your own , and have have a couple of cars on hand to sell right a way.

lets see maybe im in a little bit over my head. well i thought it was a good idea.i ight be able to get close to a mil but not 15. well at least the candle got blown out quick before it got to low. maybe when i win the lotto.thanks

cisco

super accord are you a disrtibutor? how did you do it?

Yep. I sure am a distributor. Every night when I goto sleep, but damn that alarm clock!! The reason I got that $1M quote was becuase motorex supposedly wants $1.5M for all their goods. That would buy you in the skyline selling business with someone else doing the work for you. If you wanted to do it on your own, it might cost less, but of course you'll have all the headaches and problems. Although, if you had the money, it would be a fun process to go through. I think $15M is way over the top. Hell, you could sell these things out of your garage, you don't even need a dealership lot. We want these things so bad, who cares where we get them from as long as they're legit. So for sure if you had $2M you could buy the info from motorex, become a registered importer, and have a nice assortment of cars to get yourself started. Oh, and can I have a job? I think you already know what my price would be! :sun: Nah, I'd just settle for a really good loan on one! Hope that helps.

If you have a million you can do it, easily.

Unlike some unrealistic post of it costing $15,000,000:rolleyes:. Oh, I forgot he knows everything. dp, The King of Skyline information. The Jack of all trades and master of none. Sarcasm it rocks.

Anyway,

I have done some research, and my wife is a laywer that would be willing to help if need be. Send me an e-mail.

DORK


um if you want PEOPLE TO AFFORD A SKYLINE AND hev at least 35 ~50 cars in stock THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES and if you know any FUCKING thinkg about business you will know More supply and more Product instock you can sell cheaper ,


ALSO


IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING , you know that moto~reck OWNS THE RIGHTS TO IMPORT THAT GTR NAME PLACE AND YOU WILL NEED TO GO THRU DOT to get any access.

motorex doesnt have 35-50 gtrs in stock...in matter of fact, they usually have zero and just take orders

Hey, dieselpower, if you knew anything about math, you'd know that 50 top-of-the-line 2001 JDM Spec-M Skylines would cost no more than US$2.6million and I'm overestimating shipping and conversion costs. Even posting a 100% bond on all the cars including shipping would be less than $5 million. Do the conversion from Japanese Yen to US$ for the GT-Rs. Jeez, BUYING MOTOREX AND GETTING 50 CARS AND POSTING A BOND WOULD BE WAY LESS THAN US$10MILLION. They sell for US$45-50K in their home market. Hell, buying such a large order would likely entitle one to a huge discount and would result in a much lower price than that. I'm sure the info and everything else could easily be gained for less than US$1million, although as super 96 accord said, it would include a ton of headaches . Hopefully a millionaire fanatic will recognize this and take a chance. Also, most of the cars at Motorex are either the owner's or customer cars.

Good point guys.

Hey dp,

I know a lot more than you do on the subject, and I can add.:D

Where are people getting these numbers from? You all are kidding me right? 15 million? WTF :rolleyes:

Even the 1 mil is a bit high, but probably a good estimate all told, including labor and startup costs for the company.

Guys, you do know how to bond a car correct? You don't post the bond, the RI posts the bond, and you pay a percentage of it.

Reasonably, I can see the whole process completed for 500K.

If you all would like to know more about it, send me an email. It isn't hard, just time consuming.

Your absolutely right Shooter,

Where are people getting these numbers from? You all are kidding me right? 15 million? WTF :rolleyes:

By the way dp,

Supply is product. Economics is based on supply and demand. Keep at it, you might get something right, but I kind of doubt it.

damm you sure know your business ?????


WELLL HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THEM????? FOOL


Um See in calfornia you need
1) A building
2) A stock of cars to sell
3) A stock of Parts to sell
4) Staff of TECNISISONS to work on the cars
5) Staff of Mechanics who know what they are doing
6) A Body shop who knows how to fix em
7) A shop to make Mods and install Turbo upgrades and race prep Cars for drag and Track.
8) Hey what about a TRAINED SALES STAFF
and how do you plan to pay them HUH !
9) What about advertising.

SkylineUSA ---- mann if your so smart why do you sell them out of your house.

Originally posted by dieselpower
damm you sure know your business ?????


WELLL HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THEM????? FOOL


Um See in calfornia you need
1) A building
2) A stock of cars to sell
3) A stock of Parts to sell
4) Staff of TECNISISONS to work on the cars
5) Staff of Mechanics who know what they are doing
6) A Body shop who knows how to fix em
7) A shop to make Mods and install Turbo upgrades and race prep Cars for drag and Track.
8) Hey what about a TRAINED SALES STAFF
and how do you plan to pay them HUH !
9) What about advertising.

SkylineUSA ---- mann if your so smart why do you sell them out of your house.


First I will refer you to Websters - you can buy a nice desktop dictionary for about $20 USD. Once you learn to spell half decent - talk to me about business matters.

Everything else, I will just let you live in dreamland.

Hey dp,

Thanks for the complement. "damm you sure know your business ?????"


I am moving to Europe at the end of the year. That's when I will buy my GT-R and tear it down and rebuild it. I will post what I learn from it on this board, my only regret will be that you will learn from it too.

Shooter Boy

Shooter Boy


UM ? did I join an FOURM FOR ENGLISH PLACEMENNT ????

dieselpower: This is your first and last warning, if you insult a member on AF again you will be banned. :) Have a good day.

i have decided to do a little more saving and then maybe do the distribution thing. or maybe i will be satisfied by just buying a damn r-33 and pumping it up full of hp. i look forward to learning from you SkylineUSA. i know it will be tons of fun

Yep, you guys all make good points, dieselpower excluded. Also, Shooter Boy, thanks for the info on the customs bond. Maybe someone here can put up some dough and partner with an RI to help out on this stuff. All I have to say is best wishes. It would be awhile before I could come up with enough dough, but I have no doubts that it could be done for less than US$500,000. Unfortunately, few folks with the will to do it have the cash, and those with the cash would likely just buy from MotoRex since they probably are too busy making that kind of money in other ventures. I hope one of you guys with the cash proves me wrong and saves me big bucks from MotoRex's prices since their prices are only going up. IMO, if their used car prices dropped at least 10%, they would likely sell tons more cars, and likely reap bigger profits. In case nobody has seen their website, 2001 cars are US$95,000 and up. Used Skyline prices were not adjusted, even though they keep getting cheaper for them to purchase in Japan. Then again, one can argue about the exclusivity factor in the US...but that's another story...

DP - your spelling is a direct reflection of you. If you can't spell, who is going to listen to what your opinions on business are? even when you don't know what you are talking about.

Everyone Else: I would love to be involved with a program of importing GTR's, or maybe Silvia's, Sunny's etc.

If anyone is interested, email me, we can chat. Most of my money is locked up in our Racing Program, but maybe we can figure something out, or I can contribute with my knowledge of the FMVSS, DOT, EPA and Customs Regs, and use some of my contacts to help us out.

Kevin

BLAH !

BLAH !

BALH !


Mann you guys can talk up a storm , But all words no action.


cisco35----- do some research and you can probably do this on your own. But the #'s I gave you is based on having all the needs in the So. Cal area and to have a Place for 3 years.

All words and no actions? Please do inform me, who imported my GTR?




I think that I am qualified to talk about this.

Um See in calfornia you need
1) A building
2) A stock of cars to sell
3) A stock of Parts to sell
4) Staff of TECNISISONS to work on the cars
5) Staff of Mechanics who know what they are doing
6) A Body shop who knows how to fix em
7) A shop to make Mods and install Turbo upgrades and race prep Cars for drag and Track.
8) Hey what about a TRAINED SALES STAFF
and how do you plan to pay them HUH !
9) What about advertising.
Since when do you need ALL of that to sell a car? This is a realatively small business, NOT a HUGE mainstream car dealer...At least not yet...
What really boggles my mind is that no one has Jumped on the J-spec Car improtation scene.... There are so many cars that would sell very well to people in the import scene. Hell if we could get the SCCA to allow R34s, S15s, Tom's Supras ect... We could change Touring, GT and GTR series racing in America for a long time.
In my eyes there is alot of money to be made selling J-spec cars here. Most import mags and sports car mags would feature that kind of thing in their pages so people would definitely find out about you and your Very different cars. Who knows what could happen if there where more RIs selling J-spec cars...I am totally down when it's comes to this kind of thing. Thats what I'm going to college for... MY own shop for all cars, And selling exotic J-spec cars like the TK ZZ 2....

~< PeAcE >~
--_GTR-33_--

Originally posted by dieselpower

cisco35----- do some research and you can probably do this on your own.


what do you think he's doing now?! RESEARCH! 15 million LOL! :D

I think you need to get like 4-5 GTRs and crash them for safety testing or something like..... I remember somebody saying that motorex had to do this
so that'll put you down in the hole by a bit.... but if you have the funds, DO IT! I think there is huge profit to be made. Just keep us posted if you do it (I could use a job in California) :D

Originally posted by dieselpower
damm you sure know your business ?????


WELLL HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THEM????? FOOL


Um See in calfornia you need
1) A building
2) A stock of cars to sell
3) A stock of Parts to sell
4) Staff of TECNISISONS to work on the cars
5) Staff of Mechanics who know what they are doing
6) A Body shop who knows how to fix em
7) A shop to make Mods and install Turbo upgrades and race prep Cars for drag and Track.
8) Hey what about a TRAINED SALES STAFF
and how do you plan to pay them HUH !
9) What about advertising.

SkylineUSA ---- mann if your so smart why do you sell them out of your house.


How am I going to sell them. If I let it be known on the internet (like right here) that I have Gt-R34's for sale at say 50k and listed my address with this, the next day I would wake up to about 50,000 crazed Skyline lovers with cash in hand beating on my door saying things like "WE WANT V-SPEC, WE WANT V-SPEC" Well, not realy but what I am getting at is the supply and demand aspect of sales. The demand is already here IN FORCE. All I have to do is get the supply, problem solved. Rent out some space in a parking garage, rent a small corner office for like 5k a month. as for all the stuff above
3) A stock of Parts to sell *I'm basicaly a used car salesmen when you think about it, do they have a stock of parts on the lot?*
4) Staff of TECNISISONS to work on the cars *Same as above*
Wait, I'm not even going to bother responding to all those, I am not a dealership, people know this... they come to me to buy a skyline for 30k less then they would normaly have to pay. They know that I am not a dealership and that if they own an exotic car in the US they will have to go through the BS to get it fixed, modded, ect.

Originally posted by Gonthrax

They know that I am not a dealership and that if they own an exotic car in the US they will have to go through the BS to get it fixed, modded, ect.

exactly, if you buy an exotic car like that, expect the hassles. It's worth it if it's a couple k less than motorex
plus it's not like motorex has a dealership or anything!! He'd just be trying to do what motorex is doing, just cheaper

motorex could use a little more advertisement IMO

Skylines are horridly under advertised here in the US, I think that if there were some TV commercials about then then more of a demand would be created which could motivate all the investers out there to sink some money into getting them into the US thus creating a supply to meet the demand and lowering prices all around (that damned motorex would have to lower prices if they wanted to keep their piece of the pie).

As for the need to advertise the hypothetical RI, very few people in the USA know what a Skyline is, and chances are, if you know what it is and don't have one, you are drooling over then and if there is a way to get then easiely in the US, YOU WILL FIND IT!

I know that if there was a dealer selling GTRs here in the US for say 30-50k, I would find it :P

Originally posted by Gonthrax

I know that if there was a dealer selling GTRs here in the US for say 30-50k, I would find it :P

I don't think motorex has enough money for TV commercials, i just think they need some better marketing... put some big ads in major car Magazines, that would do it

you could get an R33 skyline GT-R from motorex for around 50k

All this talk about Selling Skylines! I want to sell Skylines now! Argghhh! It's drving me carazy anyways after you start selling them you could make as bid as profit as you want (well not literally) but you could easily expand as you sell them. After about a year or two of Skyline sellign you could get your fancy 15 million dollar facility. :D

If alot of you bought them, then all would be good :D

Then again.. NO! I want them all for me!

OK lets start importing for real! Did you guys know that the US gov. loans out money to people for whatever reason that does NOT have to be paid back? Like 100K just to open a store....I say we contact the DOT, EPA, USCO, and the IRS and let the Importing begin! Lets do this! Who wants to? The great business, and lots o money is right there! If there Is money to be made anywhere, I want some! Real legal advice is more than welcome.

PEACE
GTR-33

I think their money is going into bombs at the moment... I don't think they want the fast and the furious viewers all driving GTRs..

Technically we are not in a war, so the funds are still there. Our governmet has -4,500,000,000,000 dollars! Whats another 200K?

why cant you get skylines in the USA if i were you i would move to AUSTRALIA there are heaps of SKYLINES here want to see mine :flash: :flash: :D :D

Ya, I've heard of those government programs as well. If someone were to find out the info, I'll go along with it. We could partner up and put our money together and get the business started. I already have a business license in the auto parts category if that would help at all. If we had five/six people putting their govt. money in to it, we would be up and running in no time. Oh, and we would get to goto Japan!!!!! And it'd be a business trip so it would be tax deductible!!

Originally posted by super 96 accord
Ya, I've heard of those government programs as well. If someone were to find out the info, I'll go along with it. We could partner up and put our money together and get the business started. I already have a business license in the auto parts category if that would help at all. If we had five/six people putting their govt. money in to it, we would be up and running in no time. Oh, and we would get to goto Japan!!!!! And it'd be a business trip so it would be tax deductible!!

i want a piece of that!! :cry:

I think they have probably got heaps of people asking for money..
I don't think they will help out bringing another good japper to the USA... they want you buying domestic's.. :rolleyes:

Why are you so negative about this? I think I know a little more about how our government works than you do. No matter happens unless we are in war time our government has to give out At least 10 Million(if not much more) to prospective bussiness people all over the US. How do you think Apple, Microsoft, Nike ect all got started?

Yeah, don't you guys watch Tv? With that crazy guy running around w/his exclamation mark jacket saying he has all the government programs spelled out in his book you can buy! I don't know about spending $XX??? for his book though. I'm sure the info is out there for free somewhere. I also have a shop out here in Northern Cali that is interested in becoming a service station for skylines. So I'm sure they wouldn't mind investing some as well.

Originally posted by super 96 accord
Yeah, don't you guys watch Tv? With that crazy guy running around w/his exclamation mark jacket

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that guy is hilarious!! :D

hey super accord... italian, check out my mob thread in the off-topic forum
Italian mafia, kills all :D

this should work, click here:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=85352&t=1470#post85352

I don't know a thing! Ya hear me, NUTHIN!!

Originally posted by super 96 accord
I don't know a thing! Ya hear me, NUTHIN!!

good thing you're stickin to the Omerta :D don't be a rat! like sammy gravano!

To every one who is all for the idea of getting togather, getting Gov grants and such to start importing skylines.

This is a GREAT idea and one that can be realized with just a little hassle. I for one will play some phone tag with some govt. office and see exactialy how much money can be had, how hard it is to get, and what needs to be presented in order to get it. Also, I'm sure that we are not the first ones to kick around this idea, there are more then likely many others who have applied for the same thing, perhaps these things are on file some were to be checked out for info that would be helpfull. Another interesting wrinkle that I can offer is that if we have all our ducks in a row with licences in hand, govt approvial in hand, and a memo detailing out plans and what we have done, I am a broke collage student, BUT I happen to know several VERY NOT BROKE opportunists with 7 digit bank accounts who just might like this idea and could possibly back us. IF we have all things lined up with info down on paper so they have reason to beleave we are ready to go on this and have our shit in line so this has a good success likelyhood.

Lemme know, [email protected]

:flipa: this is to the gov. Who needs mods? just metal plate it. I live in Canada and The standards for safty are higher!!!!!!!!:finger: so I say we bring some over and start fu8king with them. Put come metar in it and it would be freaking bullet-proof. I have some money and am ready to start testing them if anyones with me. my email is [email protected]. Lets kick some ass and then run them over with skylines with 1000hp. Thats what iam talking about.:smoka:

If you started that business and actually did some good marketing, it would be really succesful i think

like motorex doesn't have any marketing at all (it seems like) i found about motorex on here when somebody talked about it a long time ago, before that i didn't know about it, never saw any ads or anything
If you put ads in like Sports compact car and Car and Driver, I'm sure the business would blow up

:finger: :flipa: to motorex. I know what youre talking about. If we could market it smartly you could make huge money. The problem is getting started. First you have two choices: give motorex treir 1.5 million or bring over skylines and test em up and do some work on them. Then there is some other b.s. that I dont know about but anybody willing to invest in this would easily get their money back.:bandit: thanks peoples. Is there anybody willing to help to get it going with me. I have a very small amount of money but I can find cheap skylines easily.:D

Whats going on with this seriously? I am in if it does go down. I don't know what I personally need to contribute to this. I'm 20 years old. I don't have any money to invest up front. All I have is some marketing ideas and some skills with a wrench. I have no bussiness expertise really. But I know that the Skyline would sell. I want to know who really wants to do this. I do, although I don't have much to contribute at the moment, I am a smart man. It's time to get the ball rolling. The biggest factor here is trust. Who can actually trust one another to keep this business split even no mater what. Who can be trusted? Who is just looking for a quick buck?
Gonthrax: I have found a couple grants that we might be able to get as well as 100% gaarunteed (cajun accent) Loans up to 500K. How has your search gone? Besides the possible partner in Japan.
We need to start writing up a plan of action if this is going to work at all.

Key word today is TRUST.

Peace

R33,
From talking to an aid in Frankfort, (Frankfort KY, our capital, not Germany) I have found around 1.2 MILLION dollars in funding out there, now the question is, could we get all of it or would our acceptance for one grant automaticaly disqualify us for some other grants. I know this is not the case with all of them but I think it is a good possibility that that could be true.
As from what you can do, right now, I'm sure your knowladge of Skylines is far greater then mine so you will come in extreamly usefull in the search for what has to be done to convert a skyline to be legal in the US.
Anyhow, I'll keep you all informed when I get somthing concrete but untill then, if you get any info drop me a line at [email protected] and keep shooting ideas at me.

:confused: :flash: woah. You guys sure do know your stuff. 1.2 million dollars!!!!!! ieeeeeeee. Thatll get us everything we need (hopefully). Last night I was considering taking the Lancer plan too but then I remembered that the friggin Lancer is coming in a year or two to the US. I need to move to the states because the friggin skylines dont cover Canada's safty ratings cause they are too high.I read a post saying that he got his skyline for $15 !!!!!!!!!! thats not bad :D :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: yeah I know you want one. If anyone is a true lover of a skyline, they will buy one.:smoker:

Originally posted by tyhel
I need to move to the states because the friggin skylines dont cover Canada's safty ratings cause they are too high.

U.S. and Canada safety ratings are about the same, notice how we don't get all the same cars that they don't get

plus if you want a skyline, you can buy it from motorex and just drive it over to Canada without a problem, just like buying any other car in the U.S. and bringing it over

:frog: Not quite how it works. If I was to bring over a pontiac grand am then I would need to change the doors at $500 a piece and a couple of other things. You see now.:(

i know people that have brought over cars from the U.S. without a problem..... why would you have to change the doors?
could you hook me up with a link to somewhere where it says you have to do that?

anyway, you can still bring over a skyline from the U.S. just like any other car

:rolleyes: a lot of trucks and cars you can but some you cant. a chevrolet S-10 can be took without a problem but some you might as well change the whole car.:devil: :licker: :smoker: :flash: :bloated: :alien: :mad: :p :o :cool: :D :)

Wow dude you think a mil. I bet you any amount of money I could set up shop just as motorex for under a Million. By the way a little bird told me that there just might be some competition with motorex in 2006-2007. Just to let you guys know. :smokin:

Holy crap!

This loser's first post and it's a reply to a 3 year old thread!

And if that wasn't enough, he claims to have some "inside info" on competition from motorex in the next few years.

I have one word for you dude... DUH!!!

First impressions are everything and that being the case, you better create another account and start over moron. You just took the "stupid noob" stereotype to a whole new level.

...and he talks to birds..

:lol: