Things you can do with the engine

For example, you can program it to play music (http://astro.temple.edu/~kmr/Chauffe2.mp3)

This is the Asiatech engine (equipping the Minardi team in 2002) at the US GP.

;)

enjoy,
Alex

Hi Alex ;) ,

I'm sure the Asiatech does sound like music, but the link didn't work... :(

Cheers,
Guido

Works fine for me, Guido :confused:

Try clicking it with the right mouse button and "save target as..." - i just tried it and the link seems well and truly alive.

Alex

right clicking did the trick, Thanks man!

That's really cool! Never heard an F-1 engine that way!!

You're most welcome!

Are the two of us the only ones interested in F1 and Rally on AF??? :confused:

Originally posted by ales

Are the two of us the only ones interested in F1 and Rally on AF??? :confused:

I'm getting strongly the impression here, yes! Maybe it's time to start as moderators here and kick some ass! :D :rolleyes: :D

Originally posted by huudo


I'm getting strongly the impression here, yes! Maybe it's time to start as moderators here and kick some ass! :D :rolleyes: :D

;) I submitted my candidacy for becoming a moderator in F1 and Rally :)

I like F1 too!
But with the season over...most teams testing and keeping their mouths shut, there's not much news.

Anyways, what do you think of Honda's strategy for testing?

They're supposedly testing just a few times until the season begins again while most the other teams are testing several hundred times.

Recipe for doom or a secret to success?

Where did you hear that about Honda (BAR)? I don't think they'll be testing any less than other midfield teams, actually, they'll be testing more than some, as Minardi, Jordan, and Renault decided to limit their tresting during the year in favour of a two-hour session on Friday.

And there is much happening in the off-season as well. Like politics :D

Cool MP3 Alex! Minardi the great entertainers, bet the Asiatech guys didn't get up to such things when they worked for Tom Walkinshaw!

Originally posted by ales
Are the two of us the only ones interested in F1 and Rally on AF??? :confused:

I used to be a total Formula One fanatic but I've become very dissillusioned with the current state of the series. It has been a steady slide downhill since they limited the cars's track width to 180cm and imposed grooved rubber. With some of the recent decisions comming from Bernie and Max I can only assume they are having a laugh at all of us, seeing just how far they have to push it before the general public get the joke!

I just hope my first love, WRC doesn't head down the same path. With the new points system and dropping the Safari, it could be time to get worried.

I think when Yoong got a drive in F1 a lot of people started to really worry. I'm all for wider cars, definitely slick tyres, and banning two-way telemetry. As for the traction control issue, I am sort of torn on it: I want to see it go, on the other hand F1 should be the pinacle of both drivers (hence TC should be removed) and machinery and technology (hence TC should stay). And I'd like them to go back to semi-automatic gearboxes as well.

Alex

Originally posted by ales
I think when Yoong got a drive in F1 a lot of people started to really worry.

Alex

Hey, compared to guys like Taki Inoue and Jean-Denis Deletraz, Yoong is an absolute wizard behind the wheel! One Bernie Ecclestone even tried to qualify for a GP once, bet he was a shocker, probably had trouble seeing over the steering wheel!

F1 has always had it's share of pay or "Gentleman" drivers, that is not a problem to me. Remember that drivers like Lauda and (indirectly) Schumacher started out with pay drives!

It's not the drivers that are a problem it's the overriding commercial preoccupation and the disregard of history and tradition that gets my goat. Really wears you down after a while, for instance look at what they did to Hockenhiem last year and now Spa is off the calendar this year. Where will it end?

Reckon we've barstardized this threah enough yet? :silly2:

My thread, I do what I want!!! :D:D:D

I can definitely subscribe to your poin of view - this little (tm) sign that now appears everywhere after "Formula 1" or "F1" are mentioned is really bugging me - it shows what F1 is becoming.

The example of Yoong was brought not because he was a pay driver (nothing wrong with that), but because he can't drive. Had there been no driver aids he would not have made it into 107% much much much more often. The cars are indeed too easy to drive.

Sorry to come on a bit strong with my negative view of F1. There are a lot of people who still enjoy it and I don't want to upset them. But if you like F1 now - you'd have loved to 15-20 years ago, when I first got into it! I still think the cars of the early ninties and late sixties were the best ever. Got me some models from those eras to build!

Hey Alex nice idea to put the links in you sig, good way to drum up bussiness for the WRC and F1 fourms!

Originally posted by RallyRaider

Hey Alex nice idea to put the links in you sig, good way to drum up bussiness for the WRC and F1 fourms!

;)

Also note Guido's sig ;) But the idea was mine!!! :devil: :p

And don't worry, I'm enjoying F1 immensely whatever happens and whatever anyone might say. I'm a Schumacher fan, and after five LONG years of wait, I can definitely see nothing wrong with Ferrari dominating. And remember, that this wait has been 20 years for Ferrari.

I still beliee that the current turmoil has a lot to dowith sour grapes, especially coming form the British teams and fans. I can understand they becoming hysterical, I, on the other hand will be enjoying the upcoming season. Even if the ferrari dominance continues (though I have a sneaky suspicion that MacLaren have something big up their sleeve), I'll be enjoying battles further down the pack. But then again, I'm a die-hard F1 fan, and would be passionately watching almost anything with the name F1(tm) :) What can you expect for the guy who considers the finish of Suzuka 2000 one of the most emotional moments of his life, certainly in the top 3!!! :eek:

But suzuka 2000 was a fix!

erm ... what do you mean???

Bridgestone, by bringing the tyres they did, fixed the result!

Originally posted by RallyRaider
Bridgestone, by bringing the tyres they did, fixed the result!

Doubt it.

Besides, surely Macs wouldn't have stayed with Bridgestone in 2001 in that case!

And another thing is taht I hadn't heard that one before, and I read almost everything F1-related on the net and on 3 forums.

Believe it! :eek:

At every race since Brigestone entered F1 they have bought two tyre compounds to each race - except that one. Instead they bought a singe new compound that only Ferrari had tested extensively. Of course the PR blurb was that this was a revolutionary new construction that was much faster than the older tyres, and I guess that may have been partly true. However the title decider is not the place to be screwing with the results by changing the rules by which the game is played.

Bridgestone must have been after the prestige of carrying Ferrari to their first drivers title in 20 years at their home track Suzuka. They couldn't wait for things to happen in Sepang. I could also be nasty and say that Schumi has a history of choking when things go down to the wire and all involved wanted to avoid that happening again :silly2: Plus there is also the commercial aspect that all Ferrari road cars come fitted with what type of tyre?

And in fact McLaren did change to Michelin at the earliest opportunity! :eek2:

With F1 these day you have to learn to read between the lines. Remember it is a bussiness not a sport. The teams are not really teams but "franchises". Bernie ensures the media never tell the real story.

MacLaren could have changed in 2001.

Not really, Michelin were focusing on a Williams and the contracts were already written up. McLaren were in a lose/lose situation.

If this story had been true (which I don't think it is, nothing personal), McLaren would have changed to Michelin if anything, purely for the matter of honour and dignity. And we all know how much contracts mean nowadays.

Nothing personal Alex!

Tyres are the most important part of any racecar. They are the reason the McLaren MP4/13 and /14 were so good and why the Ferrari F1-2000 to 2002 series are dominant at the moment.

Michael Schumacher is not the most important piece in the Championship winning Ferrari puzzle - Bridgestone, with their typically Japanese business practices, are!

I hope I don't offend anyone because there is nothing really wrong with their way of doing business. The primary aim is to win, some are just prepared to go to more lengths than others.

As for McLaren changing remember Ron Denis is a purely pragmatic man, having achieved the aim of a Ferrari title he was probably promised a fair go next year. Also remember the Michelins were an unknown quantity, having been out of the sport for so long they were practically brand new to it. Michelin may not even have had the capacity to supply and extra team. Sticking with Bridgestone, no matter how much it hurt was his best option for 2001.

Originally posted by ales
Where did you hear that about Honda (BAR)?

I think it was an article on www.vtec.net

It was about a month ago? So you'll have to dig for it...sorry.

I don't find anything wrong with having differnt opinions. But I also remember Ferrari claiming Bridgestone were favouring McLaren early in the 2000 season. Which is hardly true, but I believed it at the time ;)

And while tyres are some of the most important components of the F1 car, but it has to work as an integral part of the package (hate this word after Ron Dennis :p), and at the same time, it is the driver that makes the difference when the car is not up to it (97, 98, and even more so 96).

Hell, even Frank Williams considers MS, and not Bridgestone and/or Michelin, his main obstacle (and has repeatedly said so).

Originally posted by ales
Hell, even Frank Williams considers MS, and not Bridgestone and/or Michelin, his main obstacle (and has repeatedly said so).

If he could beat Rubens that would almost make sense! But he cant even seem to do that can he?

Originally posted by RallyRaider


If he could beat Rubens that would almost make sense! But he cant even seem to do that can he?

I still trust his opinion ;)

Originally posted by ales


I still trust his opinion ;)

In spite of the evidence? I admire your trusting nature :o

Frank Williams is an idolistic (not for me, but for most) figure in Formula 1 racing, so yes, I trust his opinion.

There is reason he wanted MS to drive for him, but couldn't come up with the cash :rolleyes:

Yeah I used to admire Frank, but he has been talking too much crap lately. Might be a bit of a demarcation issue - that used to be Patrick Head's job :p

If you can, download the video, the link to which I posted in another thread. You get a shot of Head at the US GP after that incident :D

Which video, which thread?

The video in this thread (http://139.81.142.25/vbulletin/t80779.html) :p

43 Meg... that might take me a while. Believe it or not I'm still using a 33.6 kbps modem! And I just rememberd I have to download some Dream Theater bootlegs too!

Originally posted by RallyRaider
43 Meg... that might take me a while. Believe it or not I'm still using a 33.6 kbps modem!

I have neer had any other modem ;)

I changed from 33.6 to ADSL :)

Do you have to pay per minute you're connected to the internet via the phoneline?

ADSL - you lucky, lucky bastard :flipa: :silly2:

Nah my internet plan is unlimited, just very slow. If I need to download something I just leave it going overnight and it is there for me in the morning - sometime it takes a couple of nights!

Is there a moderator for this forum? We have strayed well off topic now! :silly:

There is a moderator here, but I have never seen him post anything here (and he hasn't!).

As I mentioned, I sent a request to make a me a mod of the F1 and the Rally forums, so I'm hoping for a favourable decision (if not, tough luck).

But it's enough thread bastardizing for my por soul for this day, even though it is my own thread :) I'm going to sleep now.

We'll continue our discussions later. In the meantime, why don't you post something fun and/or interesting and informative in either the F1 or the rally forum? Should make a nice reading in the morning ;)

Alex

hehe..
Good thing I have DSL:D
14% right now...can't wait.

I'm another AF'r that enjoy's F1 and WRC. Sure, I bitch about the rules and the stupid ass things that Bernie does, but hey, it's still F1!

Some of my thoughts:

Rubens needs to go, Ferrari should be looking further ahead driver wise, Schuey will be gone sooner or later. Don't understand signing Ruby again.

Tires weren't equal even when all teams were Bridgestone.

Toyota should have kept Salo.

Pissed about Spa being gone!

Ron should have replaced DC.

Ferrari will dominate again in 2003.

Originally posted by Veyron

Rubens needs to go, Ferrari should be looking further ahead driver wise, Schuey will be gone sooner or later. Don't understand signing Ruby again.


I don't see anything wrong with Rubens, he;s a good nr 2 driver.

Originally posted by Veyron
Tires weren't equal even when all teams were Bridgestone.


Bridgestone were allowed to take 2 compound to every race and these compounds were equally available to all teams. If some teams weren't abl to adapt their chassis to the tyres and/or work closer with Bridgestone - tough luck! Same with Michelin with Williams and McLaren - the tyre suited McLaren better (in the race), and I only can see it as Williams's fault taht their cars used the tyres up too quickly. And even with that disadvantage they finished ahead o the Macs.

Originally posted by Veyron
Toyota should have kept Salo.



Yes, as well as giving McNish another year.

Originally posted by Veyron

Pissed about Spa being gone!



Who isn't :mad: :devil:

Originally posted by Veyron
about Spa being gone!

Ron should have replaced DC.


Definitely! (can't say I'm impartial on this issue as I really dislike the guy)

Originally posted by Veyron
Ferrari will dominate again in 2003.

Hope so! ;)

I don't see anything wrong with Rubens, he;s a good nr 2 driver.

No.2 yes, but Ferrari need to be grooming a number one, not sure who that would be at this point. Maybe Fisi, he seems to have some maturety and quickness.:)

I would think more in line of Montoya - Kimi - Massa (don't know why), but fisi is definitely not out of question. That is, if he is not too old be then.

And why should Ferrari groom anyone - they certainly were happy to leave the Schumacher grooming thing to Benetton :):silly:

And why should Ferrari groom anyone - they certainly were happy to leave the Schumacher grooming thing to Benetton

Ah yes, but did they just get a driver or whole team? Ferrari wanted the total package because they proved to be championship worthy. When Schuey leaves, there will be some of those people retiring too, so they need to hire the best driver they can, and some other personnel to learn all they can from this crew before they're gone. Ferrari would not have been as successful with the hiring of Schuey only.:)

That's why it's a shame they didn't get Kimi. I think it would've been all Ferrari even after this Schumacher era; or maybe if they get Montoya...

or maybe if they get Montoya...

I don't think Montoya is that much of a championship contender, he's too hot headed, and I believe he and Frank will be on bad terms before this season is finished. He is quick, and very talented but it takes more that than that. Yes, I know how he did in CART, that is different.:rolleyes:

That's exactly it though!
Montoya is forced to drive wreckless b/c his car is nowhere near the Ferraris.

Now, I didn't watch F1 when Schumacher wasn't on Ferrari yet; but I'm going to make a BIG assumption that he drove forcefully too, just as Montoya does now, to compete with the big teams.

Ales, did you watch F1 when Schumacher was on Bennetton?
If so, how did he drive?

Yes, I did watch him at Benetton, and at the beginning of his career he was quite hot-headed as well. But at the same time he was able to have races in inferior machinery that awed the spectators. That's what bought me ;)

AS for Montoya, I do agree!!! I used to really really like him when he was in F3000 and CART, his car control in CART was quite amazing at times, but when he came into F1 all the hype started. Next Schumacher, next Senna, both of them combined and 2 times better, etc. And he seemed to start to believe that himself Now there would be nothing wrong with that if he had something besides a single win (at the weekend when MS, as I strongly believe, was in no mood to drive at all), a few poles and a couple of overtaking maneuvres. At the same time he is quick, but he is not consistent, and sometimes he plain and simple makes up the numbers (Hungary 2002 :rolleyes: )

That's true. I think if Williams provides him with a better car, he'll be more consistent; that's probably why Schumi is so calm, b/c he knows his car is the best:p

Or, maybe Coulthard's right about him, all balls and no brains:D

schumacher is way better pilot than montoya!

Originally posted by gemballa
schumacher is way better pilot than montoya!

Michael or Ralf?!:D *j/k*
I think it's implied now...

It's hard to say, how long has Michael raced now?