SOHC VTEC swap
civicHBsi91
12-26-2002, 10:03 PM
i went to two different shops today and the 1st one wanted 1,700 to 2,200$ for a SOHC VTEC swap i was like :eek: and just said thanks and left so i went to another shop and they wanted 1,200 to 1,500 and then i asked about a zc and they said 2,500 i was like jesus christ and i just said thanx and left, is this outrageous for yall? im thinkin about doin it myself now cuz i think thats a bunch of shyt, and does anyone have just the d16z6 or y8 engine and ecu they want to sell? oh ill go check the classifieds, thanks for any input
kris
12-26-2002, 10:13 PM
For half that price I'm sure some of us would fly out and put it in for you. ;)
FourthGenHatch
12-26-2002, 10:16 PM
In California they leave out SOHC VTEC engines in hopes people will steal them. They are worth no more than $500. They bolt right in for the most part. Wiring is the hard part, I've heard it's like 50 wires, but if you know where everything is supposed to go it's no big deal.
civicHBsi91
12-26-2002, 10:29 PM
For half that price I'm sure some of us would fly out and put it in for you.
wanna fly out and put it in for me? :D , im sure i can manage....im no mechanic but im trying im learning, im still young, i can do more than anyone my age around here anyway, hmmmm wait my grandmother said she was givin up her car in like may or march......one of them, ill see if i can get it from her use that to get around do the swap myself take my time and then sell that when im done and buy a turbo kit :D thanks for the input kris and fourth
wanna fly out and put it in for me? :D , im sure i can manage....im no mechanic but im trying im learning, im still young, i can do more than anyone my age around here anyway, hmmmm wait my grandmother said she was givin up her car in like may or march......one of them, ill see if i can get it from her use that to get around do the swap myself take my time and then sell that when im done and buy a turbo kit :D thanks for the input kris and fourth
kris
12-26-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
wanna fly out and put it in for me? :D , im sure i can manage....im no mechanic but im trying im learning, im still young, i can do more than anyone my age around here anyway, hmmmm wait my grandmother said she was givin up her car in like may or march......one of them, ill see if i can get it from her use that to get around do the swap myself take my time and then sell that when im done and buy a turbo kit :D thanks for the input kris and fourth
Doing it yourself is a great way to learn, if you take your time. :D
wanna fly out and put it in for me? :D , im sure i can manage....im no mechanic but im trying im learning, im still young, i can do more than anyone my age around here anyway, hmmmm wait my grandmother said she was givin up her car in like may or march......one of them, ill see if i can get it from her use that to get around do the swap myself take my time and then sell that when im done and buy a turbo kit :D thanks for the input kris and fourth
Doing it yourself is a great way to learn, if you take your time. :D
amy@af
12-26-2002, 11:52 PM
it is a really easy install. as easy as replacing the engine you have. the abg. install price should be around $500. i say plan to take 2 or 3 days....take your time and do it :) we can all help talk ya through it if you get in a trouble spot
GTA
12-26-2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
In California they leave out SOHC VTEC engines in hopes people will steal them.
Hmm......i really wonder if thats true...i should go check around some shops
In California they leave out SOHC VTEC engines in hopes people will steal them.
Hmm......i really wonder if thats true...i should go check around some shops
Tony
12-26-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
In California they leave out SOHC VTEC engines in hopes people will steal them. They are worth no more than $500. They bolt right in for the most part. Wiring is the hard part, I've heard it's like 50 wires, but if you know where everything is supposed to go it's no big deal.
Steal one for me!!!! I need a new engine to rebuild, this one is about to go, need to rebuild it bad.
In California they leave out SOHC VTEC engines in hopes people will steal them. They are worth no more than $500. They bolt right in for the most part. Wiring is the hard part, I've heard it's like 50 wires, but if you know where everything is supposed to go it's no big deal.
Steal one for me!!!! I need a new engine to rebuild, this one is about to go, need to rebuild it bad.
civicHBsi91
12-26-2002, 11:59 PM
we can all help talk ya through it if you get in a trouble spot
i know this, thats why i come here, ive learned so much here, my knowledge has increased alot on cars, i just havent had the chance for the hands on experience with some stuff yet, and my dad is good with wiring so wiring the vtec shouldent be that bad
i know this, thats why i come here, ive learned so much here, my knowledge has increased alot on cars, i just havent had the chance for the hands on experience with some stuff yet, and my dad is good with wiring so wiring the vtec shouldent be that bad
Tony
12-27-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
i know this, thats why i come here, ive learned so much here, my knowledge has increased alot on cars, i just havent had the chance for the hands on experience with some stuff yet, and my dad is good with wiring so wiring the vtec shouldent be that bad
isnt that the truth. I have also learned a lot from just reading what everyone has said in here. I have't got that much experience with a lot of it, but one day I shall. I am good with wiring though, wired up a bunch of things in cars that I didn't know exactly what wire was what. Done that with too many radios, dumbasses who cut the damn wire harness. I want to shoot everyone of them....well in the leg....or foot....or big toe, big toe would be good, it would be funny.....oh sorry...im rambling....damn i need to go to sleep.....AF so addicting.....damn
i know this, thats why i come here, ive learned so much here, my knowledge has increased alot on cars, i just havent had the chance for the hands on experience with some stuff yet, and my dad is good with wiring so wiring the vtec shouldent be that bad
isnt that the truth. I have also learned a lot from just reading what everyone has said in here. I have't got that much experience with a lot of it, but one day I shall. I am good with wiring though, wired up a bunch of things in cars that I didn't know exactly what wire was what. Done that with too many radios, dumbasses who cut the damn wire harness. I want to shoot everyone of them....well in the leg....or foot....or big toe, big toe would be good, it would be funny.....oh sorry...im rambling....damn i need to go to sleep.....AF so addicting.....damn
91civicDXdude
12-27-2002, 12:06 PM
the engine will bolt right in using your stock transmission/clutch/pressureplate/flywheel. If you have an HF or Si model, all you have to do is run the wiring to activate VTEC. a DX on the other hand will have to be converted to MPFI which if you do a search on this forum you will find detailed instructions.
SOHC VTEC is a very good engine swap. You will feel a lot of power over your stock engine. Good Luck, and dont forget to ask for help if you need it.
SOHC VTEC is a very good engine swap. You will feel a lot of power over your stock engine. Good Luck, and dont forget to ask for help if you need it.
FourthGenHatch
12-27-2002, 12:46 PM
I don't live in California so I can't "steal" them. But the Import Scene is obviously the biggest there and the 6th Gen Civic is the most popular and the EXs had SOHC VTEC and 5th Gen Civic EXs and Sis had SOHC VTEC. So everytime those cars go in for B16As and stuff they have all these engines left over.
Tony
12-27-2002, 03:49 PM
yea, they should just ship the old SOHC VTECs to the less fortunate people...like me.
H4Bangin
12-28-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by 88CiViC_DX
Hmm......i really wonder if thats true...i should go check around some shops
me too!!
Hmm......i really wonder if thats true...i should go check around some shops
me too!!
mellowboy
12-28-2002, 04:04 AM
If your lookin for a sohc v-tec...i'm sure theres plenty of ppl sellin them on www.hondaclassifieds.com and www.thepartstrader.com
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civicHBsi91
12-28-2002, 04:20 AM
wooohooo thanx mellow, i found someone with a motor in md on hondacassifieds.com, i emailed him just waiting on a reply thanx for the site mellow!!!!!! :D
erbinone
12-28-2002, 03:00 PM
That's a crazy price for that swap! I paid $2600 for a B16A1 swap & they had to wire my STD harness for the MPFI & I got a Type R header and a mugen chipped ECU.
civicHBsi91
12-28-2002, 03:08 PM
I paid $2600 for a B16A1 swap & they had to wire my STD harness for the MPFI & I got a Type R header and a mugen chipped ECU
you live in LA they do those swaps like acouple times a day like everyshop, around here swaps arent as common i mean around here most shops make their money off of puttin on suspension shyt and bodykits, i dunno im gonna keep goin to gw motorsports i like them, ill just do my swap myself and get my parts from there
you live in LA they do those swaps like acouple times a day like everyshop, around here swaps arent as common i mean around here most shops make their money off of puttin on suspension shyt and bodykits, i dunno im gonna keep goin to gw motorsports i like them, ill just do my swap myself and get my parts from there
erbinone
12-28-2002, 04:02 PM
That's true... yeah... if you do it yourself... much respect! I forget sometimes that L.A. is weird like that. SOHC VTEC swap would be pretty dope though. Try hmotorsonline (http://hmotorsonline.com) that guy is pretty dope.
civicHBsi91
12-28-2002, 04:14 PM
last time i checked he had the jdm d15 SOHC VTEC, i wanna pass emissions with no problems i dont know if that would pass as easy as our SOHC VTEC
liquid8
04-14-2003, 05:20 PM
i was just quoted 1000 for a d16z6 into my hatchback. what do you guys think of that price?? should i look to buy it off of someone or go to a salvage yard or something?
nicks91civicsi
04-14-2003, 05:33 PM
I dont see why you wouldnt just get a zc swap if you have a si?!! if you have an si all you have to do is switch the motor and your done. thats it. Iv done it. if you have a dx then its different but for an si you just gotta switch them out. it doesnt get any easier. plus you get more power stock than a sohc vtec and alot more potential for future power cuz of the DOHC. It amazes me to see how many people do these SOHC swaps when the ZC's are so cheap and have so much more potential to build on. not to mention the extra power stock. Go to Nippon-motors.com they import all kinds of used japanese motors for cheap.
Melt
04-14-2003, 05:53 PM
ok ... the thread title wasnt DOHC vs SOHC ... nor was it "should I put a d16z6 into my car" so all you naysayers can just STFU and not even comment up in here ... im so tired of every D-series thread or ZC thread turning into some sort of war so here I am posting in here to stop this shit before it happens. If I was gonna do another swap it would probably be a z6 cause im too cheap to change around all those mounts and shit and the z6 would be decent for the type of driving I do which is mostly commuting.
gunnmen01
04-14-2003, 06:13 PM
Damn this is an OLD thread...i was reading it an it started to sound familair.....
gunnmen01
gunnmen01
nicks91civicsi
04-14-2003, 06:17 PM
lol damn this is old...i need to start cheacking dates on these damn things...why people dig these things up.....
amy@af
04-14-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by nicks91civicsi
I dont see why you wouldnt just get a zc swap if you have a si?!! if you have an si all you have to do is switch the motor and your done. thats it. Iv done it. if you have a dx then its different but for an si you just gotta switch them out. it doesnt get any easier. plus you get more power stock than a sohc vtec and alot more potential for future power cuz of the DOHC. It amazes me to see how many people do these SOHC swaps when the ZC's are so cheap and have so much more potential to build on. not to mention the extra power stock. Go to Nippon-motors.com they import all kinds of used japanese motors for cheap.
just like the ZC the sohc vtec drops right in. it is not any harder or easier of a swap.
i have no idea where you get that the zc has more stock power? it is rated with 10hp (not even whp) and 2 ft pound of torque more than the y8. you stick the y8 in a hatch and a zc in a hatch and check the whp, and it will be a lot closer. the sohc vtec has the same potential as the zc. how can you say the zc is so much cheaper? i got my y8 out of a '00 EX with only 12,000 for $500. it's near impossible to find a zc that has been sitting less than 2 years (zc are famous for needing rebuilt....nippon won't even warrenty their ZC).
don't take this wrong nicks91civicsi but really you should do some reasearch. i have seen dohc zc's get smoked by a sohc d16a6 no vtec. so anything is possible.
that is great if you have a zc and you love it. i have a sohc vtec and i love it. but you will never hear me say a sohc vtec is better or less of an engine than a zc. the engines are extremely close in specs.....a better driver makes the difference in who wins. what engine is better to get....depends on the person buying it and there preferences. i say that with all honesty and being completely serious
you really should broaden your horizons and check into the sohc vtec before you so quickly diss it. you don't have to own one to appreciate one. saying a zc is better just because you have one isn't giving out fact but rather opinion. in this thread they were looking for facts on the sohc vtec not opinion on the zc.....feel me?
I dont see why you wouldnt just get a zc swap if you have a si?!! if you have an si all you have to do is switch the motor and your done. thats it. Iv done it. if you have a dx then its different but for an si you just gotta switch them out. it doesnt get any easier. plus you get more power stock than a sohc vtec and alot more potential for future power cuz of the DOHC. It amazes me to see how many people do these SOHC swaps when the ZC's are so cheap and have so much more potential to build on. not to mention the extra power stock. Go to Nippon-motors.com they import all kinds of used japanese motors for cheap.
just like the ZC the sohc vtec drops right in. it is not any harder or easier of a swap.
i have no idea where you get that the zc has more stock power? it is rated with 10hp (not even whp) and 2 ft pound of torque more than the y8. you stick the y8 in a hatch and a zc in a hatch and check the whp, and it will be a lot closer. the sohc vtec has the same potential as the zc. how can you say the zc is so much cheaper? i got my y8 out of a '00 EX with only 12,000 for $500. it's near impossible to find a zc that has been sitting less than 2 years (zc are famous for needing rebuilt....nippon won't even warrenty their ZC).
don't take this wrong nicks91civicsi but really you should do some reasearch. i have seen dohc zc's get smoked by a sohc d16a6 no vtec. so anything is possible.
that is great if you have a zc and you love it. i have a sohc vtec and i love it. but you will never hear me say a sohc vtec is better or less of an engine than a zc. the engines are extremely close in specs.....a better driver makes the difference in who wins. what engine is better to get....depends on the person buying it and there preferences. i say that with all honesty and being completely serious
you really should broaden your horizons and check into the sohc vtec before you so quickly diss it. you don't have to own one to appreciate one. saying a zc is better just because you have one isn't giving out fact but rather opinion. in this thread they were looking for facts on the sohc vtec not opinion on the zc.....feel me?
amy@af
04-14-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Melt
If I was gonna do another swap it would probably be a z6 cause im too cheap to change around all those mounts and shit and the z6 would be decent for the type of driving I do which is mostly commuting.
ummm, didn't you like buy that car with that replacement (not engine swap) engine? :silly2:
yes there is a difference....replacement engine is what they stick in when your engine has or is about to die = nothing related to performance gain. engine swap is when you pull the stock engine with the sole purpose of performance gain.
don't get all bent out of shape. just calling it as i see it......and i see it as funny when you call it a swap when you bought it like that ;)
If I was gonna do another swap it would probably be a z6 cause im too cheap to change around all those mounts and shit and the z6 would be decent for the type of driving I do which is mostly commuting.
ummm, didn't you like buy that car with that replacement (not engine swap) engine? :silly2:
yes there is a difference....replacement engine is what they stick in when your engine has or is about to die = nothing related to performance gain. engine swap is when you pull the stock engine with the sole purpose of performance gain.
don't get all bent out of shape. just calling it as i see it......and i see it as funny when you call it a swap when you bought it like that ;)
Melt
04-14-2003, 08:26 PM
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amy@af
04-14-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Melt
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all i'm saying is you talk like you personally did some high performance swap into your sedan....
let me put it to you this way. we are getting ready to pull out the y8 and stick an a6 in. it isn't even my old a6 that came in the Si. after the a6 is in wouldn't it sound funny if i was saying "i have a d16a6 swap" when in reality it's just a replacement engine *until the y8 is swapped back in*
see the difference?
i guess thats why i find it silly you call yours a swap. i bet the people who had it installed didn't even know it was a sohc zc :confused:
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all i'm saying is you talk like you personally did some high performance swap into your sedan....
let me put it to you this way. we are getting ready to pull out the y8 and stick an a6 in. it isn't even my old a6 that came in the Si. after the a6 is in wouldn't it sound funny if i was saying "i have a d16a6 swap" when in reality it's just a replacement engine *until the y8 is swapped back in*
see the difference?
i guess thats why i find it silly you call yours a swap. i bet the people who had it installed didn't even know it was a sohc zc :confused:
Jerren
04-14-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by kris
Doing it yourself is a great way to learn, if you take your time. :D
thats only when you have a second car.
Doing it yourself is a great way to learn, if you take your time. :D
thats only when you have a second car.
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