V6 Tib

I was cruising on the interstate comming back from down town Charleston when I passed by a new V6 Tib. I let him catch up to me and we sat still beside each other (I was waiting for him to hit it) at 70mph. He hit it and we were off, I kept inching foward in third and when I 3-4 shifted I had about a car length on him. I didn't fly by but I was really suprised. I thought they had more umph in them. I had a full setup, full spare, full gas tank, and full stomach, with a full wife. 1 V6 tib owned!

damn korean cars are slow as shit

So are maximas...now, im not sayin korean cars are nice...nor are they fast by any means (im saying this, an i am korean). but if u are going to make a broad statement like that, then so will i. MAXIMAS ARE SLOW AS POOP.

if u look at the stats of the cars, his car should beat it. there is no surprise there. u have more power, and more torque in a car that weighs almost equal.

good kill still 1sikmax. i jus don't like ppl who make comments like that. im taking nothin away from ur post or ur kill. :D

Ahh, the new Tiburon. A bigger disappointment perhaps has never been seen in its price range. The styling is nice, if horribly cribbed from the elegant Ferrari 456GT, and the specs all say that it should be a great pocket rocket, but everything I've seen points to a car that's undersprung, loosely geared, and overweight.

*sigh* How long until the Tiburon becomes a car for non-posers? Thanks for blowing one off. It keeps the engineers working when they get embarrassed.

Ive seen a V6 tiburon take out a gsrs, SIs, and 1.8t gtis. Maybe the one you raced was an automatic or was perhaps laden with luggage. It also has very good struts. It really isnt a bad deal at 18k.

I dont see any similarity between the tib and the 456gt. Its a hatch.

The side sculpting, long hood-short deck shape, and egg-crate front grille were all swiped (even according to the Hyundai styling department) from the Ferrari 456GT.

If Mazda can get a 20K Protege to run through the 60ft slalom as fast as a Porsche 911, then Hyundai should be able to figure out how to eliminate the mulish understeer and excessive body lean that the current Tiburon has.

You subscribe to R&T as well I see :D

Tiburons are okay, but they're still not that fast... It may have a bigger engine than the other cars in it's segment, but it's still in that segment. Enter the SRT4 and new SVT Focus, as well as the Mazdaspeed Protege, and it's left lacking.

With 3 new factory turbocharged cars in the arena, it's facing some very stiff competition. I still maintain that the GTI is the way to go, with factory Audi stuff available for 230hp, under warranty. 1.8t all the way!

Originally posted by Fliquer
Ive seen a V6 tiburon take out a gsrs, SIs, and 1.8t gtis. Maybe the one you raced was an automatic or was perhaps laden with luggage. It also has very good struts. It really isnt a bad deal at 18k.

:confused: wuts ur point? heh, never said it was impossible. stock vs stock tho, good luck. with the weight of it...it's gonna take a better driver in the tib to beat it.

Just....beat your children.

Only sayin the new tibs weaknesses can be found in most of the cars sharing its niche, including the GTI ;) . I think "A bigger disappointment perhaps has never been seen in its price range" is an exaggeration, thats all. Its actually much improved from the previous model. SCC rated it 7th out of nine :/ , beating the new SI and 1.8t.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
MAXIMAS ARE SLOW AS POOP.

I disagree with that statement....for a family sedan, not designed to be a sports car, and for the price, they are a very nice car, and have very respectable performance.....i feel the high end Altima's are a better bargain though.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00


:confused: wuts ur point? heh, never said it was impossible. stock vs stock tho, good luck. with the weight of it...it's gonna take a better driver in the tib to beat it.

I think his point was a stock Tiburon took out other stock cars, including, gasp, an Integra GSR, and the 1.8T Golf. I'm much more impressed by the 1.8T Golf than by the Acura, sure it's got high end horsepower, it's also got low end torque, and lot's of it :D Also, put $1000 into either car and see which one is faster. Go VW! (sorry DOHC)

I didn't say that a tib couldn't beat an integra. i kno the car, an wut it can do. u gasp as if i think the car is unbeatable. i kno that the integra has a huge problem in the torque area, but what honda doesn't? the new gti's aren't all that u've made them out to be. go ahead, $1000 in each car, its jus gonna come down to what each person puts into them. neither is going to have much of an advantage, i'll give it probably::gasp:: to the gti, simply because of the way honda tunes their motors. u can put a full i/h/e (this is only one of MANY ways to go), onto most cars, an you'll see that the power gains will be much higher than that on a honda. the b' series motors were made by honda to be pushing the most amount of power possible, making it a lot tougher (or atleast more expensive) to create usable power. w/ i/h/e on my car, u feel hardly any difference from the stock, other than a little more top end pull. whereas, ppl i kno with cars like altimas, or gti's, have much more noticable power, both at high, and low rpm. i am a honda entusiast, an so i come off biased at times, but i still know they can be beaten, an that other cars are better for tuning. to all their own i guess eh?

jus one more thing in this whole ramble. since when does low end torque really matter that much, except off the line, or if u are pushing over 100 more thoughout the powerband? a gti beats a honda off the line, but the honda catches it during vtec? no? i thought racing was who got to the end 1st, not who got the early lead. jus a guess tho, but thats the way i understand it. IM NOT SAYING THE GTI WOULD LOSE ALL THE TIME! :D . jus simply that the low torque isn't going to matter much, if it can't match the top end pull.

Just wanted to make sure you weren't one of these kids who would go off screaming about how there's no way a stock Hyundai could beat an Integra ;)

I like the 1.8T GTIs because the factory exhaust system flows quite well, and you don't need to replace the factory box filter, because it will flow about as well as any aftermarket piece you can get.

That frees up money for things like boost controllers, suspension upgrades, and other areas where you see a real increase in performance. That's the big reason I like the GTI, that and it's fluid powerband that gives you excellent power at any engine speed.

Originally posted by dbartoschek


I disagree with that statement....for a family sedan, not designed to be a sports car

not designed to be a sports car???? remember to window sticker in the maximas....4DSC (4 door sports car):D

i think no matter what Nissan calls the maxima, it wasnt designed to be a sports car (sedan)

i believe that title goes to names like ///M5, //S4, etc.

Hyundai lied about the HP on the Tiburon and a lot of other cars and is in big trouble because of it. They are freaking slow.

Nice kill! :)

i think the reason why the tiburon beat all those cars are becasue those guys can't drive. i clearly drive a pretty slow car. but i was able to smoke a car that was beating GS-R's, SE-R spec V, 1.8T, and Si's by 3 cars!! 3 cars!!!! that proves how bad those other guys are. its all in the skill level. maybe the guy in the tiburon is a good drive and the other guys aren't as good. and feel that they didn't need to improve their skills since they already drive a quick car (for import standards). but for people like me who drive slower cars, we are forced to drive better to catch up to the other guys. and of course HP isn't everything. i think power delievery and gear ratios matter more then just pure out HP.

Yeah there is a lot, a lot of horrible drivers out there. When I first got my Z and I had my exhaust done, it draws a lot of attention because it is so frikin' loud. Well this guy in a 95-96 Mustang GT 4.6 goes to racing me. We raced about 6 times down Baymeadows road at 1:30. I took him 5 out of the 6! He should have worked me! I just don't understand?!

thank you demon ZX i rest my case. you can't really tell which car is faster ont he street becusae the skill level just varies soo much.

Well, I can see most of those cars having the potential to be driven very poorly, but one of the many great things about the 1.8T is it's immense low end torque(for it's displacement :rolleyes: ).

It's hard to fuck up shifts of that engine... it just keeps pulling..

I can agree with Cbass on that, I have driven many Audi 1.8t's and they do have great high end! When I thought the power would slack it just kept going. Great engines!

Yes, the engine is built with all of VW's modern goodies, but still built to the tried formula of the Audi 3B 5 cylinder. A high static compression ration of 9.3:1, and an undersquare bore, resulting in very good low end torque. With the free breathing 5 valve per cylinder head, it has lot's of high end potential, as much boost as your turbo can supply. Add forged internals to the mix, and you have a strong engine with LOTS of potential. :D

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
So are maximas...now, im not sayin korean cars are nice...nor are they fast by any means (im saying this, an i am korean). but if u are going to make a broad statement like that, then so will i. MAXIMAS ARE SLOW AS POOP.

why don't you haul you and your slaccura down to central california, and I'll show you just how "slow" maximas are.:finger: :finger: :finger:

with those mod's i'd race u. if ur tryin to sound like ur gonna stomp me, then ur WAY off. u wanna call it a slaccura? alrite, go ahead, but when u get ur ass handed to u by one, then u'll eat ur words. same with me when i lose to a maxima. but if u wanna start a flaming war, then i'll end it rite now. til u race an integra w/ a normal driver w/ some mods, an beat him, don't talk. and til i beat a maxima with ur mods, then i'll quit. fair enough? cuz talking trash over the net isn't gonna get either of us ANYwhere. peace:finger:

awww that was sooo sweet. i've never seen two people resolve conflicts this nicely before. well done:smoka:

Originally posted by DemonZX
Yeah there is a lot, a lot of horrible drivers out there. When I first got my Z and I had my exhaust done, it draws a lot of attention because it is so frikin' loud. Well this guy in a 95-96 Mustang GT 4.6 goes to racing me. We raced about 6 times down Baymeadows road at 1:30. I took him 5 out of the 6! He should have worked me! I just don't understand?!

I don't understand that that generation Gt's had only 230 hp and 290 torque the 300zx has about 320 hp and torque i belive its normal that you beat him.

No no! I have an n/a Z. Not a twin turbo. Modified yes, but not a Twin Turbo.;)

I believe you ignited the flame by saying maximas are slow as poop. And I wasn't flaming, I was making an offer:finger:

nah, that was jus a response to an ignorant comment with another one. u ever heard of sarcasm? ah well, s'all good i guess, keep thinking ur maxima is fast, an u'll learn soon enough.

*worried*:uhoh:

Originally posted by DemonZX
*worried*:uhoh:

haha, aren't we all tho? :D

...I still maintain that the GTI is the way to go, with factory Audi stuff available for 230hp, under warranty. 1.8t all the way!

the SRT4 makes that at the wheels right from the facotry. :D As Sport Compact demonstrated recently. 223whp and 250lbs-ft at the wheels as well.. posting a 13.9 in the 1/4 [with 1/4 tank of gas] and a 5.9 to 60.. you'd be hard pressed to find more for less $19.995!!! :D

And yes. Dodge mentions 205-215 at the fly.. but like all performance models before it. Someone at Dodge loves speed. and is sand bagging numbers for us to enjoy :)

and its not just about straight line speed. the SRT4 comes with Koni's all 'round and like its big brother the Viper, has specially designed Michelin tires.

Bernard

Originally posted by lanosx
And yes. Dodge mentions 205-215 at the fly.. but like all performance models before it. Someone at Dodge loves speed. and is sand bagging numbers for us to enjoy :)

Yeah, that sometimes bugs me though, because some people don't believe you when you tell them what your car is putting out pretty much stock. I have first had experience with this, but it is nice for the lower insurance rates.