Ignorance at its best
jon@af
12-25-2002, 03:57 PM
ok, I know that when it snows there is extra caution taken when you drive but there is a point when it is a bit rediculous. I went and saw the new Lord of The Rings the other day and when i went in it was barely snowing, just blowing wind, three hours later I come out of the movie and there is about 7 inches of snow every-which-way. well, me in a 4-wheel drive sierra take off down the road to a back road to my house. up the road a ways I see a car, just getting ready to start up an overpass, he was a good 250 yards from me. I reached him before he got to the top of that overpass and then proceeded to drive 10 miles per hour while he drove down the middle of the road, to make matters worse there were cars coming who swerved to miss his stupid ass. well, I kept going and there was a car in the ditch a ways up and as we start to get there, he stops. just stops. why? what the hell for? "oh, theres a car in the ditch, I think I'll take a picture" needless to say I went around him without delay. If everyone knew how do drive properly, there would'nt be cars in the ditch would there? Im sure once in a while there would be those accidents that are unavoidable but come on, most accidents in the snow are because of human error, and the guy I was behind is one of those people who causes those kinds of accidents. Does this make me a bad person for being pissed at this guy?
whttrshpunk
12-25-2002, 07:35 PM
Well being in a 4wd, you could have pulled them out of the ditch :) But there still is no excuse for stupidity, other than ignorance of course :D
taranaki
12-25-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
Does this make me a bad person for being pissed at this guy?
Depends.Could be the first time he's ever driven on snow.Or maybe last time it was him who put his car in the ditch,and he can't afford to do it again.The fact that your vehicle has 4WD means that you are in a far better position to get the neccesary traction,but doesn't mean that everyone else on the roads should drive at whatever speed suits you.There are plenty of over-cautious drivers on the road,and some of them do end up in accidents,but usually because somebody else got impatient.
Does this make me a bad person for being pissed at this guy?
Depends.Could be the first time he's ever driven on snow.Or maybe last time it was him who put his car in the ditch,and he can't afford to do it again.The fact that your vehicle has 4WD means that you are in a far better position to get the neccesary traction,but doesn't mean that everyone else on the roads should drive at whatever speed suits you.There are plenty of over-cautious drivers on the road,and some of them do end up in accidents,but usually because somebody else got impatient.
boingo82
12-26-2002, 06:47 PM
Actually you are supposed to go esp. slow over overpasses because they are up in the air and as such they are much, much more likely to be icy. I agree this man was being a bit extreme but with cars and accidents slower is always better than faster.
Taranaki is right. It is more likely not the slow guy that causes accidents, but the fast guys who refuse to slow down for a mere block before it's safe to pass. They are usually the more aggravated and therefore aggressive drivers, and end up doing riskier manuevers to shave mere seconds off their commute..
Taranaki is right. It is more likely not the slow guy that causes accidents, but the fast guys who refuse to slow down for a mere block before it's safe to pass. They are usually the more aggravated and therefore aggressive drivers, and end up doing riskier manuevers to shave mere seconds off their commute..
taranaki
12-26-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by boingo82
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Taranaki is right. It is more likely not the slow guy that causes accidents, but the fast guys who refuse to slow down for a mere block before it's safe to pass. They are usually the more aggravated and therefore aggressive drivers, and end up doing riskier manuevers to shave mere seconds off their commute..
Like the time I took out a telephone pole making a 'reckless' passing manoever at 30mph.......:o .Walked 2 miles in the snow to the nearest call box[we're talking 1980's here,cellphones weren't widely available]and wondered why it wasn't working.........:bloated:
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Taranaki is right. It is more likely not the slow guy that causes accidents, but the fast guys who refuse to slow down for a mere block before it's safe to pass. They are usually the more aggravated and therefore aggressive drivers, and end up doing riskier manuevers to shave mere seconds off their commute..
Like the time I took out a telephone pole making a 'reckless' passing manoever at 30mph.......:o .Walked 2 miles in the snow to the nearest call box[we're talking 1980's here,cellphones weren't widely available]and wondered why it wasn't working.........:bloated:
jon@af
12-28-2002, 10:21 PM
I will admit i got impatient, but you can't tell me that you would sit behind a guy going 10 mph in a front wheel drive car (he was in an oldsmobile) and then not get mad when he just decides to stop to look at the car in the ditch. ok, fine, label me the more agressive driver but i guess thats just the way I am.
speediva
12-29-2002, 10:45 PM
No, throwing fits is healthy. I would have put down a window and screamed "What the F*CK are you doing you stupid @sshole???" If you can't drive in the friggin snow, DON'T. It's really not hard. People friggin panic, and panic leads to the same stupid people causing stupid accidents.
And the problem-makers are those who are FAR too overly cautious. Those who drive within reason suffer.
And the problem-makers are those who are FAR too overly cautious. Those who drive within reason suffer.
taranaki
12-29-2002, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by saturntangerine
I would have put down a window and screamed "What the F*CK are you doing you stupid @sshole???"
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
*hides*
I would have put down a window and screamed "What the F*CK are you doing you stupid @sshole???"
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
*hides*
Jimster
12-30-2002, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by saturntangerine
No, throwing fits is healthy. I would have put down a window and screamed "What the F*CK are you doing you stupid @sshole???" If you can't drive in the friggin snow, DON'T. It's really not hard. People friggin panic, and panic leads to the same stupid people causing stupid accidents.
And the problem-makers are those who are FAR too overly cautious. Those who drive within reason suffer.
*reminds himself* Stay away from any Infiniti G20's Pittsburgh
No, throwing fits is healthy. I would have put down a window and screamed "What the F*CK are you doing you stupid @sshole???" If you can't drive in the friggin snow, DON'T. It's really not hard. People friggin panic, and panic leads to the same stupid people causing stupid accidents.
And the problem-makers are those who are FAR too overly cautious. Those who drive within reason suffer.
*reminds himself* Stay away from any Infiniti G20's Pittsburgh
HogieGT-R
01-03-2003, 09:51 PM
it's not just the snow...it could be light rain and people do it afraid of hydroplaining or just driving slow for no damn reason...my dad will actually take his van and drive into oncomming traffic 2 pass them...nuts
Oz
01-03-2003, 11:41 PM
I don't think you have any right to be mad. Here in Canada ATM, we're driving in some HORRENDOUS conditions. Even with good winter tyres and 4WD it's dangerous driving. Driving the 30 off kilometres to Whistler, the slowest I've had to go is 50km/h. This was because of raining sleet, ice and snow all over the road and poor visibility. Coming from Australia, I had never driven in such conditions before and was being as cautious as possible. It may have pissed off people behind - but so what? We all got there ALIVE! I have seen 2 accidents while I've been here - both 4WDs and both stuck in ditches at the side of the road.
jon@af
01-04-2003, 12:36 AM
we arent talking all the crap youve been through, we are talking 7 inches of snow, which is mild compared to what you are describing, besides, the fact that there is 7 inches of snow on the ground, doesnt mean there is the same amount on the road, plows had already gone over the road before we had gotten there, seeing as it was a main road in itself. Im sorry but I still think that stopping in the middle of the road is completely uncalled for. Once again, if you think speeding up to 15 miles an hour to get around him is reckless then I guess I need to have my license revoked.
Oz
01-04-2003, 02:58 PM
Not at all, I think from your point of view that every action taken by you was reasonable. The clown shouldn't have stopped. My entire point was that not everyone has the same perspective, patience, timing, skill and experience...
Shortbus
01-04-2003, 03:08 PM
Maybe after you passed by and had gone some idiot going way to fast for conditions slammed into the back of the car stopped on the overpass and got hurt. There lesson learned. ilike2drivecars had to have been being patient enough to be able to avoid hitting this moron.
My .02
My .02
Steel
01-05-2003, 09:51 PM
I think i pissed off some people earlier in the snow but <shrug> I dont care. I dont care if you have a 6x6 with butcher-knife-asphalt-attractive heated tires. I still drive a VERY light RWD sports coupe, and WILL do 10-15 under the limit. I had people passing me in their trucks, beeping and flipping me off. :rolleyes: Sometimes i wish i was allowed to shoot out their tires so they could see what it's like for ME. Next time i will, i think.
jon@af
01-07-2003, 09:43 PM
thats very understandable, but driving a RWD car in the snow is a lot different than driving a FWD car in the snow, you at least have an excuse, if I had a RWD car I'd be driving pretty slow too. But come on, in a FWD car with like 2 inches on the road. Im not saying you have to speed, the highest i went was 30mph and it was a 55mph and I even had people coming up on my bumper, and Im pretty sure I wasnt the only person to go around that guy either.
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