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STOCK vs. ZC vs. B16


Jetts
12-21-2002, 05:59 PM
What kinda power increases am i lookin at with a ZC over stock?
what kinda power increases am i lookin at with a B16 over stock?
what kinda power increases am i lookin at with a B16 over a ZC


thx
as i u guessed in a 88-91 hatch
non si

kris
12-21-2002, 06:07 PM
Horespower ratings can be found here. (http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/engines/Engines.htm)

Personal opinions though?

DX to ZC probably worth it.
Si to ZC what a waste.
Si/DX to B16 well worth it, if thats what you want.
ZC to B16, same as above.

Jetts
12-21-2002, 06:09 PM
thx for responding
so would it be better to buy just a zc would that be fast with a turbo or a supercharger or save more money for a b16 turbo or supercharger
cause i can get a zc off ebay for like 600+ bux

Jetts
12-21-2002, 06:12 PM
thx for the great site i have been lookin for a good site like that

kris
12-21-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch
thx for responding
so would it be better to buy just a zc would that be fast with a turbo or a supercharger or save more money for a b16 turbo or supercharger
cause i can get a zc off ebay for like 600+ bux

Well, again, that all depends on who you talk to. I dropped in a ZC into my Si, and took it out three days later. It was not worth the price I paid for it. My a6 ran almost as strong. So, I am building up a n/a a6. There are plenty of people on here who say, save for a B16. Again, its up to how much you want to spend, and what you want to do. Also, there are other motors that work. the d16z6/y8 sohc vtec motor, etc.

Jetts
12-21-2002, 06:31 PM
i was talkin to my friend and he said a vtec zc supercharged with all the bolt ons would be quick as hell and i can get a hatch with a shit load of miles for cheap so i can get a zc too cause if i get a hatch with a shit load of miles it is just an excuse to do a motor swap

kris
12-21-2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch
i was talkin to my friend and he said a vtec zc supercharged with all the bolt ons would be quick as hell and i can get a hatch with a shit load of miles for cheap so i can get a zc too cause if i get a hatch with a shit load of miles it is just an excuse to do a motor swap


There are no ZC vtec motors out there. Also, I only know of one supercharger for the ZC motor, and from what I hear, is not all that reliable. Anything can be fast under boost, for a price.

Jetts
12-21-2002, 06:41 PM
he said that u have to make them a vtec (dont know how or if possible)

slammed89civic
12-21-2002, 06:49 PM
not possable to make a zc vtec, D and B series parts are not compatable, and since there was never a doch vtec D series engine, only B series dohc vtec engines ur looking at something that cannot be done (and i know there is going to be that ONE smartass that come into this post and says "ANYTHING can be done with money", and i would just like to tell that person to shut up, its true but im tired of hearing it)

kris
12-21-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch
he said that u have to make them a vtec (dont know how or if possible)


Maybe he is talking about making a LSVTEC. That requires a b18b block, and a vtec head.

Jetts
12-21-2002, 08:05 PM
i dont know i dont c that the zc is worth my 600 bux to get i'll just save that 600 bucks and get a b16

Skeme1
12-22-2002, 07:05 AM
how about a sohc ZC motor mated with a d16z6 / Y8 head?

= ZC VTEC!

SiZ
12-22-2002, 11:12 AM
My vote goes for spending the extra money and getting the B16A... I've had the DX motor, I've had the ZC, I have the B16. Its by far the best bang for the buck if you want to build a fast reliable car.

amy@af
12-22-2002, 12:11 PM
i went from Si to sohc vtec. it wasn't that huge of a jump in HP but i have plans for turbo.

i was talkin to my friend and he said a vtec zc supercharged with all the bolt ons would be quick as hell and i can get a hatch with a shit load of miles for cheap so i can get a zc too cause if i get a hatch with a shit load of miles it is just an excuse to do a motor swap

i have the dyno sheet for a zc running 10psi on a $1500 "junkyard" set-up getting 178.1 whp. $500 ZC (or sohc vtec from 92-95 Si/EX or 96-00 EX) + $1500 turbo = 178 whp. b16 is around 130 whp. my personal opinion? i like the underdog (zc or sohc vtec) scenerio. the b series just seems to easy and common for me

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