Special Doorsystem ???

Special Doorsystem ??? (this post)

Does anyone have pictures where you can see the doorsystem from this car ?

http://www.fastandfuriouseast.com/galleries/ff2casting/ff1stcasting57.jpg
http://www.fastandfuriouseast.com/galleries/ff2casting/ff1stcasting59.jpg

I'm from Belgium and I want that system in my car but I can't find some pictures how the doorsystem is actually created.

I hope somebody can help me ....

Thx a lot !!

Greetz
M.

not of that system but try contacting hamman they might be able to steer you in the right direction

I'm sorry but how who do you mean with hamman ?
I don't know any hamman ? Could you give more details please ...

THX m8 !

Sorry I spelled it wrong its hamann


http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/

Theres a german and an english version

Heres a sample of there work

yes, but that doorsystem is easy to make.
It's the one one the ford mustang cobra that i want and that is not from hamann..

:'(

yes but im sure they can steer you towards who ever does make them

That particular cobra was done by Street Weapon Composites in so cal. Any really good body shop would probably be able to do it.

www.streetweaponkits.com

Thanx a lot man !!!

Did you actually saw the system in real life ?
Can you give me more information how the system works because i would like to make it on my car.
I from Belgium so that's a long way to come looking.
If you had pics of the car from the inside with the door open so i can see the system It would be much of a help.

Thx a 1000 times man !!! U rule !!

Sincere Greetz

Mathieu

i have not seen that hamann setup in real life on a car but ive seen it in peices

the one you want is more complicated and there are 2 types

hydralic/mechanical hybrid better if you can afford it i geuss

Mechanical

both acheive the same result but HM has a smoother action

pushing the door away parrallel to the car then rotating it up

i can draw you vague and i mean that literally pics of how each system works but installing them is a nightmare as you have to frame reinforce
inside each door you want to open fron a single pivot

i have not seen that hamann setup in real life on a car but ive seen it in peices

I saw the Hamann door system in real life but that system is really easy to make ( believe me ) cause you just have 1 movement to maintain. I saw the car in Germany Essen Motorshow

the one you want is more complicated and there are 2 types

hydralic/mechanical hybrid better if you can afford it i geuss

Mechanical

both acheive the same result but HM has a smoother action

I would be satisfied with the mechanical system

pushing the door away parrallel to the car then rotating it up

That's the problem iI have, Rotating it up is the easiest part but I don't know really how to get the door parallell away from the car ?

i can draw you vague and i mean that literally pics of how each system works but installing them is a nightmare as you have to frame reinforce
inside each door you want to open fron a single pivot.

If you could do that for me I would be very thankful.

Installing is a problem I can try to solve but my problem right now is that i can't see the system in my thoughts.

If you could draw a picture of the system and show me how it opens in different steps I would be the happiest man on earth :flash: :flash: :flash:

THX again for your help man, I really look forward to it ...

if you have msn ===> [email protected]

Sincere greetz
Mathieu

i will draw you some plans for a hydralic version if you have access to computer Controled Milling Machine you would probably be able to do it your self providing your LAWS allow it

if possible could you tell me what make and model car this is for

and weather its private Personal
private Show
Corporate Show car


Oh and youll have to give me a little time as i have to do my PSJ comp car first

Its for my own personal car ===> Peugeot 306 / 3 doors from 1999.
I'm sorry buth my english isn't that perfect ...

What is Control Milling Machine ? ( never heard such a thing )

is there a great difference between the hydraulic version and the mechanical , because i'ms sure i won't use the hydraulic version so I would be more helpen with the explanation for a mechanical system ( if that's possible).
I think i could make the mechanical system myself if i had the plans about how it works.
By mechanical system i mean a hinge with a pump ( air filled ).

Thank u for your time ... I hope to hear from u ...

Thanx a lot !!!

Sincere greetz
Mathieu

well yes you should use the hydralic more reliable

using telescopic splines on a gyroscopic pivot

your english is ok for a belgian

und ich kann auch ein bisien deuch sprechen ? if that helps

but with limited english its hard to explain it in terms you could understand


Machines used for billeting alloy & steel ie Wheels Gears Splines

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well yes you should use the hydralic more reliable
using telescopic splines on a gyroscopic pivot
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I don't really understand how this hydraulic system works but I think it's very complicated ...

Don't you need extra things ( o don't know the word ) where the oil has to flow through and a pump also ...

is the mechanical hinge system the same with or without the hydraulic or not?

Can you please go on msn if you can ==> [email protected]

its full and wont accept my e-mail

Here is the message

ok the mechanical system relies on Tension and compresion they are i think harder to open as well as wearing out quicker to engineer one of these you would need to be a mathematical genius or have plenty of time and money to trail and error it
hydraulic systems can be set to open with car alarms\keyless entry systems plus open & close effortlessly to engineer one of these you just make it extra strong and let the hydraulics do the work

Ok, so I understand that it would be better to use a hydraulic system ...
I really would like to see the system from the inside of the vehicle cause now I really don't understand how they move the door parallel from the vehicle and afterwards going up.

Could I easily make this system (hydraulic) myself ?
And would it cost much ?

I just need the hydraulic material and the plans. ( and a manual maybe ) LOL
The work itself I can do myself ( I hope )

Ps : i know my email account is full
You can only use for MSN ==> http://messenger.msn.de/download/download.asp?client=1

then use my email adress to ADD me to the list and then we can talk online .... instead of always using this forum ..

GREETZ & thanx again ...

Mathieu

ummm i once used MIRC but yeah i type real bad dunno y just happens
(look at my replies) i can read and write normaly but typing screws with my brain plus i dissable msn and delete most things i dont use in windows and i will have to do a fair bit of system screwing breaking punching to make it work again + its 4 am here and im going to bed soon (note the typing no punctuation or stucture thats y im not a good programer/coder cant grasp those cancepts) any way i will look into it tomorrow and see about MSN I mainly stopped using them because of security issuses
oh and 5-7 days for rough plans

I don't think theres really a defined 'kit' per se. Rather its a custom fabrication job using hydaulic pumps etc

taken from streetweaponkits.com:

Doors
Not an exciting modification? Think again! Suicide, Gull-Wing, or Lamborghini we can swing your way. We develop custom mechanisims and custom hydrolics for each application, and if you want it to go up on it's own we'll double shock it! If your car is bone stock, but the doors lift Lamborghini style when you exit the vehicle you will still turn every head in the parking lot!


btw how did you get a Mustang Cobra in belgium? didn't think Ford Europe exported them there :)

Yes, that is correct !
Who said I'm driving a mustang cobra ? :flash:
I'm driving a Peugeot 306 S16 :frog:

Did you saw the mustang in real life ?

And i'm looking forward to see your plans Zammo ... :smoker2:

Try:

www.decah.net

They make bolt-on kits for doors like that.

Im Usually not rude But did have your eyes closed when you read this thread those are the ones he does not want

Hehe :dogpile: :flash:

Originally posted by Zammo
Im Usually not rude But did have your eyes closed when you read this thread those are the ones he does not want

Doesn't look all that different to me... Looks ALOT like the pics that he linked to in his first post in this thread...

Right, Now this is rough but its free so all i ask is that you give credit for the design to me and if you create a succseful company out of it a cushy R&D Directorship would be nice I did not copy any plans of anyone else any similarities to anyelses plans is coincedental
any way some fundementals not in the plan
Sensors and switches so the door dont close on you and the motor stops when fully
opened or closed
Keep the door weight down if you must have a huge stereo with 3 way splits and 8 inch subs in the door move them
the spline should probably be on the door side
use stainless and titaniun billet parts think about your constuction make it easy to replace bearings & stuff
keep an emergency glass hammer in your vehicle (should always have anyway)
The hard part is the space in which you have to do all this but this would still be the easiest to make yourself there are other ways though

Originally posted by Zammo
Im Usually not rude But did have your eyes closed when you read this thread those are the ones he does not want

I think what CI5IC is implying is that most of the cars that they make kits for on that website are also sport compacts and accordingly would have doors of similar size and weight so with some minor fabrication work it would not be too difficult to fit one of these kits to a 306.

But unless you're working with a kit like this one (even then..) it is definately not a DIY job... contact a good shop to perform the conversion for you.

if you have faith in your abillity you can do what ever you put your mind to regardless of task
Only DIY anything if you trust your abillity and know the risks
or if your STUPID

thanx 4 the design but it's really hard to see something in it.
What do u mean by giving you credit ?

Special Doorsystem ???
Special Doorsystem ??? (this post)

Does anyone have pictures where you can see the doorsystem from this car ?

http://www.fastandfuriouseast.com/g...stcasting57.jpg
http://www.fastandfuriouseast.com/g...stcasting59.jpg

I'm from Belgium and I want that system in my car but I can't find some pictures how the doorsystem is actually created.

I hope somebody can help me ....

Thx a lot !!

Greetz
M.

I have pic's of the system only because I build it :) check out my siteimportprecision.com (http://www.importprecision.com)

we will be doing cars from, the UK and japan all over the world

Hey lambodoors, I can't find anything about the system on your site.
Only 2 nice pictures but that's all.
If you designed the system could you tell me how you did to get the doors parallel from the car before going up.
It's the part where you bring the doors next to the car ( before they go up ) that I don't understand.

Thnx 4 replying ...

Sincere Greetz
Mathieu

we will have a pic gallery up here in the next week or 2 ,the only thing is you won't find pic of the kit it self untill our international paten is complete, on the doors that are straight up the door has to open out then go up and then fold back in toward the car to give it that lambo look