Skyline Drivetrain

I hate to actually ask this, and someone will probably say search the board and what not. But hey, what are forums for? Except to ask questions and get flamed about them and maybe get an answer. Anyway, which skyline's have AWD but don't have attesa and super hicas?

You Idiot!! WHy doin't you use the search option!?!?!


Nah just playin ;)

GTS-4s and GTRs are AWD w/ ATTESSA ETS. The GTR V-specs have ATTESSA ETS-Pro.

As far as 4ws, I seem to think that the R33s don't have it... Not sure though. I know R32s do. Try a Google.com search like "R32 Drivetrain" and do that for R33s and 34s too.

Gonthrax - eh???? :huh: The R33s certainly do have HICAS; well, at least the GTR and GTS25t, I dunno whether the others do or don't.

well these guys are onto it.

All AWD skylines (GTS-4 and GT-R) have some version of the Attessa system in it. Attessa is the AWD control system. This system has been revised over the years to become better. so the older ones such as my car a 1992 gts-4 may not be as good or exact as the newer models.
NOTE: Attessa is not a complete 4wd system, it works on a torque transfer system so that most of the time the car operates in rwd.

HICAS on the other hand is the 4 wheel steer system and seemed to appear as an option on skylines. some have it some don't.

Originally posted by darkness


HICAS on the other hand is the 4 wheel steer system and seemed to appear as an option on skylines. some have it some don't.

So is it the GTSs that don't have Hicas?

Moon: I'm sure that there is a certian trim that does not have hicas, not sure which one though.

*Edit*
I say this because I've seen a post somewere talking about not having a Hicas box, and some one (who knew what they were talking about) said somthing about GT???s not having hicas.

HICAS controls the rear toe, rather than being a full-blown 4 wheel steering system. It toes the rear wheels in during cornering above a certain speed (80km, I thought, but different speeds have been mentioned)

In the R32, the Gxi and GTE didn't have HICAS; the normal GTS didn't, but the GTS type S did. The GTS25s were all (I think) type S, so had HICAS. I think all the GTSts did, though I guess it may have just been the type M ones. All GTS4s were type M, so all had HICAS, as of course did the GTRs. I would guess there would be a similar distribution throughout the R33 and R34 range; eg the GTS25t has HICAS, the GTS (which is equivalent to the R32 GTE) probably doesn't, and the GTS25 may well have.

Originally posted by moondog
HICAS controls the rear toe, rather than being a full-blown 4 wheel steering system. It toes the rear wheels in during cornering above a certain speed (80km, I thought, but different speeds have been mentioned)

In the R32, the Gxi and GTE didn't have HICAS; the normal GTS didn't, but the GTS type S did. The GTS25s were all (I think) type S, so had HICAS. I think all the GTSts did, though I guess it may have just been the type M ones. All GTS4s were type M, so all had HICAS, as of course did the GTRs. I would guess there would be a similar distribution throughout the R33 and R34 range; eg the GTS25t has HICAS, the GTS (which is equivalent to the R32 GTE) probably doesn't, and the GTS25 may well have.

That sounds about right, good work Moon :)

Hell the GTE don't even have LSD :( :( :(

At least I have a decent stereo:flipa:

Its just more weight. I dont need to corner fast when going in a straight line Lock the HICAS....HICAS BAD.

Originally posted by racingbreed20
Its just more weight. I dont need to corner fast when going in a straight line Lock the HICAS....HICAS BAD.

Skylines weren't made to go in straight lines. They're not actually good drag cars - which makes it all the more impressive that the Japanese (and I hear possibly an Aussie too, now) manage 8 second 1/4 miles on street tyres in them. They're heavy, and the suspension design gives lots of negative camber on launch. They're GT cars, not drag cars; and in that regard the HICAS imo is a good thing.

Originally posted by moondog


Skylines weren't made to go in straight lines. They're not actually good drag cars - which makes it all the more impressive that the Japanese (and I hear possibly an Aussie too, now) manage 8 second 1/4 miles on street tyres in them. They're heavy, and the suspension design gives lots of negative camber on launch. They're GT cars, not drag cars; and in that regard the HICAS imo is a good thing.

I think it's a good thing. It doesn't weight that much. And the fact that GTRs are so versatial is what gets me. You can have a street drivin, 11sec 400m car that does very very well on the track as well :D:bloated:

And lets face it. In all reality, 11sec 400m is pretty damn fast. One could probly have that car doing high 9s or low 10s and still take it to the circut and drive it home.

That is indeed plenty fast, and considering how not drag cars Skylines are, as you say 11sec or so is actually very impressive. I certainly have no inclination to go down a drag strip - that's just so not what Skylines are really about.

(Though Reece McGregor's 8.72 on street tyres on a crappy Meremere track is pretty damn awesome) GO REECE!! ANd soon - we hope - GO CROYDON'S as well

Originally posted by moondog
That is indeed plenty fast, and considering how not drag cars Skylines are, as you say 11sec or so is actually very impressive. I certainly have no inclination to go down a drag strip - that's just so not what Skylines are really about.

(Though Reece McGregor's 8.72 on street tyres on a crappy Meremere track is pretty damn awesome) GO REECE!! ANd soon - we hope - GO CROYDON'S as well


I'm really interested in seeing Croydon's have a go, I how is that going anyway? Have they found anything to hold the power yet? :D

Actually Moon Reece has went to slicks. When I spoke to him last Friday morning he mentioned that. The reason was simple. 99% of the people want to see the lowest times. They don't care what tyres you use. So he is basiclly full blown drag.

Croydon's on the other hand want to remain fully street legal and RH9 in the class. Even last night Nick said they will never beat Reece due to he is not prepared to spend that sort of money to compete like that. Their GTR is to draw attention to his business.

Slicks, eh? No wonder he dropped 0.5 sec then :D

The Croydon's GTR was pretty much there before Reece's slicks tho'. When he did 9.2 they pulled a 9.3 In fact, I heard Reece took 3 or 4 runs to beat the 9.3 that Croydon's ran (without breaking either - there's a first :p ).

There aren't that many GTRs even in Japan doing 8s on street tyres are there? So a 9.3 is damn good.

Good point Moon. There are a few in Japan that in the 8's on NITTO tyres but most are running slicks to get low 8's. I am not sure on the amount in the 8's on DOT tyres so can't quote an actual number.

Croydon's have done well in their configuration and I really hope they can crack an 8. Also considering that meremere is a shit track so that makes it even more impressive to see. Both Reece and Croydon's cars would be nearly .5 quicker on a track such as found in the states.

Originally posted by RazorGTR
Both Reece and Croydon's cars would be nearly .5 quicker on a track such as found in the states.

Well then they should come over and have a go at it :D ;)

A solid rear axle would help as well, for those 1/4 mile treks:)

RazorGTR,

.5 quicker, that is a lot. The tracks are that much different? I never knew.

I am probably being quite generous at .5 SkylineUSA. At the last major event here, one of Australia's quickest rotor powered drag cars came over for some demo runs. The Rotor Master. He normally runs mid to low 7's in Australia but here he only could muster a mid 8.

The track is build on a swamp for starters which means it sinks. It has more ripples and dips than a motorcross track. Not to mention the fact it that is never properly prepped for national events other than for the V8's. So we get a bit of VHT spray on the start area and that is about it.

Gonthrax it has been talked about at least by the Croydon team but I doubt it will ever happen. Maybe one day though who knows.

Originally posted by RazorGTR


Gonthrax it has been talked about at least by the Croydon team but I doubt it will ever happen. Maybe one day though who knows.

That would be great. Should that happen, I might be able to convince some people they should give a circut R32 a go. I'll drive it ;)

Hey don't forget Sub-Zero's try-9 ran a 9.43 on dot radials. All of them prove how capable the chassis is:D . Oh, by the way we're planing on bringing the tube chassis dragster to the states this year(said with crossed fingers) looking to put up low 7-second times:eek:

Originally posted by NIF
Hey don't forget Sub-Zero's try-9 ran a 9.43 on dot radials. All of them prove how capable the chassis is:D . Oh, by the way we're planing on bringing the tube chassis dragster to the states this year(said with crossed fingers) looking to put up low 7-second times:eek:

Any thoughts on were you'd be comming?

Not sure yet, we're working out the details but I'll keep you posted.:)