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Scions - Ugly?


DemonZX
12-11-2002, 02:55 PM
UGLY

NSX-R-SSJ20K
07-10-2003, 06:13 AM
i think we need pictures for this i don't even know what the FC Ka Scion is so thats why i'm asking.

badassgremlin
07-17-2003, 08:29 PM
i give scion a year.......ugliest thing since the element:bananasmi

badassgremlin
07-17-2003, 08:36 PM
o ok u want pics ill give you pics

DISCLAIMER: those with weak stomachs are not recommended to see this material HERE YOU GO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO APPEAL TO GEN-Y'ers like myself...ugh:loser: http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2004/scion.xaxb/04.scion.xb.f34.500.jpg


http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2004/scion.xaxb/04.scion.xa.f34.500.jpg:spit:

DoriftoSX
07-27-2003, 02:39 AM
yeah the xA is ugly but the xB is pretty hothttp://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/02-06-scion-bbx.jpg

Sean
07-27-2003, 02:43 AM
:puke:

IM BLIND!

badassgremlin
08-04-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by DoriftoSX
the xB is pretty hothttp://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/02-06-scion-bbx.jpg :screwy: :nutkick: :chair: :D

CivicLeader
08-10-2003, 12:19 AM
I actually think it looks pretty cool...def. different...but pretty cool at the same time. Mods would def. make it stand out and you'd be the only one in the states driving one...if you can even get it into the states...
CL
:2cents:

Hudson
08-11-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by CivicLeader
I actually think it looks pretty cool...def. different...but pretty cool at the same time. Mods would def. make it stand out and you'd be the only one in the states driving one...if you can even get it into the states...
CL
:2cents:

That's the Scion xB (the boxy one) and xA. They're currently sold in California and coming to a Toyota dealer near you in the next year. They ARE sold in the States.

CivicLeader
08-11-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Hudson


That's the Scion xB (the boxy one) and xA. They're currently sold in California and coming to a Toyota dealer near you in the next year. They ARE sold in the States.

Sweet...Thanks Hudson...
I'd actually consider getting one of theses guys..jsut cause they're so diff. and tight looking!
CL

badassgremlin
08-12-2003, 07:34 AM
lol the xb looks really small

23toyota23
08-15-2003, 11:11 PM
they both look good. geo is to chevy as scion is to toyota. to badassgremlin i doubt they will die off, a third model is already being made. if for some reason toyota dropped the scion divison, i bet that the models would become toyotas much like what happened to geo.

Hudson
08-18-2003, 11:52 AM
they both look good. geo is to chevy as scion is to toyota....

That's very well put. But I doubt many people really understand what Geo was.

23toyota23
08-18-2003, 08:54 PM
That's very well put. But I doubt many people really understand what Geo was.

What was it exactly? I know that it was all rebadged cars from Suzuki, Isuzu, and Toyota but why didn't GM just add the models to the Chevy line to begin with?

badassgremlin
08-19-2003, 10:54 AM
but they did add the geo models to the chevy line up except years later look they all dissapeered except the tracker which will nxt year

Hudson
08-20-2003, 10:51 AM
What was it exactly? I know that it was all rebadged cars from Suzuki, Isuzu, and Toyota but why didn't GM just add the models to the Chevy line to begin with?

They did.

Originally, Chevrolet offered the (Suzuki) Sprint, (Isuzu) Spectrum, and (Toyota) Nova. In 1989, all three of them, along with the new (Suzuki) Tracker, were restyled and rebadged as Geos. The idea was that import buyers wouldn't buy a Chevrolet, and there is plenty of truth to that.

The Storm replaced the Spectrum in 1990 and only survived a few more years, but the rest of the lineup made the transition from Geo to Chevrolet. GM claims that Geo's goal of bringing import buyers to Chevrolet showrooms was accomplished, but I believe the reason the Geo brand was eliminated had to do with the cost of maintaining two separate brands for one franchise. It was much cheaper to advertise Chevrolet alone than to spread all of that marketing money across Chevrolet AND Geo.

Chevrolet's trying again with the importation of the new Aveo in the US and other Daewoo models into other countries.

CivicLeader
08-20-2003, 12:22 PM
Much good info....
Thnx....
CL

blazed on haze :\
10-30-2003, 01:02 AM
the xA is the lamest fucken thing ive ever seen... :disappoin

tho the xB has some nice groves and decent styling its still just a box. this is one weird car. :screwy:

Hudson
11-04-2003, 03:49 PM
The xA is a competent little car. For a person without a family, the xA would be a great choice. It's fun to drive and it has a distinctive yet subtle look about it. From some angles, it looks similar to the new Mini, but overall it's unique...atleast on the US market. The one I'm driving has turned about 32 mpg, it has good pickup, good interior room, and, like I said, it's fun to drive. It's also a good quality car for under $16k...a bargain compared to the smaller Mini.

pilavdzic
11-15-2003, 07:54 PM
I think the shape grows on you. Lots of people will be buying them, because lots of people can afford cheaper cars, and its cheap and economical on fuel, and insurance is likely to be cheap as well.

I have been considering buying one for some time now, and I know the popular opinion is that the box is outselling the other one 2 to 1 because people think its funky and the other one is ugly, but take a second look at the xA. Its futuristic looking from the side and rear. Only the front is ugly, and with replacement of the grill with something nicer from a body kit, isn't that bad at all. Obviously, its no sports car, but its just such a good deal...

I graduated from college, and probably could afford an NSX (tempting) but I'm choosing to be more responsible and enjoy awesome gas mileage and low insurance until I turn 25. Then I'll get the NSX after I invested some money in real-estate ;)

I can see why people like the boxy one too, but figure it this way, you pay an extra 1K for the extra interior space basically, but its clearly less aerodynamic and gets worse fuel economy.. to me, that's key because in Canada the echo hatchback (basically a scion, only cuter looking and comes in a 2dr which is lighter and has no power steering, ie. will be awesome if you slap a turbo on it) get 51mpg highway. I am assuming that the 38mpg in the US is just very understated, so I am basically interested in the car for the fuel economy and price. The only other things you can get brand new for that much money are total pieces of crap. Toyota has made these in japan for years (called the IST) and its reliable and has no problems, and tons of people soup em up and race the little mini-cars. Ok the Hyundai Accent is OK reliability wise as well but I just don't like it as much, and its nowhere near as economical or fun to drive.

So, I made a big sacrifice in sportiness, but, I think I'll be getting a value that nothing else comes close to these days in the car world. I think the car market has just jacked up prices on consumers beacuse they know we want cars just like that company controlls the supply of diamonds, unneccesarily boosting the prices of something otherwise not worth that much. The other cars I like, Acura RSX type-S, Infinity G35 coupe, and Acura NSX are really worth only 20K, 25K and 35K to me respectively (and cost the manufacturers probably ten thousand less than even that to produce, but in reality they cost 24K, 35K and 90K). So, until the scion I was going to get the acura because it was closest to what I thought it was really worth to me, but scion beats it now at being 13K which is awesome because at least I know they arn't making nearly as much money off me as the others.

If you don't get what I mean, look at it this way: I doubt that even an Acura RSX costs more than 2-3K more to produce than a scion, and the car costs 10K more. That's 7K of extra profit to the manufacturer, just because I want a nicer car. So I said screw that... I may be a car enthusiast but I have to use my knowledge to get the best deal now, until I can really more easily afford something better.

my
:2cents:

L8r ppl.

Max Boost
02-02-2004, 08:56 PM
There aint enough beer, money, or naked women in the world to get me into one of those...

TSOPbananaforyou
03-03-2004, 12:01 AM
I like these cars alot. I think both of them and the new tC a sports car look really good. They have option/aftermarket parts/mods that are covered unter warrenty and come with your car when you get it.

NO i am not a salesperson for scion i just like the cars that much. I listened to this guy talk about the cars for 20 mins at the saint louis auto show and then i won a beenie cap for answering a question right.

PoisonFangs
03-05-2004, 01:10 PM
All this talk about the Scion XA and the XB but you have not mentioned the 2005 TC that thing is sweet with the optional supercharger. go to yahoo and type in 2005 Scion TC. If then you still hate it go ahead.

Cheif xB
04-04-2004, 03:47 AM
Nobody ever said the xa and xb are pretty. I like ugly cars.....so much I bought one.

TSOPbananaforyou
04-06-2004, 01:26 PM
I like these cars alot. I think both of them and the new tC a sports car look really good. They have option/aftermarket parts/mods that are covered unter warrenty and come with your car when you get it.

NO i am not a salesperson for scion i just like the cars that much. I listened to this guy talk about the cars for 20 mins at the saint louis auto show and then i won a beenie cap for answering a question right.


I have just quoted my own post. In the previous post i mentioned the tC and the pic. that was posted that has the turbo tC looks SWEET

cowtnadv
04-29-2004, 12:40 PM
Actually I got a buddy at Toyota and have driven both! The XA is a kick ass pocket rocket that's about the size of a Civic with the Camry 6 cyl in it with a 5 speed tranny. It ran pretty peppy for a pocket rocket!

The XB is a cruise car for the kids - lots of room inside and made to handle the big sound systems and it still was a smooth driver but with only a 1.8 engine. It got you around but I was told they have a turbo version that makes it better. We are trying some Flowmaster Hushpower II mufflers (www.flowmastermufflers.com) on them right now to see how they sound!

Soon as I get sound bytes and photos I will post them.

I was told they were for the sports compact segment and I could tell with the highest price one at $14500 loaded!

I drove the Boxy XB on the weekend and the kids went nuts over it! Very comfortable to drive.


Old Fart

Chamiltor
05-13-2004, 02:51 AM
Have any of you seen the tC? HOT!! Out in June

Zanark
05-13-2004, 03:35 AM
I heard the TC is gonna suck balls. Just something to go up against the Saturn Ion Redline. I mean wtf is wrong wtih toyota Supercharging a car? I mean damn that doesnt leave much room for modification. Plus that cars purty hefty lol has a 2.4 liter and its around the same length as an eclipse. NOt To Mention it only has 41 inches of leg room. SO you better be a midget to fit in it o_O

Lil Lucas
06-12-2004, 02:43 AM
xA looks like a car that you would actually find in japan

spasticone
06-12-2004, 09:54 PM
These cars suck Big Donk.... Ugly beyond recognition and TINY inside:)

deebo424
06-15-2004, 01:14 PM
the tC is the tightest looking car with the the best value on the market right now, so i wouldnt hate on the scion brand until you see it for yourself http://www.scion.com

aznxthuggie
06-15-2004, 11:20 PM
i know the tc is the best scion out there so far, well thats subjective, but why does everyone say WOW ITS SO GREAT WITH THE SUPERCHARGER, do you guys know it uses the camry engine, and the camry can also have a supercharger, so that makes the camry "GREAT" right? welll wtf, i think thats stupid, and everyone that says "wow lets turbo this thing" why dont u turbocharge a camry? SAME THING better yet you get 2 extra doors, and even more refinement, if you go to jd power and associates website, you'll see that out of the 3 companies toyota owns, lexus is on top, then toyota, then scion, why? because they put crappy workmanship into the scions, i mean you get what you pay for, also to let you guys know, toyota will soon have the lexus brand in japan, seriously.. research on their website and you'll find out

Savage Messiah
06-15-2004, 11:38 PM
To answer the question posed by this thread... they are goddamn fugly.

deebo424
06-16-2004, 01:43 PM
camaros look like a streaking hyphen, theres nothing to em, just a long dash with a slight bump in the middle

-=- <Look, I got a Camaro!!!!!

The Scions are actually interesting and designed to be different

aznxthuggie
06-20-2004, 03:33 AM
To answer the question posed by this thread... they are goddamn fugly.

looks are subjective, the car may look ugly to you, but to someone else it can be a work of art

Markgase2000
06-20-2004, 04:50 PM
Very unique looks , almost space age , I respect that. Seen one tricked up before , neat.

BLU CIVIC
06-20-2004, 04:59 PM
love Scions...plan on getting an xB for myself....

the tC is really nice...i wouldn't opt for the supercharger...i'd turbo it...but they are nice car for the money

tC starts out around $16k
xB and xA start out around $13k

all of them have some nice options...like 19" rims for ex....they're real quality budget cars...makse sense to me...i love them

chevyaveo
06-29-2004, 09:37 PM
I think the car is appealing and have a friend who has one and the amount of extras on his car are unbelievable... you should look at one and test drive it before giving it the kick to the curb. good luck to all of you and god bless. All of you with a Scion bless you.

TheScientist
07-27-2004, 07:26 PM
Well, most of you people are only taking opinions based on first views. Scions happen to actually be very good cars, and I personally think they're cool. I don't particularly like the xA and xB but I do like the tC. You have to admit it is a nice looking car. What turns me on, is that it's a good, reliable and nicer Toyota for a good price, and the levels of customization you can do right at the spot of purchase.
http://www.powersys.com/auto_show2004/Scion%20tC%20Pic%202-pt.jpg
THe only thing I don't like is the rear end, I think it needs to be a bit longer.

This is just to let you know, if you own a Scion, I believe they void your warranty if you add any aftermarket modifications because they already have enough customization options there for you.

DinanM3_S2
07-28-2004, 03:43 PM
The xA and xB are pretty damn ugly cars. I've seen a couple xB's on the street so the must be becoming popular, no xA's yet though...

The tC on the other hand is probably the best car in its class. $16,000 for similar numbers to the more expensive Civic Si, RSX (not S), Saturn Ion Redline, and Cooper S. The factory supercharger that puts is up to around 200 bhp puts it about even price with its competitors. IMO, the tC is by far the best car in this class. The xB and xA are just plain wierd and ugly, but the tC is actually a good car.

nbr1nthuzyst
01-09-2005, 03:08 AM
I dont think the Scion's are ugly. The Xb looks better, but im a preformance guy, and withough mods, a scion Xa or Xb doesnt really do it for me. The new Tc is a good looking car, and it has some pizaz to back it up.

Gamecock
01-17-2005, 07:02 PM
U-g-l-y!!

YukiHime
02-13-2005, 08:39 PM
People just like to say it's ugly, but without saying how they are ugly, why is it ugly. They don't even bother to compare them with something else...

Ignorance...

mango1
02-16-2005, 04:17 AM
the xb an the xa both use the echo subframe and motor which is the bottom line toyota(108 hp) so they are both shit on the inside no matter what you do to the outside. If you have a 62' bug and put a lambo frame on it, it does not make the car any good, just a fast looking pile of crap. Oh and i already own a toaster why the hell would i want to drive one. The tc is a camary base with 160 hp and plenty of mods to start with so it would be a tempting car for its price and the panoramic sunroof is cool. my civic would still beat it ha ha ha.

porscheguy9999
03-11-2005, 06:55 PM
xA- too generic looking
xB- FUGLY
xC- the best of the 3

YukiHime
03-11-2005, 08:06 PM
xC?

The tC is just like a scale down Solara...Neither of them attracts my attention. But Toyota killed Celica for that stupid tC...that's a shame for Toyota.

rumrunner88
03-14-2005, 03:45 PM
a scion xb is a nice caar if you want to "pimp" it out. im talkin stereos tvs and whatever outhe useless crap you can fit in there. racing wise not even the xa has enough power for me just poopy cars altogether

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