I might join the 4th gen club....
kicker1_solo
12-10-2002, 05:00 PM
Surfing the boards and I found this in my area"
"1990 Civic Hatch
I bought this car for a project and instead I just got a 1992 Civic Hatchback CX, so need to sell the 90. It's a 4-speed, red exterior, gray/black interior, has some body damage on driver side, needs some work to drive down the road which wouldn't be much if you know how to remove spot welds and replace and reweld. car runs, I think it smokes a little, but not sure. Great for a project. I was going to drop a B16A1 into this and give it new paint job, but now it needs a new home. I have pictures and can take more of specific ones if need be. just let me know and I will email them to you. I need $600.00 out of it."
I can do the body work, that's not a probelm for me. But what do you guys think, is it a good deal? I'm thinking of this being my project car, do some custom body work on it, drop a bigger motor in, go all out on it. Think I should go for it?
"1990 Civic Hatch
I bought this car for a project and instead I just got a 1992 Civic Hatchback CX, so need to sell the 90. It's a 4-speed, red exterior, gray/black interior, has some body damage on driver side, needs some work to drive down the road which wouldn't be much if you know how to remove spot welds and replace and reweld. car runs, I think it smokes a little, but not sure. Great for a project. I was going to drop a B16A1 into this and give it new paint job, but now it needs a new home. I have pictures and can take more of specific ones if need be. just let me know and I will email them to you. I need $600.00 out of it."
I can do the body work, that's not a probelm for me. But what do you guys think, is it a good deal? I'm thinking of this being my project car, do some custom body work on it, drop a bigger motor in, go all out on it. Think I should go for it?
Melt
12-10-2002, 05:54 PM
Sounds like a good deal kicker.
4 spd = STD hatch (or CX in canada)
Some guy here in napa is trying to sell a 93 CX with 100k for $4000
4 spd = STD hatch (or CX in canada)
Some guy here in napa is trying to sell a 93 CX with 100k for $4000
kicker1_solo
12-10-2002, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Melt
4 spd = STD hatch
So what does that mean, what would I be getting?
4 spd = STD hatch
So what does that mean, what would I be getting?
GTA
12-10-2002, 07:16 PM
std is the bottom of the line hatch. Its a 4 speed, and 70hp. It doesnt have many option unless they were installed later. I think its a good deal..
kicker1_solo
12-10-2002, 08:23 PM
Pics are in
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p8a2a41c0b01f0195fa9d7457eae3c63a/fcf22555.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p6b33411ec308a2e83155169144d57a12/fcf22554.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p05e662b60edd0fda8d7e8f5c5eb345ae/fcf22553.jpg
body work is not a problem with me.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p8a2a41c0b01f0195fa9d7457eae3c63a/fcf22555.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p6b33411ec308a2e83155169144d57a12/fcf22554.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p05e662b60edd0fda8d7e8f5c5eb345ae/fcf22553.jpg
body work is not a problem with me.
kicker1_solo
12-10-2002, 08:25 PM
std, so I'm guessing that's no power door locks, no power windows, no moonroof/sunroof. What about power steering and air conditioning?
Melt
12-10-2002, 08:34 PM
haha, tight rims on one side and bootsy stock on the other, that shits hilarious.
And no, the STD has no power steering or A/C either.
That car looks like a great project. Go for it.
And no, the STD has no power steering or A/C either.
That car looks like a great project. Go for it.
spy54
12-10-2002, 08:49 PM
trust me not having power sterring is not a problem
gunnmen01
12-10-2002, 08:51 PM
i dont have p/s either, and i dont miss it...
gunnmen01
gunnmen01
kicker1_solo
12-10-2002, 09:57 PM
I don't mind not having the power steering. Here's the latest email about it
"In short it was slid into a side of a large curb on a bridge. I am not a body person so I am not sure if the parts can be unbolted and replaced with one off another. I never had anytime to tear into it. A neighbor of mine knows a guy that does body work and I was going tow it up there and have him fix it for me. The guy that was going to do the body work on it told me since Honda's are a sub frame a lot of the parts are spot welded or something like that. I can take pictures of it in the day light for you to better understand what I am talking about. When I bought this I was told it had a broken axle and the rear might need suspension work, which was a lie, because they marked the damage that was right behind the rear tire under the car, and the front driver side axle was just fine."
I can take off the front core support and weld a new one back on, I'm not sure if it needs a new one. It needs a new front axle, is that much of a problem?
Couple more pics
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p09634c32673fcab049be61ac737c57da/fcf21082.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pefd13ac98047a5b52a151101f23e3a86/fcf21080.jpg
"In short it was slid into a side of a large curb on a bridge. I am not a body person so I am not sure if the parts can be unbolted and replaced with one off another. I never had anytime to tear into it. A neighbor of mine knows a guy that does body work and I was going tow it up there and have him fix it for me. The guy that was going to do the body work on it told me since Honda's are a sub frame a lot of the parts are spot welded or something like that. I can take pictures of it in the day light for you to better understand what I am talking about. When I bought this I was told it had a broken axle and the rear might need suspension work, which was a lie, because they marked the damage that was right behind the rear tire under the car, and the front driver side axle was just fine."
I can take off the front core support and weld a new one back on, I'm not sure if it needs a new one. It needs a new front axle, is that much of a problem?
Couple more pics
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p09634c32673fcab049be61ac737c57da/fcf21082.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pefd13ac98047a5b52a151101f23e3a86/fcf21080.jpg
slammed89civic
12-10-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Melt
haha, tight rims on one side and bootsy stock on the other, that shits hilarious.
And no, the STD has no power steering or A/C either.
That car looks like a great project. Go for it.
my new 91 std has a/c.....so it was an option on the base model, because i can tell it wasnt added on later
haha, tight rims on one side and bootsy stock on the other, that shits hilarious.
And no, the STD has no power steering or A/C either.
That car looks like a great project. Go for it.
my new 91 std has a/c.....so it was an option on the base model, because i can tell it wasnt added on later
GTA
12-10-2002, 11:52 PM
yea, any options were dealer installed...it came from the factory without it.
kicker1_solo
12-11-2002, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by kicker1_solo
It needs a new front axle, is that much of a problem? anyone?
It needs a new front axle, is that much of a problem? anyone?
mellowboy
12-11-2002, 01:58 AM
Hey thats a great deal for 600 bucks! Changing axles is not a problem. Make sure to use ur old ones for core exchange. Other than that its not hard to change the axles. The only problem u gonna run into is taking it out. The threads usually rust in the well hub and u have to bang it out but its a pain. I used an impact hammer to make my job easier.
MKS
12-11-2002, 11:14 AM
lol is that car pink :)
sounds quite a good deal as long as the car starts and ya willnig to put in the work to get it all up and running :)
sounds quite a good deal as long as the car starts and ya willnig to put in the work to get it all up and running :)
plkelley
12-11-2002, 11:23 AM
Did any of the hatches come with power steering, cause I dont think my SI has it...hmm
Melt
12-11-2002, 11:36 AM
Dfarres has power steering, but thats cause his hatch used to be an auto. Apparently the A/T hatches came with a lot of shit the M/T ones didnt.
LX / EX sedan ownz j00 all. Cruise, power everything, automatic seatbelts, and then I got the R134A A/C coversion. 30 degree air!! Whoo!
LX / EX sedan ownz j00 all. Cruise, power everything, automatic seatbelts, and then I got the R134A A/C coversion. 30 degree air!! Whoo!
kris
12-11-2002, 04:04 PM
Lowball him first. $600 sounds okay, but with body damage, always try and get lower. But I cant see any pics either, so I dont know. :D
kicker1_solo
12-11-2002, 05:18 PM
More pics, but first here's an email from her
""It doesn't need the front end replaced just a frame that is right behind the front tires and another frame that is right behind the rear tire or somewhere in that area. None of the suspension looks like its messed up at all. All the suspension looks like it is in working order.""
Pics
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/12865990civic4.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/87965790civicinter.jpg
and here's the damage pics from right behind the front tire
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/40304590civicfront.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/47043090civicfront1.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/74793690civicfront2.jpg
and behind the rear tire
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/55351590civicrear.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/63770990civicrear1.jpg
I think I'm gonna try to get her down to $450-$500. Do you guys still think it's worth the price?
""It doesn't need the front end replaced just a frame that is right behind the front tires and another frame that is right behind the rear tire or somewhere in that area. None of the suspension looks like its messed up at all. All the suspension looks like it is in working order.""
Pics
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/12865990civic4.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/87965790civicinter.jpg
and here's the damage pics from right behind the front tire
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/40304590civicfront.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/47043090civicfront1.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/74793690civicfront2.jpg
and behind the rear tire
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/55351590civicrear.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/63770990civicrear1.jpg
I think I'm gonna try to get her down to $450-$500. Do you guys still think it's worth the price?
kris
12-11-2002, 05:20 PM
Ouch. I wouldnt pay over $300 myself.
kicker1_solo
12-11-2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by kris
Ouch. I wouldnt pay over $300 myself. Is that just a cracked frame in the back? And what am I looking at in the front? How much would I be looking at spending on parts and stuff if I did all the work myself, and could I just weld the frame back up instead of replacing it?
Ouch. I wouldnt pay over $300 myself. Is that just a cracked frame in the back? And what am I looking at in the front? How much would I be looking at spending on parts and stuff if I did all the work myself, and could I just weld the frame back up instead of replacing it?
kris
12-11-2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by kicker1_solo
Is that just a cracked frame in the back? And what am I looking at in the front? How much would I be looking at spending on parts and stuff if I did all the work myself, and could I just weld the frame back up instead of replacing it?
Well, that top picture is the steering rack. I forgot what that little thing right there is called specifically.
The bottom two are whats the worse problem. I suppose if you had a good frame puller, you could pull that bottom piece out. That is where the lower control arm bolts to. That is why the back tire is pulled in so far. That may be hard to get perfect again, so you may end up having camber problems.
Im not sure what the third and fourth pictures are of. Maybe you know?
Is that just a cracked frame in the back? And what am I looking at in the front? How much would I be looking at spending on parts and stuff if I did all the work myself, and could I just weld the frame back up instead of replacing it?
Well, that top picture is the steering rack. I forgot what that little thing right there is called specifically.
The bottom two are whats the worse problem. I suppose if you had a good frame puller, you could pull that bottom piece out. That is where the lower control arm bolts to. That is why the back tire is pulled in so far. That may be hard to get perfect again, so you may end up having camber problems.
Im not sure what the third and fourth pictures are of. Maybe you know?
kris
12-11-2002, 05:38 PM
Also, our cars have a uniframe. Which means there is no frame that can just be fixed, like in a truck, etc.
It looks like most of that is just labor on pulling, welding, etc. I doube they sell replacement parts for those.
It looks like most of that is just labor on pulling, welding, etc. I doube they sell replacement parts for those.
kicker1_solo
12-11-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by kris
Im not sure what the third and fourth pictures are of. Maybe you know? No idea, she just said that's the frame right behind the front tires.
Im not sure what the third and fourth pictures are of. Maybe you know? No idea, she just said that's the frame right behind the front tires.
civic89dx
12-12-2002, 12:22 AM
that car is gonna take a lot of work. i don't think it is really worth the effort. it is definitely a project. it's a judgement call on your part. i wouldn't touch do it, but that is my opinion.
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