Integra or Prelude

Im not sure if its in the right forum but which is better the integra or a perlude? I cant decide which to buy, i want more power but i want looks too so i need some opinions thanks also i want to know what integras are good for and what preludes are good for...

what generations of teg and ludes are u buying???

im planning to get the latest generations 94+ for integ and 97+ for lude

srv are never really bad for power, and it looks pretty good

teg with jdm front end conversion are tight.......but u can do alot more than the ludes as in aftermarket

I currently own an '00 Integra Type R & an '01 Prelude (not Type SH).

ITR (for sale by the way) is more fun when you want to drive spiritedly. However it is pretty bare bones as far as interior goes. It is not as good a daily driver... but, man, what a blast. Light, nimble, sounds great, shifts great... Has LSD which is great for traction. Has direct (not cable) shifter which feels positive.

Prelude has a nice interior and is a good daily driver (engine even has some torque - amazing). However, it feels heavy and sluggish in comparison when it comes to spirited driving. No LSD and cable shifter is not real great in terms of feel.

So, it really depends what you are looking for.

I've always been a fan of the b18, I seem to be able to push more hp out of them than I can an h22 motor (plus there's the matter of weight difference in the two vehicles the teg is considerably lighter). Ok in comparing the two (lets say a type R integra to a prelude sh) the engines in both motor's are rated at around the same 195hp+ radius. but the type R runs a 1.8 liter with a 10.6:1 CR. and spins past 8400 rpm redline until it hits a fuel cutoff at 8500. The motor makes 108 hp per liter. The Prelude on the other hand runs a 2.2 liter with a CR. of 10.0:1 and tachs out at 7500 rpm's. The difference is torque, the prelude's extra displacement translates into 156 feet of torque at 5250 rpm, while the type R peaks at 130 feet while at 7500 rpm. Ok Honda's are all about the short stroke, most engines are built for torque, rather than horsepower. As a rule, larger bore equals more horsepower, while a longer stroke equals more torque. A long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. B/c the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can handle. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower. Honda have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear, The ITR is a perfect example of utilization of that high RPM, the prelude is as well but is lacking in comparison to a b18c5 (also personally I think it could use a 6th gear) Both cars are excellent automotives but my vote goes to the teg, for reasons explained. Hope I helped out a bit.

the prelude sh is the coolest.:sun:

i think the lude looks better but i would rather have a gsr teg

any reason why? i like the looks of a prelude better but the gsr is smaller and better milage but the gsr interior is so much plainer then the prelude - isnt the prelude and the integra basiclly the same car?

Originally posted by CaboWabo
any reason why? i like the looks of a prelude better but the gsr is smaller and better milage but the gsr interior is so much plainer then the prelude - isnt the prelude and the integra basiclly the same car?
ok a gsr integra and a prelude what? also what year? There's a few different models. Are you talking about a 5th generation prelude with a h22a1 vs a 3rd generation Integra with a b18c1? :confused:

94 integra gsr vs a 97 prelude type sh

used 97 Type SH go for around $10,745 while GSR's in a 94 go for around $6,235. I like the B18 motor better than the H22, but your going to get more power stock out of a h22 that a b18. 170 hp from a gsr, 200 hp from a sh. (read my above post, there are reasons I like b18's better)

I'd take an Integra over a prelude cuz i like the looks of the integras. but if u want, u can have the best of both of them, buy the one you think looks good and do a motor swap:sun: that always works lol, but i still like my 4G Civic Hatch

Originally posted by hybridsol
I've always been a fan of the b18, I seem to be able to push more hp out of them than I can an h22 motor (plus there's the matter of weight difference in the two vehicles the teg is considerably lighter). Ok in comparing the two (lets say a type R integra to a prelude sh) the engines in both motor's are rated at around the same 195hp+ radius. but the type R runs a 1.8 liter with a 10.6:1 CR. and spins past 8400 rpm redline until it hits a fuel cutoff at 8500. The motor makes 108 hp per liter. The Prelude on the other hand runs a 2.2 liter with a CR. of 10.0:1 and tachs out at 7500 rpm's. The difference is torque, the prelude's extra displacement translates into 156 feet of torque at 5250 rpm, while the type R peaks at 130 feet while at 7500 rpm. Ok Honda's are all about the short stroke, most engines are built for torque, rather than horsepower. As a rule, larger bore equals more horsepower, while a longer stroke equals more torque. A long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. B/c the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can handle. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower. Honda have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear, The ITR is a perfect example of utilization of that high RPM, the prelude is as well but is lacking in comparison to a b18c5 (also personally I think it could use a 6th gear) Both cars are excellent automotives but my vote goes to the teg, for reasons explained. Hope I helped out a bit.

EXACTLY the reason why an s2k can run a 14 second quarter mile:D That and it's not-too-heavy frame that is, hehe.
Anyways, I vote for the Prelude, love the way they look and you don't see them as often as Integras. Granted most Integras aren't TypeRs or even GSRs, but still, they all look alike:D

It is funny to hear the plug for the 2.0L S2000 and then see your tag line "no replacement for displacement", though I do see that you have a Z28 to back that up. Anyway, after driving the ITR for 3 years and now the Prelude, I am finding myself gradually moving toward the rear wheel drive with 6 or 8 cylinders philosophy. Torque is what is needed for 80% of the driving we do (and for good burnouts).

I had the same delima but I choose the teg (although non-vtec) I am happy with my choice. The lude has much nicer interior but like xollins
said the ludes are heavy and sluggish compared to the tegs.
But it is all in what you are going to do with the car. I say looks = lude Performance = teg

P.S Don't make the same mistake I made, if you get a teg make sure you get a gsr or type r. Don't get me wrong I love my teg but would rather have vtec :(

If i were you i would get the Prelude. Even if you can't get the SH V-Tec, the base model comes with 195 horsies. Versus the 142 of a base teg. And hte extra torque is very nice, i mean for daily driving you dont wanna push it to 5000 rpm's every time u start off a red light just to keep up with the mini vans.... The lude is also sort of rare, and i think it handles nicer too because it is so low and wide i guess. For all that plus a nicer interior i would go for hte prelude. And if u get that electron blue V-tec... daaammm its nice :sun:

I'm gonna have to go with the prelude simply because of it's style and power. The teg is fast, no doubt, but a black lude is a masterpeice....IMO.. besides, about the whole rareity issue..where im from, there arent any prelude's and as for the teg's, it's an everyday occurance..

cabo, there is really no comparison between the 2 as listed. of course i am a little biased, also strongly opinionated. as for the prelude, it just weighs too darn much. 4 cylinders need to be incredibly light. although it does have more horses stock than a gsr, modd those puppies up and see what happens from there.
integras are untouchable

emilio just to clear some things up the sh lude has 200hp and the base has 195 and they both have 156 foot pounds. as for what car I would pick, I would go with a gsr teg. I love luds and my boy has one, but I like integras more.

I would have to go with the lude, I was sort of in the same spot you're now 2 years ago. And I'm happy with my decision.

buy an LS integra then turbo the crap out of it. :D the b18b1 loves boost. as long as you dont get greedy. perfect ratio for it.

Originally posted by whoneedsvtec
buy an LS integra then turbo the crap out of it. :D the b18b1 loves boost. as long as you dont get greedy. perfect ratio for it.

Exactly!!! The LS teg has more potential than any of those other cars staying stock. And it's also cheaper to buy, and cheaper insurance. The B18B1 will handle 12 PSI of intercooled boost on stock internals, making about 275 HP or more closer to 300 with 3" straightpipe exhaust. The GSR can handle 8 PSI, making a little less than 270. Also the LS will be faster cuz the longer gearing, it's better to spool the turbo longer. Hands down the LS is the best, I have a 2000 LS and plan to turbo it and make one of the fastest cars around here, and without dumping thousands upon thousands into the engine bay to make 300 HP. Just the price of the turbo kit and fuel management is all you need to buy. Forget the Prelude, H series can't handle much boost unless you put thousands into them to begin with, integra will still be faster cuz of the lighter curb weight and still probably making more power.

Originally posted by xollins
It is funny to hear the plug for the 2.0L S2000 and then see your tag line "no replacement for displacement", though I do see that you have a Z28 to back that up. Anyway, after driving the ITR for 3 years and now the Prelude, I am finding myself gradually moving toward the rear wheel drive with 6 or 8 cylinders philosophy. Torque is what is needed for 80% of the driving we do (and for good burnouts).

That is why I am getting a Nissan S13 w/ sr20det swap.

integra, yes im biased, but i get to be :bigthumb:

nah, but i chose the teg over the lude because of the lighter weight an the higher rev's. personally, i love the fact that i can rev to 8k every day an have that little pull of vtec.

i enjoy the style of the lude, but im more into the smaller look. the ludes' interior is by FAR nicer, but i still had to side with the teg because of its motor an the smaller body. but...thats jus my .02

Hey man, I've gotta say that without doubt go with the Integra. That B18 will really pull plus with the revs going up to almost 9000 and vtec kicking in at like 7000(that was an educated guess) Plus its lighter, the interior is more drab but its not bad enough to shun out of the votes. I think that if you really want a car that you can tune and be able to modify then go with the integra. Another point I nearly forgot to mention is that the Integras share parts with the Civic. So if there's a civic part that would perform or look better with your car then it will stilll mount because the Integra and the Civic are both based on the same chassis and equipment.

Originally posted by hybridsol
I've always been a fan of the b18, I seem to be able to push more hp out of them than I can an h22 motor (plus there's the matter of weight difference in the two vehicles the teg is considerably lighter). Ok in comparing the two (lets say a type R integra to a prelude sh) the engines in both motor's are rated at around the same 195hp+ radius. but the type R runs a 1.8 liter with a 10.6:1 CR. and spins past 8400 rpm redline until it hits a fuel cutoff at 8500. The motor makes 108 hp per liter. The Prelude on the other hand runs a 2.2 liter with a CR. of 10.0:1 and tachs out at 7500 rpm's. The difference is torque, the prelude's extra displacement translates into 156 feet of torque at 5250 rpm, while the type R peaks at 130 feet while at 7500 rpm. Ok Honda's are all about the short stroke, most engines are built for torque, rather than horsepower. As a rule, larger bore equals more horsepower, while a longer stroke equals more torque. A long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. B/c the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can handle. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower. Honda have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear, The ITR is a perfect example of utilization of that high RPM, the prelude is as well but is lacking in comparison to a b18c5 (also personally I think it could use a 6th gear) Both cars are excellent automotives but my vote goes to the teg, for reasons explained. Hope I helped out a bit.

are you saying that the b18c5 should have a 6th gear or the h22 should? :confused:

I would without a doubt choose an integra gs-r over a lude....ANY day. I have an LS non v-tec....i wouldnt sell that for any prelude u sit under my saddle. There is soooo much you can do with an integra, ANY type. BUT if you want an integra, i say the gs-r is nice but if u really wanna work and not be a stock pussy, get an LS. You can easily fit some parts into that LS making it a v-tec (obd's ecu's header's, etc). Get an electronic v-tec controller (that way u can do it in car), strap a good turbo (recomended from this site: Greddy...but ive also heard that a DRAG isnt bad either) and u can probably run a good psi...like 18+ (ive seen someone run around 22psi...ALOT of f-in power). That prelude might have some torque..but it's gonna need it for that weight. Still nothings stopping u from weight reductions, but there's no way u can get that SH to exceede the LS in boost. And about those RPM's....hehe good luck with that lude...hehehe. And the gs-r headers dont need alot of tourque to carry it....those butterflies will carry it to the finish line easily. And about that interrior....CHANGE IT!! Dont be a stock pussy...if uve got the money for the lude...buy a LS integra...spend bout 2k-3k on the mods in the engine and change the interior with another 2k....in the long run ur spending the same...but ur getting more for ur money...ull have a PIMP ass integra (u'll be suprised) for the same price as a stock prelude.

ps: DON'T be a stock bitch. If you want any respect...build ur own car...bc if ur woman see's ur car sitting on the side of the road...she'll run straight to that guy with an integra....esp the one that just whooped yo ass in that 1/4 race:thefinger

I raced a 99 Civic Si and lost, but I think off the line I would get it. I have more torque, but it has 160 HP as to my 124 (for now). I went to pass the asshole and he gunned his car, so I did hte same... Regardless, he won.

Originally posted by youngracer_teg99
I would without a doubt choose an integra gs-r over a lude....ANY day. I have an LS non v-tec....i wouldnt sell that for any prelude u sit under my saddle. There is soooo much you can do with an integra, ANY type. BUT if you want an integra, i say the gs-r is nice but if u really wanna work and not be a stock pussy, get an LS. You can easily fit some parts into that LS making it a v-tec (obd's ecu's header's, etc). Get an electronic v-tec controller (that way u can do it in car), strap a good turbo (recomended from this site: Greddy...but ive also heard that a DRAG isnt bad either) and u can probably run a good psi...like 18+ (ive seen someone run around 22psi...ALOT of f-in power). That prelude might have some torque..but it's gonna need it for that weight. Still nothings stopping u from weight reductions, but there's no way u can get that SH to exceede the LS in boost. And about those RPM's....hehe good luck with that lude...hehehe. And the gs-r headers dont need alot of tourque to carry it....those butterflies will carry it to the finish line easily. And about that interrior....CHANGE IT!! Dont be a stock pussy...if uve got the money for the lude...buy a LS integra...spend bout 2k-3k on the mods in the engine and change the interior with another 2k....in the long run ur spending the same...but ur getting more for ur money...ull have a PIMP ass integra (u'll be suprised) for the same price as a stock prelude.

ps: DON'T be a stock bitch. If you want any respect...build ur own car...bc if ur woman see's ur car sitting on the side of the road...she'll run straight to that guy with an integra....esp the one that just whooped yo ass in that 1/4 race:thefinger

Reading this post was the biggest waste of life!!!:wtf:

are you saying that the b18c5 should have a 6th gear or the h22 should? :confused:The prelude / h22.

Type-R DOHC i-Vtec will own a lude Type SH end of discusion btw whtteg i think its funny you spend all that shit on nitrous and you have LS

Reading this post was the biggest waste of life!!!:wtf: Yeah it was a big waste of time he's a fucking dumb ass Type-R will fuck up an LS i dont care what you can put in it

btw whtteg i think its funny you spend all that shit on nitrous and you have LS
An LS is better to put N20 on, less chance of detonation.

the newest generation preludes look bad as heck dude...go for the prelude...you can pimp it out!! it'll be tight. Tint the window and do some shiznit to it. It'll look bad azz.

Integra only if GSR or Type-R (or have the money to properly build ls)
Prelude only if VTEC (n/a to 5th gen since they're all vtec)

you can't really go wrong with either of the cars

Integra GS-R or Type R.... They look better

PWMAN, A GSR will handle as much boost as an LS if the GSR has lower compression pistons. As for the taller gearing...I rather have VTEC than taller gearing. Also, care to exlplain why LS is less prone to detonation?

Foer everyone else saying Preludes have nicer interiors than Integras...are you comparing the leather interior Prelude to the cloth interior teg or WTF???

To the guy that said Preludes handle better because they're lower and wider, I don't think Preludes are that much wider than Integras. PLus, Preludes are MUCH heavier...a stock Integra will kill a stock Prelude in the handling factor.

im really annoyed by this thread. yes i do own a prelude (97 base) but i have a great deal of respect for integras (esp gs-r's). prelude engines MUST be built to handle boost. the larger displacement h22a4 required honda to put thinner walls on the sleeves...other reasons also.

personal anecdote: bring your n/a gs-r's on...ill take you all day long. my car has next to no mods and i dust two of my buddies who have gs-r's with i/h/e. any race, 1/4 mile, auto x, street,i dont care. the lude handles better, is a quicker straight line car and completely opinionated, look much better.

sorry, im fired up. i love preludes. they have always been a testing ground for honda and their new handling concepts and even engine bases. they have always worked well, there just happened to be troubles with sales. yes, my prelude does cost an assload for insurance but ill trade that all day long for dusting gs-r's!

sorry if ive pissed you guys off,i know im the minority here, but feel me.

i got a 92 lude si and 92 integra gs. i kinda like the lude better. the integra feels narrow as the prelude wide. preludes just feel better when driving. Its a bit nicer too interior and exterior.

"a stock Integra will kill a stock Prelude in the handling factor."

just simply not true whatsoever...the base prelude without the ATTS system will outhandle almost any teg.

I think this thread is begining to become pointless it is just people disagreeing, no real facts, just opinons. Everbody has their own opinon and everybody has their own taste so lets just let it be at that, we all drive a car made by the same manufactor so be happy, you have a honda :p

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I think it's really coming down to what a person owns. If they have a prelude they're trying to convince themselves their car is better (please rephrase that for an integra as the inverse of that statement). It's human nature. Whatever costs more SHOULD be better.

I have a teg, but it's a '90. The cars are nimble and quick. the prludes are heavy though. you can not swing them around corners the way you can a teg. the teg also will have more aftermarket parts. don't get a GS-R. get a LS for less, and add a B16a head and spoon ECU, spoon valvesprings and clutchmasters stage 1 clutch, spoon flywheel for about the same price as a GS-R, but a hell of alot faster.

My XSi is faster than your V-8......

ive also come to the conclusion that these two cars are impossible to compare fairly. thats why honda makes different model cars. they put them in different classes. i sometimes hesitate to refer to my prelude as a "sport compact" because it feels so damn big in comparison to my sivik.

Integra gsr has better 0-60 times than the Prelude SH.

GSR- 7.1 SH- 7.5 Edmunds.com

and the sh has 30 more hp and more torque

this thread is over a month old...let it die.