911 killa

the 2009 nissan gt-r.

anyone else here besides mysef hyped up about this car? can you say, nissan is owned int jgtc with this car with ease, as the 350z wasnt doing it enoug? here is the first review of it.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=124017?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

No offense, but sorta old news. Most of the other forums I belong to have 50+ page threads about the new GT-R. It has really grown on me, though. Concept looked stupid, and in that light silver that they are toting around to the auto shows it looks horrid. However...when you see it in white, that dark titanium, black, or red...nice.

oooo, dont even get me started on the red. i'd want to b a virgin just so it could pop my man cherry with it...o it'd b worth it.

911 killer, eh close company. maybe better price, but people that want the 911 turbo will buy the 911 turbo, they wont even look at a gtr...mainly cause it is a nissan. same reason i'll never buy an nsx, good car if not great, but still a honda, at 50g+ i dont think so. people will buy the 911 and people will buy the gtr.

i learned that people will go with the car they love. u wont pull a vette lover away from vettes, same with the viper lovers. i'll take the 911...mainly cause i think it looks better than the gtr35

The 997 turbo looks nice...

But for fucks sake Porsche, can we get an update on the design. Yes, its classic, I get it, but c'mon. I'd lean more towards the GT-R myself, but every reveiw I've read said its a faster car than the 997.

If you want news look to the new ZR1 Corvette that was just recently released. Easily over 600hp supercharged LS3. I love the CF roof and hood cutut. Also, the vents up towards the front on the side are much more agressive than the Z06's.

http://www.corvetteblog.com/zr1-600(1).jpg

However, I would still have to say I would choose the new Hennessey Viper over the ZR1 with the Hennessey Viper having 678 hp and 645lb/ft torque.....plus better looks IMO.

i know its not 'old' news, but i havent heard anyone say anything about it on here. thats the only real review for the car, which was actually a test drive, so far, so go i posted it. >_<

i want to see one here in the states.

Not an LS3, its an LS9. I have tons of info on it, been getting it in my email, lol. I had two dealerships ask how to get one, and I just laughed. Amazing car. If it were a female, the things I would do to it would be illegaly in many states. As a car, the things I want to do with it would be illegal in every state.

Not an LS3, its an LS9. I have tons of info on it, been getting it in my email, lol. I had two dealerships ask how to get one, and I just laughed. Amazing car. If it were a female, the things I would do to it would be illegaly in many states. As a car, the things I want to do with it would be illegal in every state.

u have a good sense of wit/humor, very good timing. ever thought of being a comedian at like the local comedy club? but i agree with u on that.

the 911 will never really change. even the new zo6 is the same basic design as the early 60's. they won't change it because it's iconic and people like the design. porsche won't change the "teardrop" design of the 911, unless they got rid of it and brought it back a few years later. the viper is the same way, same basic design. the nsx never really changed in it's what 15yr run

I just had a wierd idea.....Does it look like the front end of the new lancer and the new GT-R look similar? Especially the air dam. I dunno could just be me...

not just u...i've noticed it to

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Anybody else notice the weight on that thing.... over 3800 pounds.

i haven't even read a full review on the gtr yet, just like an intro overvieew, stating performance numbers and stuff. i haven't gotten my new mag yet, nor have i really looked at work for the new one's either.

i'd rather spend te 124g on the 997 turbo than the 70g+ on the gtr. i'm not gonna argue that it's b/c of legacy...they both have it. i just like porsche, don't get me wrong i think the red gtr is fricken hot as hell

It's 3800lbs, and it looks fat.

The hell?

Still getting a low 3second 0-60 and an 11sec 1/4 at 120. Hard numbers to argue against. Would be even better if it went on Jenny Craig tho...

If you go to youtube andd search for GT-R Motor Build, You can see a reason why the thing ways so much the motor it self looks 4 feet tall.

I have massive respect for the performance figures put down by the GT-R, but it is ugly as sin. I would feel rediculous driving around town in one of those. As a racing car it should be fantastic, but I doubt it is as drivable as a 911. I also don't like that they aren't offering a manual transmission. Supposedly Nissan is also taking measures to make any tuning of the ECU nearly impossible.

I have massive respect for the performance figures put down by the GT-R, but it is ugly as sin. I would feel rediculous driving around town in one of those. As a racing car it should be fantastic, but I doubt it is as drivable as a 911. I also don't like that they aren't offering a manual transmission. Supposedly Nissan is also taking measures to make any tuning of the ECU nearly impossible.

It may be ugly, but at least its not bland. I used to love the looks of the 911 series, but really, I'm hoping for an update beyond the headlights sometime soon. At least it hasn't been Bangleized. And every review I have read has said as a DD, its amazingly quiet and easy to drive. And they aren't the only one going to such extremes by locking out the ECU. Everyone is doing that now. It wont be long till the only way to tune anything that didn't come stock with an SBC is by bolt ons alone.

did anyone read that it has a rear transaxel like a corvette, and that for the front drive it basically has another drive shaft that goes all the way back up front. Strange, but who am I to argue, what other 3800 pound car posts such performance numbers.

did anyone read that it has a rear transaxel like a corvette, and that for the front drive it basically has another drive shaft that goes all the way back up front. Strange, but who am I to argue, what other 3800 pound car posts such performance numbers.

Its mounted at an angle, so that when you accelerate, it shifts into two parallel shafts.

I think I have every magazine review on this thing, and I do like it. The thing that gets me is that its being passed off as some sort of performance bargain. I have seen prices quoted at anywhere between 70 and 85 grand. None would surprise me. I don't necessarily think its an outrageous price when considering the type of car, but those prices put it right there with z06s and Vipers. From the looks of it, if you spend 70-85 thousand than you are getting the same performance as a Z06 or Viper. Don't get me wrong, my head will certainly turn for this car, and I like it, but if I was spending 85 thousand on a sports car this car would not really stand out from the crowd in any measurable way. (by crowd I am talking about cars in its class)

I think I have every magazine review on this thing, and I do like it. The thing that gets me is that its being passed off as some sort of performance bargain. I have seen prices quoted at anywhere between 70 and 85 grand. None would surprise me. I don't necessarily think its an outrageous price when considering the type of car, but those prices put it right there with z06s and Vipers. From the looks of it, if you spend 70-85 thousand than you are getting the same performance as a Z06 or Viper. Don't get me wrong, my head will certainly turn for this car, and I like it, but if I was spending 85 thousand on a sports car this car would not really stand out from the crowd in any measurable way. (by crowd I am talking about cars in its class)
i don't necessarily agree with you, but i can definitely see your point. you could argue it both ways. if you consider performance only when you look at the price tag then i agree, but the interior on the GTR is much nicer than the Z06 and the viper, not to mention the GTR's AWD so it could be driven daily and/or in inclement weather should the need arise. not to mention gas consumption, a 7.0L V8 and an 8.3 V10 are gonna suck gas down considerably faster than a 3.8. i may be wrong but i don't think the GTR falls victim to the gas guzzler tax which is gonna tack an extra couple grand on the price tag should you go with the z06 or viper.

then again, consider that MSRP is only a suggested retail price. i guarantee that dealerships are gonna jack that price up considerably once the GTR hits show rooms like what happened with STI's and Evo's when they came out. and as good as the reviews have been on the dual clutch auto tranny thing, i want a freakin' 6 (or 7) speed manual or at least the option to have one, which is where the American counterparts won't leave you hanging. it's a toss up, it all depends on what you're looking for for your near $100,000 investment. personally, i'd take any one of them in a heart beat.

I don't think it's being called a 'sports-car' ... more like a GT car.

That way you can argue for the price, it doesn't have to seriously out perform cars like the Z06 and Viper. It's not in the same 'category'. That's how I perceive it.

i don't necessarily agree with you, but i can definitely see your point. you could argue it both ways. if you consider performance only when you look at the price tag then i agree, but the interior on the GTR is much nicer than the Z06 and the viper, not to mention the GTR's AWD so it could be driven daily and/or in inclement weather should the need arise. not to mention gas consumption, a 7.0L V8 and an 8.3 V10 are gonna suck gas down considerably faster than a 3.8. i may be wrong but i don't think the GTR falls victim to the gas guzzler tax which is gonna tack an extra couple grand on the price tag should you go with the z06 or viper.

then again, consider that MSRP is only a suggested retail price. i guarantee that dealerships are gonna jack that price up considerably once the GTR hits show rooms like what happened with STI's and Evo's when they came out. and as good as the reviews have been on the dual clutch auto tranny thing, i want a freakin' 6 (or 7) speed manual or at least the option to have one, which is where the American counterparts won't leave you hanging. it's a toss up, it all depends on what you're looking for for your near $100,000 investment. personally, i'd take any one of them in a heart beat.


Your facts aren't quite straight with all of that. The engine size does not directly correlate to fuel consumption. The GTR is estimated at 15/21 or 15/22 depending on the source, the Z06 is estimated at 16/26, and the Viper is estimated 11/19. The Vipers numbers are pretty low, and its taxed accordingly I am sure, but the Vette is not taxed as it is the first 500+ hp production car to avoid the tax. I would have to take issue on the interior only because I have not sat in a GTR to judge. I have only sat in the standard C6 as well, so I really can't judge the Z06 which I have heard is not completely the same on the inside either. Interior space I am sure would be better in the GTR if that is in fact an issue.
As far as the inclement weather is concerned, I don't think anyone would be taking their 80000 dollar sports car (or touring car) out if they knew it was going to rain too hard. I don't think any of the mentioned cars here would let you sit in the rain, or be too dangerous to make it where you wanted to be. I am sure they are all equiped with dry tires so none will stop any better in the rain. AWD will afford more traction during hard acceleration, and hard cornering, neither of which I would be doing in bad conditions with these cars. Also, as the saying goes, this car might have four wheel drive, but they all have four wheel stop.
Again, I am not ragging on this car at all. How could I not love a nissan that runs 11s from the factory? By the way did anyone see the shots of the navi/combination of readouts on this thing? That is pretty cool. They said that the Gran Turismo guy is the one they hired to make it all look nice and make sure all the menus are kosher.

Your facts aren't quite straight with all of that. The engine size does not directly correlate to fuel consumption. The GTR is estimated at 15/21 or 15/22 depending on the source, the Z06 is estimated at 16/26, and the Viper is estimated 11/19. The Vipers numbers are pretty low, and its taxed accordingly I am sure, but the Vette is not taxed as it is the first 500+ hp production car to avoid the tax. I would have to take issue on the interior only because I have not sat in a GTR to judge. I have only sat in the standard C6 as well, so I really can't judge the Z06 which I have heard is not completely the same on the inside either. Interior space I am sure would be better in the GTR if that is in fact an issue.
As far as the inclement weather is concerned, I don't think anyone would be taking their 80000 dollar sports car (or touring car) out if they knew it was going to rain too hard. I don't think any of the mentioned cars here would let you sit in the rain, or be too dangerous to make it where you wanted to be. I am sure they are all equiped with dry tires so none will stop any better in the rain. AWD will afford more traction during hard acceleration, and hard cornering, neither of which I would be doing in bad conditions with these cars. Also, as the saying goes, this car might have four wheel drive, but they all have four wheel stop.
Again, I am not ragging on this car at all. How could I not love a nissan that runs 11s from the factory? By the way did anyone see the shots of the navi/combination of readouts on this thing? That is pretty cool. They said that the Gran Turismo guy is the one they hired to make it all look nice and make sure all the menus are kosher.

Yeah that is amazing how the Vette can get that good of gas mileage with that much power. However, people that have those cars probably aren't too concerned with MPG. And on the note of people driving expensive cars in bad weather, I saw a guy driving his Porsche GT2 in Omaha a few days ago when the snow was melting on the streets and salt had been laid.

Damn, what are the odds? Its rare to see a GT2, let alone in the snow.