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The SUV challenge.


Deakins
12-08-2002, 03:26 PM
Luxury SUV comparison time :D

What is your favourit; I'm Volkswagen biased, but I still think the Touareg the better choice in this poll.


Volkswagen Touareg
http://www.vwvortex.com/resources/gallery/vw/touareg/touareg_1/images/large/05.jpg
Lincoln Aviator
http://www.velocityphotos.com//images/stk/2003/ln2003aviator01.jpg

Jimster
12-08-2002, 05:11 PM
Touareg without a second thought, however the Porsche Cayenne S is the SUV for Jimmy (At least until he can afford a Turbo) This thing absolutley SCORCHES off road:eek:

WakkaWu
12-08-2002, 05:12 PM
My choice is the Cadillac Escalade.Why isnt that in there anyway.Thats more of a luxury SUV than have the SUV's up there.

WakkaWu
12-08-2002, 05:14 PM
And can one of you guys post pics of the Aviator and the Touraeg?Thanks:)

YJHeD
12-08-2002, 06:54 PM
Jeep Grand Cherokee. Best SUV out there right now.

Deakins
12-09-2002, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by WakkaWu
My choice is the Cadillac Escalade.Why isnt that in there anyway.Thats more of a luxury SUV than have the SUV's up there.

The price tag...

WakkaWu
12-09-2002, 07:08 AM
BMW X5...price tag.Whats wrong with the Escalades price tag?I dont know what most of those SUV's go for but the Lexus and BMW is higher than the Caddi if your saying ots too expensive.

Deakins
12-09-2002, 07:41 AM
MSRP:
X5: $39.500
GX: $44.925
Escalade: $53.995

WakkaWu
12-09-2002, 03:06 PM
Holy crap.You serious about those prices.I know the Escalades but I thought the other two were much higher.High price tag or not the Escalade is a luxury SUV and therfore it should be up there.

YogsVR4
12-09-2002, 03:47 PM
While we were getting the Spyder serviced a few months ago, we went to the Lexus department and took out a LX470 for the afternoon. That was a very nice ride. I dont think it was worth the 65K. It was underpowered compared to the Escalade we drove before that.

del
12-09-2002, 04:38 PM
check my thread bout best luxury suv. it's older so it doesn't include some of the newer models.

WakkaWu
12-09-2002, 04:51 PM
On second thought if you took the highest prices of all of them:
BMW X5-$68,837
Lexus GX-$45,500
VW Touareg-Couldnt find a price on that one
Acura MDX-$45,045
Lincoln Aviator-$45,865
GMC Envoy-$34,902


The best and most expensive Escalade you can buy is the Escalade ESV which cost $52,391
All these according to edmunds.com
Like I said,pricy or not,its a luxury SUV and should be up there.

Polygon
12-09-2002, 08:04 PM
You have a damn VW SUV up there but you don't have the Limited Grand Cherokee. Bah, this poll is worthless. The Jeep is the only real choice for usability and luxury. I would love to see you take one of those off road, and I don't mean whimpy ass dirt roads. They are all a waste of money to me. I'll take a Jeep please.

WakkaWu
12-09-2002, 08:41 PM
Again...luxury SUV's.Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited is not a luxury SUV.They arent very reliable either.Just because it says "Limited" on it does not meen its luxury.

Neutrino
12-11-2002, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by WakkaWu
Again...luxury SUV's.Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited is not a luxury SUV.They arent very reliable either.Just because it says "Limited" on it does not meen its luxury.

Ok i'll give you that the Grand Cherokee is not as luxurious as the other ones but is still quite nice and offers plenty of comfort. And at least still has the balls to go offroad(and i mean serious offroading). And not reliable? what the heck you talking about the jeeps are among the most realiable cars on the road.

WakkaWu
12-11-2002, 06:53 AM
Its good for off-roading.Its not reliable though.They have tons of engine problems and most of the ones I have been in are all falling appart inside.

gummyshoe
12-11-2002, 08:30 AM
I have a '96 Grand Cherokee with 90,000 miles on it. No engine problems what-so ever. My mother ran it 13,000 miles once until the crankcase was empty. Then added 5 quarts of oil to it and kept driving. It also hauled my Wrangler home 1500 miles with no problem at all. The 5.2L V8 as well as the 4.7L V8 are one of the most reliable on the market. Oh yeah, and my interior is flawless. :flipa:

WakkaWu
12-11-2002, 11:25 AM
I have a '96 Grand Cherokee with 90,000 miles on it. No engine problems what-so ever. My mother ran it 13,000 miles once until the crankcase was empty. Then added 5 quarts of oil to it and kept driving. It also hauled my Wrangler home 1500 miles with no problem at all. The 5.2L V8 as well as the 4.7L V8 are one of the most reliable on the market. Oh yeah, and my interior is flawless.



Any SUV can go 90K without problems.And all cars run on oil so because your jeep ran on oil doesnt make it special.And again,any SUV can haul a tiny wrangler.Im telling you,most of them have engine problems.My neighbors died at 110K.Thats reliable?:flipa:

WakkaWu
12-11-2002, 11:33 AM
The point is that he wanted Cherokee up there but its not even close to being the best SUV.

Polygon
12-11-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by WakkaWu
Again...luxury SUV's.Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited is not a luxury SUV.They arent very reliable either.Just because it says "Limited" on it does not meen its luxury.

And the Envoy is? Give me a damn break. :rolleyes:

I have a 1999 Limited Grand Cherokee and it is pretty damn nice on the inside. It has a lot of options that I bet you don't even know that they have, plus as I said, the ones on your list aren't SUVs, they are useless off roading, they are SVs, they have no utility abpout them.

Originally posted by WakkaWu
The point is that he wanted Cherokee up there but its not even close to being the best SUV.

:rolleyes:

Jimster
12-11-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Polygon
plus as I said, the ones on your list aren't SUVs, they are useless off roading, they are SVs, they have no utility abpout them.



The Touareg has plenty of off-road ability as Porsche- who makes the SUV with world-class off-roading ability (The Cayenne) helped VW develop the Touraeg- hence I have high expectations of the Touaregs off-road ability

gummyshoe
12-11-2002, 07:55 PM
WakkaWu--No, not every SUV can haul a Wrangler full of equipment through the Rock Mountains. I'd like to see a Hyundai or a Honda CRV do that. And I said the Grand Cherokee was run until the crankcase was empty, meaning it was run with NO oil in it. Oh yeah, and this was done in July in southern California.

S Brake
12-11-2002, 09:49 PM
if we're only talking SUV's then the X5 shouldn't be up there either, it is technically a Sports Activity Vehicle. It is also my pick, 4.6is 0wns me!

Jimster
12-11-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by snowboarder
if we're only talking SUV's then the X5 shouldn't be up there either, it is technically a Sports Activity Vehicle. It is also my pick, 4.6is 0wns me!


Cayenne Turbo>4.6is

4.6is>All the other SUV's exceptfor the Cayenne Turbo



It's all about teh Bling Bling :finger:



btw- WHERES THE MERCEDES ML500 :mad:

WakkaWu
12-12-2002, 12:53 AM
And the Envoy is? Give me a damn break.


The envoy is quite the luxury SUV.


I have a 1999 Limited Grand Cherokee and it is pretty damn nice on the inside. It has a lot of options that I bet you don't even know that they have, plus as I said, the ones on your list aren't SUVs, they are useless off roading, they are SVs, they have no utility abpout them.

Sorry but its not my list.And ALL of those are SUV's.Why do you say there not.Cherokee is an off-roading SUV not luxury.You want luxury get an Escalade(which can also go off-roading with no problem)or any of the one that were up there.

WakkaWu--No, not every SUV can haul a Wrangler full of equipment through the Rock Mountains. I'd like to see a Hyundai or a Honda CRV do that. And I said the Grand Cherokee was run until the crankcase was empty, meaning it was run with NO oil in it. Oh yeah, and this was done in July in southern California.


I agree.But the ones up there can.You took your cherokee and dragged a Wrangler through mountains.Now be specific here so people know what your trying to say.You took it on paved roads that wents trough the mountains for 1500 miles.And if you ran your Jeep on no oil thats stupid and you probably took 10,000 miles of your engines life.

if we're only talking SUV's then the X5 shouldn't be up there either, it is technically a Sports Activity Vehicle. It is also my pick, 4.6is 0wns me!


Dude,its an SUV.

Neutrino
10-12-2004, 10:33 PM
For crying out loud people don't vote in two year old threads.

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