Blu-Ray > HD DVD

2.7 million Blu-ray players have been sold thus far as opposed to the 700,000 HD DVD players. This year during Black Friday, blu-ray disc sales had 72.6% of the sales where as the HD DVD had a much smaller 27.4% hand in the sales.

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I work in a warehouse that for the biggest electronics store in Nebraska. I load up people's cars with the merchandise they have just bought in the store. In the last few months, I have taken out 2 HD DVD players. Almost every single day I work, I take out on average around 5 Blu-ray players. People argue this but it is almost absurd to think that HD DVD will win. And we won't have a winner because there were some $198 HD DVD that broadcast a whoping 1080i :rolleyes:. Though HD DVD is cheaper, it still will not win. Same reason American car companies have struggled dearly to import manufacturers. Though they can be more expensive, the quality is better. The Blu-ray disc holds more, is extremely hard to scratch, and is not cutting corners with cheap shit less quality blu-ray players. Say what you will, but there is little or no hope if you own the HD DVD player. It was sketchy before, but all sales indicate Blu-Ray > HD DVD.

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I've been waiting patiently for the sales figures to decide the winner. It'll still probably be a few years before I invest in HD - after all, it's still the same old shit at a higher resolution.

Word. I'll definitely know what to buy when i'm ready then. I'm in no hurry to spend money on the new stuff either since I don't plan on purchasing an HD TV anytime soon.

While Blu-ray looks nice, not enough for me to get a player or even PS3, nothing but Blu ray movies, and a new TV. Too much investment, but I'll put it on the registry! :D

50GB on a disk FTW!

I'm really glad that Blu Ray Disc is winning. For one thing, I have a PS3. Another thing is that it holds 50GB instead of 20GB. And when I said 2.7 million Blu Ray players were sold, that did not include the over 11 million PS3's sold that have Blu Ray players. While you can get an add-on HD DVD for the XBOX 360 (then agian what don't you have to pay extra for, for the 360?). Even still, HD DVD is clearly dwindling. Sorry for those who have it.

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I've been waiting patiently for the sales figures to decide the winner. It'll still probably be a few years before I invest in HD - after all, it's still the same old shit at a higher resolution.

Hold on to that state of thought my friend because once you experience HD on a regular basis it is very hard to go back. :lol:

Here are some other reports as well. Turns out that Blu Ray is kicking even more ass in other parts of the world.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/27/blu-ray-outsells-hd-dvd

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/23/bd_dominates_japan_hd_r_sales/

I could care less who really wins. I would honestly rather see both take a dump. Anyhow, like OZ pointed out. It's a waste of money to buy into it now. Then again, I'm not an early adopter. I like to let other people do the beta testing first and then I buy when it comes down in price.

Besides the difference in picture quality isn't that great. It's noticeable but nothing like going from VHS to DVD.

I could care less who really wins. I would honestly rather see both take a dump. Anyhow, like OZ pointed out. It's a waste of money to buy into it now. Then again, I'm not an early adopter. I like to let other people do the beta testing first and then I buy when it comes down in price.

Besides the difference in picture quality isn't that great. It's noticeable but nothing like going from VHS to DVD.


It can be more noticable on some things than others. Natural picuters (taken out in the wilderness or capturing a large area like a city) it is very noticable. Whenever I play a Blu Ray instead of a DVD it is very noticable to me. I hate going back and watching DVD's now.

To be honest, I probably watch a maximum of 2 hours of TV a week at the moment because there's nothing but shite on, I'm too tight (and disinterested) to pay for cable and there are about a million other things I would rather do - read a book, go fishing, go swimming, go to the beach, surf the web, go for a run, muck about with a computer or have a beer with my brothers.

It can be more noticable on some things than others. Natural picuters (taken out in the wilderness or capturing a large area like a city) it is very noticable. Whenever I play a Blu Ray instead of a DVD it is very noticable to me. I hate going back and watching DVD's now.

Yeah. I've seen all kinds of things at 1080p and I still don't think there is enough of a difference to justify the cost right now.

^Ditto. If I had a PS3, i might selectivly buy certain movies, but aside from that. They cost more for one. But this idea also includes me having an HDTV and I don't. No need.

Yeah. I've seen all kinds of things at 1080p and I still don't think there is enough of a difference to justify the cost right now.


Yeah, it is spendy. I bought a flat panel LCD about 8 months ago and then after that I bought a PS3 so I figured I might as well play some Blu Ray! :runaround:

Yeah, it is spendy. I bought a flat panel LCD about 8 months ago and then after that I bought a PS3 so I figured I might as well play some Blu Ray! :runaround:

Yeah, if you've got it mind as well use it. I still have my Sony Viao CRT. :lol:

I might buy an OLED LCD sometime next year.

Well, HD-DVD has finally given up the ghost as they are dropping out. Sorry to any peeps who had bought the HD-DVD player....time to go get a Blu-Ray. :p

OLED's are RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I saw one that was like 11" and it was about $2,600! Unbelievable picture but definately not even close to worth the price.

Give it time, it will drop in price as it's the future of panels.

I personally wanted Blu Ray to die, actually I didn't care for either format. Props to Sony for finally, legitimately, winning a format war.

Neither format comes out a winner in the face of down loadable content. Why would I buy a player and then pay again for a hard copy of content when I can just download it? Blu-ray didn't come out ahead, Sony just chooses to continue with a technology that will be obsoleted soon while the HD people made a wise market decision to get out of the business while the getting is good.

Neither format comes out a winner in the face of down loadable content. Why would I buy a player and then pay again for a hard copy of content when I can just download it? Blu-ray didn't come out ahead, Sony just chooses to continue with a technology that will be obsoleted soon while the HD people made a wise market decision to get out of the business while the getting is good.


If you think digital distribution is going to knock out blu ray anytime in the near future your just living under a rock. I would much rather buy a dvd than buy and download a movie. I bought the 360 hd dvd player last fall for the bonus' alone. 179.99 for the player, got king kong and 300 for free upon purchase and another 5 HD dvds for free through MS(perfect storm, chronicles of riddick, constantine, 4 brothers, and The Rundown). So that was 7 free movies, and on top of that, with the recent news about blu-ray coming out on top, Bestbuy sent me a $50 gift card because they are no longer servicing the drive. Im not mad at all the hd dvd lost. I can now pick up a ton of hddvds for next to nothing.

While im not saying digital distribution will never happen. Because in my lifetime(23) im sure it will. But right now...not close. To many people in the US dont have high speed internet coupled with an hd tv. It just wouldnt make sense to force the issue on everyone.

You can already download 1080p HD releases.

Not to mention they didn't say what kind of download. Those eliminating the idea of paying...see? :rolleyes:

Never the less, movies will become like music, though not as soon as their game is just starting in comparison. Give it time though. All things will be through the internetz!!!1!!!111

While downloading in HD will happen no doubt, Blu-Ray will continue to persist. Just like people still by CD's. To say Blu-Ray will be beat out by downloads is a bit obtuse.

You can already download 1080p HD releases.


I know you can already dl full hd movies...hence xb0ox live marketplace. But those movies are a bit large. I have no doubt that digital distribution WILL happen. Just not anytime soon. The HD space and bandwidth are just not here right now. Sure some people(VERY FEW) could download a full hd movie in a timely manner, but most of us cant.

I know you can already dl full hd movies...hence xb0ox live marketplace. But those movies are a bit large. I have no doubt that digital distribution WILL happen. Just not anytime soon. The HD space and bandwidth are just not here right now. Sure some people(VERY FEW) could download a full hd movie in a timely manner, but most of us cant.

Come on dude, what are you talking about. Japan and Korea have built FTTN networks pushing 30-50 MBps synchronous, they can almost stream 1080P already.

Even if you can only get a meagre ~6 MBps DSL or Cable connection, you can probably get it overnight or within a day of starting the download - still pretty reasonable compared to ordering it from a catalog and getting a physical disk posted to you - which would surely take at least a day.

OK, no one can realistically stream a 1080P movie yet, but it won't be very long at all until someone can. Probably when the uptake of IP6 goes crazy and Jumbo Frames are approved for use on the internet.

Come on dude, what are you talking about. Japan and Korea have built FTTN networks pushing 30-50 MBps synchronous, they can almost stream 1080P already.

Even if you can only get a meagre ~6 MBps DSL or Cable connection, you can probably get it overnight or within a day of starting the download - still pretty reasonable compared to ordering it from a catalog and getting a physical disk posted to you - which would surely take at least a day.

OK, no one can realistically stream a 1080P movie yet, but it won't be very long at all until someone can. Probably when the uptake of IP6 goes crazy and Jumbo Frames are approved for use on the internet.


Im not saying it wont happen. But right now a very small percentage of people would be able to actually use the feature. Look at how many people actuall have cable or higher for internet. Then look at the amount of those same people that have HDTVs. Its not a large percentage at all.

For the bandwidth impaired some satellite TV providers can now download up to 5 movies to your DVR overnight. Much more convenient than pay per view, you can watch them over and over and whenever you want to for up to a month for a fee but you have to rent the equipment also.

I've just started working in online book, cd and DVD retailing.

CD's are dead, sales are going down, and will not go back up.
With in 5 years they will be a specialist item only, like vinyl records.

DVD's will not be far behind them, as soon as delivery speeds are up to the task, they will go the same way as the CD, only in much less time.