civic prop valve vs si one.
FrodoGT
12-07-2007, 01:03 AM
Hey guys, ive found someone selling the rear disk setup off an si for 50 bucks.
Now i know whats involved in the swap and the parts needed to do it from a teg. But I had a question on the proportioning valve, and also on the brake sizes.
As far as I know the teg had the same rear brake size as the crx correct? Also, if I swap the disks onto my civic will I need the prop valve from the si? I know you need it for the teg swap but are they different between the two civics?
Now i know whats involved in the swap and the parts needed to do it from a teg. But I had a question on the proportioning valve, and also on the brake sizes.
As far as I know the teg had the same rear brake size as the crx correct? Also, if I swap the disks onto my civic will I need the prop valve from the si? I know you need it for the teg swap but are they different between the two civics?
turtlecrxsi
12-07-2007, 10:40 AM
I believe the crx si rear discs are smaller than the integra... not sure.
Yes, I believe you need the prop valve.
Ugh... I wish I had my crx still. At least I'd be able to take pics and post up what it all looks like even if I didn't drive the car. And based on the examples I've been seeing lately, I wish I had kept it and just redid the suspension, driver side rocker, fender, roof (maybe glass top) and painted. Hell, I'd probably even have a b-series by now... :lol:
Yes, I believe you need the prop valve.
Ugh... I wish I had my crx still. At least I'd be able to take pics and post up what it all looks like even if I didn't drive the car. And based on the examples I've been seeing lately, I wish I had kept it and just redid the suspension, driver side rocker, fender, roof (maybe glass top) and painted. Hell, I'd probably even have a b-series by now... :lol:
Christ
12-07-2007, 01:21 PM
you don't NEED the prop valve, but it will retain the stock 60/40 braking system (or maybe it's 70/30)... either way, there won't be enough pressure going to the rear brakes to stop you effectively... so yes, you SHOULD use the new prop valve, if you can get one, but no, it's not NECESSARY, however, NOT using it may actually INCREASE your stopping distance.
FrodoGT
12-07-2007, 04:09 PM
Yeah I know that without it the brakes wont be effective. I just wasnt sure if the crx had a different one, because I know with the integra swap its needed. Its ok though I can get it off him when I go to pick up the brakes. The only problem is that the right lca is snapped in half... so no sway bar for me for awhile. The integra one is the same right? Ok, better question is..is it EXACTLY the same. Like if I used one from the crx and one from an integra would the alignment still be right and would the sway still mount up once I got one?
Christ
12-08-2007, 12:24 AM
I don't wanna say yes for sure, but I've been told several times that they're the same, and you don't need the LCA/trailing arm to do the swap.. that part I know for sure, I've already done it in a junkyard w/o the rest of the crap, just didn't buy it.
All you really need for the swap is the spindles, and the hubs, believe it or not.. it's just a pain to get those torx bolts out...
So, in essence, I wanna say yes, they're the same, but I'm not 100% on it, b/c the 'teg sway bar (I think) is bigger than the CRX bar. the mounting locations should be the same tho.
All you really need for the swap is the spindles, and the hubs, believe it or not.. it's just a pain to get those torx bolts out...
So, in essence, I wanna say yes, they're the same, but I'm not 100% on it, b/c the 'teg sway bar (I think) is bigger than the CRX bar. the mounting locations should be the same tho.
FrodoGT
12-08-2007, 12:38 AM
Yeah well if I just do the hibs I wont have the mounting points. And one of the lca's are coming with the brakes because he cant get it off without heat, like I said the other is snapped.
Christ
12-08-2007, 02:01 AM
yeah, I know all that, I'm just saying tho, you don't actually need the LCA's to do the swap... IOW, you can swap out one, then change the other one later, if you need to, to get the sway in there.
FrodoGT
12-08-2007, 11:31 AM
So they are the same dimensions? I know my civic and the crx are but im trying to figure out if the teggy has the same specs. I would run one integra arm and one crx arm..
Christ
12-08-2007, 03:27 PM
I was gonna ask what year teg it was, but it has to be a 90 or newer if you're doing it to your car... so, that said, yes, they're the same dimensions.
FrodoGT
12-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Word..
Christ
12-08-2007, 09:51 PM
IOW< you can swap just one, be fine w/ it until you get the other one, then swap out the other one, and put the bar in there at the same time.
FrodoGT
12-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Thats what I wanted to hear
Christ
12-09-2007, 01:31 AM
well, that's why I said it... but do yourself a favor, b/c I've been wrong before... just go to a junkyard quick and see if you can swap it over.. if it looks the same, then it is the same.. the only things that are going to be different are the holes in the LCA/Trailing arm, and if anything else is different, it will be quite noticeable before you even try to put it on.
FrodoGT
12-09-2007, 01:59 AM
I know the teg has larger bushing on the rta, but the lca is where im fuzzy. I know thye swap over, and nobody mentions alignment issues so I guess im safe
Christ
12-09-2007, 01:05 PM
yeah, I dont see a problem w/ it. Even if you only swapped one trailing arm, they're supposed to be the same as well.
Ones&zeros
12-10-2007, 01:22 AM
integra's prop. valve says "4040" on it some where small.
FrodoGT
12-10-2007, 03:45 PM
yeah i know. im getting the one with the crx rears..but since im gonna have to change my hubs now because of the small axles..Ill be needing one from the teg that I take them from. Big brakes ftmfw
Christ
12-11-2007, 01:14 AM
wtf is ftw? I've seen it so many times, and used to knwo what it meant, but I can't think of it, and I've googled it like 8 times now, and can't find it... WTF IS IT? lol
FrodoGT
12-11-2007, 01:21 AM
For...the...win!
Christ
12-11-2007, 01:24 AM
well, that's not what I thought... (fuck the world) but I couldn't understand why I would see it so much on things that it made no sense on.
Like... Take your thermal couple off and change it FTW... (fuck the world???? wtf?)
Like... Take your thermal couple off and change it FTW... (fuck the world???? wtf?)
FrodoGT
12-11-2007, 01:25 AM
HAHAHAHA, wow. Youve just been educated.
Christ
12-11-2007, 01:27 AM
good good.. I used to think "TTT" meant something completely elsewise too... but we won't go there.. women, offensive language, etc.
Ones&zeros
12-12-2007, 02:22 AM
i think if the civic's prop. valve says 4040 on it, it'd be the same as the teggy's
FrodoGT
12-12-2007, 02:59 AM
wtf does ttt mean anyway? Ive always been lost on that one
Christ
12-12-2007, 01:45 PM
TTT == To The Top
It's kinda like "bump" when a thread is dying off w/o replies, only usually used by the OP.
OP == Original Poster... in case you didn't know.
It's kinda like "bump" when a thread is dying off w/o replies, only usually used by the OP.
OP == Original Poster... in case you didn't know.
FrodoGT
12-12-2007, 03:35 PM
omg..i get it now. And im pretty up on my 1337 speak
Christ
12-13-2007, 01:31 AM
haha... I saw a last post on another forum about someone putting a B20A5 head on a EW/D16A1 block and the end post was about how the B20 couldn't rev much and had shitty power... and it \/\/45 /-\|_|_ |*()5+3|) |_1|<3 +|-|15 (Was all posted like this) needless to say, noone bothered replying to it.
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