Gotta get away from the V-8 Blues

Looking for an integra to replace my type r which burned in August. I have a vette now and I am in the process of getting out of it. NEED RICE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks

ummm...........why in gods name would you want a piece -o- crap rice rocket over a vette......but wait a minute, im sorry, a 4 cylinder import will make MUCH more power than a vette, what was i thinking....

bowtiepride95-what are you smoking cuz i want some of that shit! Are you retarded? A vette makes a shit more power than ANY n/a stock 4 cylinder (well, at least more than a type r).

HEY dumbass, i was being sarcastic.....no Sh*$ sherlock a vette will make more power than any 4 cylinder.......i cant stand most imports (except for the wrx, lancer and HYUNDAI TIBURON)

when was the last time you saw a car without a rocket strapped to it that ran less than a 6 second 1/4 mile, I believe it was when i saw a RX-7 owning it up at the tracks, running a 5.2. BTW chevy is "LIKE A ROCK" because it just sits there and DOESNT MOVE, just like a ROCK.

Seriously, what are you thinking that you would buy a camaro? Those are the crappiest cars on earth EXCEPT for cavaliers and mustangs. And don't give me your V8 shit. That car needs 8 cylinders b/c half the cylinders are even working most of the time....and they are still slow as hell.

Originally posted by sameintheend01
Seriously, what are you thinking that you would buy a camaro? Those are the crappiest cars on earth EXCEPT for cavaliers and mustangs. And don't give me your V8 shit. That car needs 8 cylinders b/c half the cylinders are even working most of the time....and they are still slow as hell.

WTF are you talking about?

-Grendel

WTF are you talking about?

ummm, i know what a good car is???

Originally posted by sameintheend01


ummm, i know what a good car is???

Just keep telling yourself that k?

-Grendel

Originally posted by sameintheend01
Seriously, what are you thinking that you would buy a camaro? Those are the crappiest cars on earth EXCEPT for cavaliers and mustangs. And don't give me your V8 shit. That car needs 8 cylinders b/c half the cylinders are even working most of the time....and they are still slow as hell.

HAHAHA

Ok Mr. Racer.

What do you drive?

Seriously, what are you thinking that you would buy a camaro? Those are the crappiest cars on earth EXCEPT for cavaliers and mustangs. And don't give me your V8 shit. That car needs 8 cylinders b/c half the cylinders are even working most of the time....and they are still slow as hell.

are you just a raging idiot?

i got a 2000 integra ls and a 1986 mercedes 420 sel. Yes, i know what a good car is. Yes, i am raging. No, i'm not an idiot.

Ok, we established you're not an idiot...

So you should know that stock for stock a Z28 would murder your Integra.

for example
1997 Integra Type-R = 15.3
1998 Camaro Z28 = 13.7

Thats stock vs Stock. Now take into account many Z28s dont remain stock for very long. Open up the intake and exhaust and you've added almost 40 horsepower if not more.

True, lots of people 'mod' Integras and other such imports but it takes good money to get one into the range of a stock Z28.

Oh, you stated you liked Cavaliers.. is it cause they only run a 16.1 in the quarter? Something you can probably beat?

And Mustangs are'nt a GM product... Which I'm sure you knew.:)

Might I also point out that you defend the Corvette, yet bash the Camaro.

You realise they are powered by the same motor, Depending on ther year either a LT-1 or LS-1. The Z06 carries an LS-6, which isnt all that different.

First of all, i wasn't talking about the speed of the cars. No kidding an 8 cylinder is gonna be faster than a 4-banger.

Second, why are you in an integra forum.

Third, your Nova kicks ass. I was gonna get either that (same color) or a chevelle, but I need something more reliable for school. I guess I'll have to wait a couple mroe years for that.

BTW, i said I hated cavaliers.

But 40 hp on a car that makes 3xx hp is < than 20-25 hp on a car with 1xx hp car. So the difference is going to be the same...

I didn't really know taht ppl modded camaros more than integras....have you heard of rice rockets before (im not asian, i dont have one).

Originally posted by sameintheend01
First of all, i wasn't talking about the speed of the cars. No kidding an 8 cylinder is gonna be faster than a 4-banger.

Second, why are you in an integra forum.

Third, your Nova kicks ass. I was gonna get either that (same color) or a chevelle, but I need something more reliable for school. I guess I'll have to wait a couple mroe years for that.

BTW, i said I hated cavaliers.

But 40 hp on a car that makes 3xx hp is < than 20-25 hp on a car with 1xx hp car. So the difference is going to be the same...

I didn't really know taht ppl modded camaros more than integras....have you heard of rice rockets before (im not asian, i dont have one).


Cavaliers, Sorry I missread what you said. I apologize.

Thanks for the compliment on the car, Although the one pictured isnt mine. But mine does look fairly similar. Its just easier to link a picture than to put up a crappy picture of my car on a website than link it to here.

I never said people upgrade more Camaro's than Integra's. I just stated that both cars get modified. And yes, I've heard of rice... it's rather unpleasing to the eye at time. Some Import/Domestic rice owners choose some of the most god-awful flouresecnt colors. I'd rather stare at the sun than at the car...

Oh yeah, forgot to add as to Why I'm in the Integra Forum

1. I saw the topic in the 'latest discussions' box when coming onto the site, It looked interesting so I looked into it.

2. I frequently visit the Honda/Acura forum because its usually always has something new in it. If you look at the Chevy forum you'll notice there isnt a bustle of activity.

3. Plus I dont think a domestic owners point of view could hurt anything?

Hey man i usually dont post but, I just wanted to say i have a basically stock integra and i can beat older z-28's and some v8 mustangs 94-95.
All i have is i/h/e and some pulleys, and the good thing about it is i get 32 miles a gallon.

Im 17 and had about all of them. I had a V6 camaro, not to slow, but not too fast, a 2000 SS, automatic, so fast if i stomped it at 35 the wheels would role, and now a 2000 Mustang, which I am selling to get and integra/ prelude? Why, probably similar to rice at hearts reason, gas and insurance. Personally, a z28 is goin to f up most integras and preludes, the have double the cylinders, and double the insurance, and half the gas milage. Different people like different things. I think the guy is wanting to know if anyone has an integra to sell?? Thats just my 4 1/2 cents.

if speed were everything, then all people would be driving domestics. but gas and insurance are very big factors in purchasing a car, as mentioned before. also there's that whole underdog factor. if you see an integra pull up to a camaro, pretty much everyone who's watching knows that the camaro's gonna win. but there's always that little part of you, rooting for the little guy to just embarass the crap out of the big v-8 bully.

Well just to add another 2 cents to the story, I personaly think that its a lot easier and cheeper to get a honda/acura to fast than a domestic. Put a 200hp engine on a 2400lbs car and its about the same as having a 400hp engine on 4000lbs car. But if you upgrade that engine 100 hp on both cars the "ricer" will benefit more than the domestic since the weight to power ratio is diff. But that is just my oppinion.
PS: and forgot to mention about the roads, they all not straight aways all the time. wher a "ricer" will give that domestic a good show. :bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: aither way to want to put it.

Originally posted by stefan525
Well just to add another 2 cents to the story, I personaly think that its a lot easier and cheeper to get a honda/acura to fast than a domestic. Put a 200hp engine on a 2400lbs car and its about the same as having a 400hp engine on 4000lbs car. But if you upgrade that engine 100 hp on both cars the "ricer" will benefit more than the domestic since the weight to power ratio is diff. But that is just my oppinion.
PS: and forgot to mention about the roads, they all not straight aways all the time. wher a "ricer" will give that domestic a good show. :bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: aither way to want to put it.


hahahaha...

You show me a Domestic Sports car that weighs 4000lbs and I'll think you're cool.

But the fact of the matter is, it IS easier to upgrade a V8. Its a proven fact that you can gain as much as 40-50hp over stock just by replacing the exhaust. Not to mention a '02 Camaro SS has nearly 340hp stock... not to far off from 400hp is it? Minor mods and you're making that magical 400hp... in a 3300lb car.

And yes, not all roads are straight... but dont forget Camaro's werent designed to go in straight lines either. They do very well in the twisties, same as Mustangs. You give a F-body or 'Stang to a compitent driver and they'll show you what the car was designed to do.

Power to weight ratios.. ahh yes funny you mention that... a 2400lb car with 200hp has a 12:1 power to weight ratio. A 3300lb Camaro SS has a 9.7:1 Power to weight ratio stock.

Now explain to me how the 'ricer' as you put it... will benefit more?

And, I'd hate to say I'm flaming people... Cause I'm not just pointing out facts. But to the guy who said he gets 32mpg I'd like to point out that Camaro's do get 28-29mpg on the Highway...

Originally posted by RedNeck383



Power to weight ratios.. ahh yes funny you mention that... a 2400lb car with 200hp has a 12:1 power to weight ratio. A 3300lb Camaro SS has a 9.7:1 Power to weight ratio stock.



Whoops... allow me to correct myself.

Power to weight ratio is Hp/Weight... so 2400lb car w/ 200hp is .083 and a 3300lb Camaro SS is .103

The way I did it was Weight/Hp... which seems easier to see a major difference.

My Mistake.:D

sheesh...always seems to come down to which one is easier. jus wait til delsol gets in here...then its all over (not makin fun) :D .

o an redneck...no mistakes from now on aite? otherwise we'll have to ban u to the domestic section...j/k (sweet nova...i wish my car could do wheel stands too...wait a minute...fwd...nvm...)

Yes Sir.... Sorry Sir... Won't happen again Sir.



:D

The point I was trying to make is that the import can benefit from a 100hp gain more than the domestic. And the only car I seen to keep up with a well set up import is the vette zo6. I autoxoss every other weekend and maybe you can tell me why I have not seen many domestics that can do well there. Hmmm, O i got it, they are called "corners" and domestics can't handle them. But any way, we all have our oppinons, but I can tell you that my car has 170hp at the fly wheel and it runs 1/4 mille in 14.9sec with i/h/e. And its valued at under 10K. All I can say is that I got my moneys worth. Any way it's late, im tired and I don't feel like arguing with you. So :flipa: off to your boring domestic forum. :devil:

hahaha.. domestics cant corner.. funny.

you run a 14.9, and with a car that costs less than 10k.... thats soooo crazyyyy I donnt believeeee... :rolleyes:

Trying to impress me? How about this? My car when all is said and done will be less than 7k, including the price of the car, and will run 11's. Ooo wow nobody is caring.

Not to mention if I spend yet another $700-$1000 on suspension modifications I can nearly hang with a Z06 on the skid pad.

Not too shabby for a 31 year old car.

AutoX is fun, and FWD cars do the best there, FWD cars turn easier in tight spaces. Having the driving wheels pulling you through a corner helps you out. Unfortunately having too much torque and RWD will hinder you in a AutoX situation.

But get both cars out onto an open track, not 1/4 mile either. But a real open road coarse and you'll see who dominates who.

Im not trying to impress you at all. Im just stating the facts about my car. Is not the fastest and is not the best, but it's 5yrs old and it has power window, power steering,power door locks and a/c. So my point is that we have this cars, you keep talking and your car is not even done, thats if you really have this Nova that you are talking so much about. I know that musle cars are a grate thing to have but these days the small compacts tends to dominate the streets. So untill you have the car that you keep talking about you will have to sit back, shut-up and watch up blow by u.

:flipa: :finger: :devil:

Originally posted by stefan525
Im not trying to impress you at all. Im just stating the facts about my car. Is not the fastest and is not the best, but it's 5yrs old and it has power window, power steering,power door locks and a/c. So my point is that we have this cars, you keep talking and your car is not even done, thats if you really have this Nova that you are talking so much about. I know that musle cars are a grate thing to have but these days the small compacts tends to dominate the streets. So untill you have the car that you keep talking about you will have to sit back, shut-up and watch up blow by u.

:flipa: :finger: :devil:

HAHAHA... now I suddenly don't have a Nova. Funny shit.

Just because the Motor currently sits on a engine stand awaiting parts, and a new transmission is needed... doesnt mean the car doesnt exist. If you want I'll email you pictures.

Lets not forget I just sold my old 70 Nova, which I drove for a Year. Still have pictures of that too.

Hahaha... fake Nova haha funny stuff.

How do we know you've got that B18C conversion in your Hatch?

I feel that I am less intelligent from having read this thread, most of you had no argument nor did you make any scence. May god have mercy on your souls...........
j/p

Oh yea, and try ebay. Dealers severly overcharge there customers. I work at an Acura dealership.

Nice hatch.


http://www.geocities.com/rednecksnova/mycar.html

I read some of this thread, and I just wanted to say this is THE WORST POST EVER!! I mean, obviously the guy who started this shit wasnt being serious, c'mon "I NEED RICE" what kind of shit is that, and now some domestic people have turned this into a huge spat.

Domestics - respected by me, of course there are a lot of shitty ones out there with torn seats and terrible paint, but on the same token, there are a lot of all show no go terribly modded imports out there.
Imports - the underdog ... takes a LOT of money and generally a huge engine swap to start showing up domestics (I.E, H22 (prelude) or CrVtec (CRV engine with GSR or ITR head) even then, you wont be showing anyone anything with an N/A setup, you will need maybe a turbo, supercharger, or N20 to get truly fast 1/4 mile times.

Bottom line - Wheather its a domestic or an import, generally the owner will have a lot of pride in it, and has invested a lot of money and hard work into his / her ride.

good post melt.:jumpie:

yes, well said Melt :dogpile:

Thanks for the props guys :cool:

wut a waste of a post...:D j/k, well said

Originally posted by shawn1
Hey man i usually dont post but, I just wanted to say i have a basically stock integra and i can beat older z-28's and some v8 mustangs 94-95.
All i have is i/h/e and some pulleys, and the good thing about it is i get 32 miles a gallon.

i know this post was forever ago, but damn, is he crazy??? integra beat a z28???:silly2:

Originally posted by pontiactrac
i know this post was forever ago, but damn, is he crazy??? integra beat a z28???:silly2:

I doubt the guy even owned an integra because a Civic DX with a 1.5 is capable of getting 32 mpg, but an integra with a 1.8 probably gets around 27 or so.

Originally posted by stefan525
http://www.geocities.com/stefanbarbu1/stefan525.html?1042571001227
nice B18 Hatchie, very clean.

thanks

but an integra with a 1.8 probably gets around 27 or so.

I get about 34 highway avg. and 30 city avg. in my 1.8

you must be driving like grandma:D to get that mpg all the time

my 93 1.8 gets 26mpg city, and about 30 highway

im a gas whore...i only get prolly 20 city/28 highway. i dunno, i jus use up gas. :D

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
im a gas whore...i only get prolly 20 city/28 highway. i dunno, i jus use up gas. :D

My friends 94 GSR is getting really shitty gas mileage, but thats cause 2 of his injectors are cracked, he got some venom ones though, but still needs a fuel controller to stop the car from burning rich.

I can see why people dig V8 torque... I had a '91 GT 5.0 way back when and it was a blast... though it rode like a truck and had switch gear that would seem cheap for a Kenner toy let alone a car.

I now have an ITR and though I do not like the lack of torque, I really like how it handles, brakes, and how connected I feel to the car... it is a lot like a 4 wheel motorcycle. You are just not going to get that feel from a 3300 lb (give or take) Corvette.

That said, if your goal is all out speed and performance the Vette's kick it. The Z28 build quality is rather poor, but there is no doubt that it is a lot of power, handling, and braking for the money.

The ITR suits my style just fine... even though I know I am not going to be beating any Z's or Vette's in stop light races.

Hey man,
I am the guy that posted that has the gs-r that beat the z -28, And for your information you can go to carstats and my car has a faster quarter mile than the z28 . STOCK! and I have intake, headers, catback exhaust, and pulleys. And I am talking about a older z28 like the same year as mine.

what year is ur integra? an u have a header, not headers btw.:D

THe only Z28 I can think of that you beat is a 87 Camaro maybe 88. Those were shi---y! speedometer went up to 85 on them...

Originally posted by shawn1
Hey man,
I am the guy that posted that has the gs-r that beat the z -28, And for your information you can go to carstats and my car has a faster quarter mile than the z28 . STOCK! and I have intake, headers, catback exhaust, and pulleys. And I am talking about a older z28 like the same year as mine.

Shawn, u need some rice, well i suggest u read this...

YOU MIGHT BE A RICE BOY IF ...

... you find yourself using the excuse 'yo, but you gots twice as many cylindas, dude after EVERY race
... you drive a 4 door 'type R'
... your gumby pants make it hard to shift
... more than 20 of your mods involve shielding what is actually underneath
... you have stickers that even most asians don't get
... you have stickers for parts you dont have
... you refer to 50hp as the 'big shot'
... your car has so much camber it can drive on its side
... when you drive by, WWII veterans run for shelter
... your exhaust tip diameter is 4 times the inner muffler diameter
... you have 'power by' anything anywhere on a car made by the engine manufacturer
... birds make nests on your spoiler because its taller than the trees
... you sell crack for the image...not the money
... you have 'N/T' polished on the side of car and you don't know what bracket racing is...
... you will only race if the other guy removes four sparkplugs
... you can't race uphills
... you have "All Motor" emblazoned on your rear hatch right next to your 14.50 dial in
... you brag to have nitrous and have a 14.50 dial in
... your exhaust system for your 1.8L is bigger than most Pro-stock cars
... you spent more money on stickers and stripes than your parents paid for your car
... you go to a performance shop and immediately start rummaging through the decal bin
... your tach is bigger than your head
... you have a shiftlight and your car is an automatic
... you refuse to race because it's a "show car"
... your only mods are cut factory springs and a 5" chrome exhaust tip
... at Autocross events you don't participate because you have a drag race setup and at drag events you brag about kicking ass on the autocross.
... you have more lights on the front of your car than the USS Voyager
... you brag about a turbo kit that never seems to get installed.
... your exhaust sounds like a dying Moose
... your bright green $300 air filter is bigger than your engine.

Now do u really want rice??? :D

:hehehe: i've read that somewhere before this forum...its funni because its tru boutz some ppl..

Yea... but sorry shawn, i don't think u could really beat a 300hp+ monster with the teg. i don't care, old new or space age, he either wasn't racing or it's not the truth. And u can emphesis that the camaro was stock all you want. Hardly any people modify camaros anyway, it's not the type of car that u modify unless you are a dragster or something, than i could picture the headers and whole nine yards.

Originally posted by PilotMojo
THe only Z28 I can think of that you beat is a 87 Camaro maybe 88. Those were shi---y! speedometer went up to 85 on them...

the spedo only went up to 85 because of some gas crisis...every american car came with an 85 spedo in the mid 80s, even the speedy escorts!@ with a few exceptions...thats why the corvettes started coming with digital spedometers...chevy didnt want their flagship carrying an 85 on the dash.

and why would you even compare a v8 to a i4? of course the 8 is going to make more power. thats a huge engine...you wouldnt compare a v8 to a v12 would you?

damn, you people are still responding to this lame ass thread ... time to hit the unsubscribe so I dont get another damn email notification.

Hey pontiactrac, I don't know what the heck you're talking about? I need rice? Okay. Are you just jealous or something? I am not the one that posted at the beginning of this thread, and rice boys piss me off too. Just because I said i beat a camaro does not mean I need rice. The camaro was a 94 or 95 and it is possible, because I have a gsr and I keep it properly tuned. I have new plugs, new plug wires, new distributor(mainly because my other one screwed up), new cap, rotor,fuel filter. Eventhough all my aftermarket parts are bolton, they add up the horsepower in the long run.Basically what I am saying is it's not impossible like you make it sound. I can't believe noone else is taking my side in this forum, I figured many people have beaten old z 28 and mustangs. In the last reply, are you telling me you don't believe me about what car I drive, because i can scan a pic if you want me to.

its not impossible at all. a 94 camaro is only rated at 160hp an 200lbs of torque, while tipping the scales at a lil over 3200 lbs. so if the guy was stock w/ his v6, then its not gonna be that tough of a race for u to win. so if u gotta gsr, then yeup, ur gonna beat the camaro 9/10 times, unless u can't drive.

I thought he was talking about beating older camaros that had more power. Beating a 160hp camaro isn't even worth bringing up.

no way dude, I've tryed racin' those damn Vettes, they're way too big and those other cars with the chromy horse logo on the grill too, I gave up cuz I don't wanna grow some complex or sumptin:alien2: