Bigger Tires

Someone I know has 255 75R 15s on rims for my 2000 Cherokee sport. They are a little wider than the stock 235--will this cause any problems--also the rims are aftermarket and look much better than the stock-Pros and Cons are accepted--Chris--Thanks

Best way to tell if they'll fit is see if your friend will let you borrow one and mount it in the rear and check all clearances, then mount it in the front and check all clearances when the steering wheel is turned from one side to the other to make sure there's no rubbing. They may be wider but it's only 2cm difference in the tire, for aftermarket wheels the backspacing might have been adjusted enough to provide plenty of clearance.

Sure they'll fit. The tires I mean. The different wheels will determine the clearances.

hmm... I think that's exactly what you said Dave. :smokin:

You should be fine as the stock factory wheels and rims are 15x8 and 235/75/15 which has the tire under nominal pressure at ~8 inches wide. I put 31 10.50x15's on my jeep before i lifted it and the would only rub a little at full turn.

^ Really Dave? Hmm... I've got a set of 31x10.5 BFG MT's that my girl wants on her rig. I thought she'd need around 2 1/2"- 3" of lift first.

Did you put them on the stock rims?

:runaround: Oh, sry for the hijack. http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/heart_of_silver/Tricks%20and%20Bones/th_30de76b1.gif

The wheels that are on my jeep aren't the stock ones but look similar. And yes they did fit but I didn't drive it around like that just long enough to drive it home and put the lift on. I was able to clear them with 2" spacers/blocks, if you're looking for a cheap lift take a look at the "ba$tard kit's" like on www.lunghd.com website where you repack the rear leafs and use GC front coils to lift it 4 inches. That's what i've got running now except the coils I've still got the 2" spacers up front so back sits a couple inches higher than front. One word of warning if you do decide to lift it like he says the shocks he recommends using will fit but you will have to swap the bushings and barpin's which is not an easy task.

Just wanted to add the tires are Yokahama and the rims are just some flashy version of the stock wheel. Question --If you were going to put an "all around" tire for the Cherokee without going overboard what would you recommend ?? I need tires soon maybe some months and would like to upgrade but cash as usual is a problem.

For the record, the stock tire as delivered is a 215 or a 225/75-15.

The 235/15-15 is 29" in diameter.
The 30 is 29.6" or so in dia.

The taller the tire, the more off-road clearance. However you will loose torque and most of the time loose gas mileage. True off-roaders regear the front and rear to take advantage of the taller tires (32, 33, and 37s).

If cost is a major consideration, stick with the 235/75-15 or the 30. A set of Goodyear or BFG will cost you $450 to $500 after the taxes and service. That is if you reuse the stock 7 inch x 15 stock rim. There are cheaper tires, but you get what you pay for.

If looks and style are also important, add that in is as determined by your expendable income or budget. For off-roading, black "steelies" should be considered.

Tip: most of the "Forest Service" or "Park Service" garages use the 235/15-15 on the service Jeep Cherokee. This size is available in all-terrain or mud-terrain tread styles.

Here is one with 235-15, stock rims and a two inch lift.
http://jeep.larrynova.com/97/Tires%28Small%29.JPG
http://jeep.larrynova.com/Jeep/97/Tires%28Small%29.JPG

That's what I'm talking about right there guys. Brass tax if you will. Thanks.

So, yeah.... 31's in mind for her XJ. Already have a set of '95'ish rear leaf packs from an S-10.

Some springs for the front are in order, but exactly which ones are yet to be decided. I need to get her right in the 2"-3" range to avoid having to use an SYE just yet, along with all the steering issues involved with going higher than that.

Grand Chero coils huh? Do they go right in? What model Grand, year(s)? 4"'s Really? I thought it was more like 2"???

I've heard the F-150 solution, -NOPE. I've also heard about using T-Bird coils along with the top of the strut as an adapter-plate, but have yet to nail the years down yet.

Dave! Aloha! C'Mon guys! *BUMP* ~ ed

FRED!?!?!????

For the record, the stock tire as delivered is a 215 or a 225/75-15.

The 235/15-15 is 29" in diameter.
The 30 is 29.6" or so in dia.

The taller the tire, the more off-road clearance. However you will loose torque and most of the time loose gas mileage. True off-roaders regear the front and rear to take advantage of the taller tires (32, 33, and 37s).

If cost is a major consideration, stick with the 235/75-15 or the 30. A set of Goodyear or BFG will cost you $450 to $500 after the taxes and service. That is if you reuse the stock 7 inch x 15 stock rim. There are cheaper tires, but you get what you pay for.

If looks and style are also important, add that in is as determined by your expendable income or budget. For off-roading, black "steelies" should be considered.

Tip: most of the "Forest Service" or "Park Service" garages use the 235/15-15 on the service Jeep Cherokee. This size is available in all-terrain or mud-terrain tread styles.

Here is one with 235-15, stock rims and a two inch lift.
http://jeep.larrynova.com/97/Tires%28Small%29.JPG
http://jeep.larrynova.com/Jeep/97/Tires%28Small%29.JPGThanks for all that good info-I had thought that the tires on there were an upgrade but wasn't sure. I'll probably just buy a good 235 and try to clean the rims up. They look painted white but are flaking. Thanks again. My Cherokee almost looks like the Forest Ranger version now .LOL

Here is picture with two Jeeps. The one in back is stock with 225-15 tires and the one in front has 235-15 with a two inch lift in front and about 2 1/2 inches in back. I would use a 30-15 for my purposes because I don't want to regear or buy new wheels. IMO, the 31 tire needs an 8 inch rim for the tread to be completely flat.

I have used the two door many times off-road including the Jeep Jamboree at Big Bear 2007. I have a transfer case skid plate and a front diff skid plate for protection. Stock driveshaft and transfer case dropped.

http://jeep.larrynova.com/97/TwoJeeps%28Small%29.JPG

That's what I'm talking about right there guys. Brass tax if you will. Thanks.

So, yeah.... 31's in mind for her XJ. Already have a set of '95'ish rear leaf packs from an S-10.

Some springs for the front are in order, but exactly which ones are yet to be decided. I need to get her right in the 2"-3" range to avoid having to use an SYE just yet, along with all the steering issues involved with going higher than that.

Grand Chero coils huh? Do they go right in? What model Grand, year(s)? 4"'s Really? I thought it was more like 2"???

I've heard the F-150 solution, -NOPE. I've also heard about using T-Bird coils along with the top of the strut as an adapter-plate, but have yet to nail the years down yet.
Hey Citizen...

I used a Rocky Road two inch lift kit. Then I took out the rear sway bar (not needed usually). I also removed all the leaf spring clips except one on each side (for more leaf flex). I also replaced the rubber bushings on the front sway bar with urethane one for more control up there. The bump stops in the rear were spaced down about an inch also.

As far as driveshaft vibes, yes, I had them. So, I did a home brew 1'" TC drop that cured it.

Since the lift, I have done about a half a dozen trips in various off-road parks and national forest trails. I works pretty well, once you disconnect your front sway bars and air down to 15 psi. The last one required an 8 hour drive each way on the interstate. Plus, I had to do an AC compressor replacement on the road in the hotel parking lot. A lot of work on that trip, but it was fun to do at least once.

I have no rubbing due to the smaller tire. If I need new ones, I might consider a 30 or 31. Right now, I cannot afford to go "wheeling" due to the price of gas and the distance that needs to driven to go off-roading.

BTW...thanx for keeping up the Jeep chats....

If I wanted to add a lift kit --2" sounds right -does someone know of a good off the shelf one. Mine is a 4 door but is in great condition and Id like to do something to it. The 2 door you have in the pic looks great.

Crystalion-

You might get yourself a little mixed up calling it an "add a lift kit"...

What you're after is a '2" Budget Lift/Boost'.

While there are budget kits that contain an add-a-leaf, you'll generally want to stay away from these as they tend to fail rather quickly and let the rear sag prematurely.

That being said, as Aloha mentioned in his last post, many folks find the Rocky Road Outfitters kit to work quite well for them.

This is the XJ/Cherokee Page-
http://www.rocky-road.com/xjsus.html

And this is direct to the 2"-3" Budget Lift they offer-
http://www.rocky-road.com/xjbudget.html

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Yep...I used the budget 2" complete kit for $139.00 (with shock extenders/bar pin eliminators.

But like Citizen says....that just to start. I mean... that to go further, more money will be spent on all kinds of things, like the front tow hitch you see there for recovery, time and energy doing the transfer case drop, tow hooks in back, etc.

If I had the cash, I would add rock rails, gas tank skid, and a rear diff skid next. Then a locker for the rear diff. Then I would try and runs some more difficult trails and see how it fares.

Don't forget to budget for parts just to keep the Jeep running and maintained.

JEEP- Just Empty Every... Aw hell, we know what a thing is don't we? It's just another great part of the American Mystique that is Jeep as Americans.

I didn't realize that this kit came with BPE's. After doing some initial single parts pricing, this kit can, (2") with a little extra planning, take care of both my girls rig and mine at once.

She'll get the front spacers, rear shackles, and BPE's.

I'll get a couple of leafs from the S-10 pack we already got at the pick and pull, (my rear is sagging and leaning now- no jokes.) and she'll get what it takes to get her right at 2'' in the rear.

We'll chuck the 0.5'' blocks in exchange for some shims I think to help her rear driveline angle, being as that hers is a '92 and not so prone to the vibes from what I've gathered thus far.

See any flaws so far?

Only one thing to do...try it. If you do use the blocks, buy longer U-bolts.

Well yeah Bra! You sorry son of a very nice lady I'm sure. What about the flaws in my perfectly thought out plan though... Muahahhhaaahahahahaha!
*rolls hands around together menacingly*