Just got paid!

OK i will finally have some money to put something on my car, and i can't decide whether i should get my car lowerd, tinted, or have a muffler and tip put on. What do you guys think ?:confused:

I did tint first because it was the cheapest. Then suspension.

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA
OK i will finally have some money to put something on my car, and i can't decide whether i should get my car lowerd, tinted, or have a muffler and tip put on. What do you guys think ?:confused:

Max look tight when it's tinted, hook that up first and then post your pics with the new tint on so we can see what it look like, use before and after pics.

tinting was the best thing i ever did to my car. now i can get a girl in the back in any parking lot and no one can see in. go with 15% it looks nice.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/tommyredbones

So everyone thinks i should go with the tint first....

While it won't make a difference whether i will ba able to get girls in the back, (b/c i am a girl ;)).. although i am up for trying new things..hehe... the tint will look really good. If i got the tint the ting that i would get would be a 5% fade into the reflective, i have the deep evergreen color max. So i don't know...my delemma is just that i reall y want the exhaust.... hmmm..... does anyone regret getting they're exhaust first ?? I relaly dont' think i will...i don't know.. your imput had helped but i would like more from some others.

b2kmax: I will do the before and after pics... good idea i would like you guys to see my progress :)

Try new things, hoo hoooooo!!!! Wish you were in Los Angeles!;) :D :licker:

i would say go with the tints.

reason being that tints are cheeper then an exhaust, this way you can save the money up for the exhaust pretty quickly. plus its best to get a full exhaust at the same time. this way you really feel the hp difference, you get all the parts that work with each other, plus you wind up saving money on the labor, unless you're goning to do it yourself

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA
So everyone thinks i should go with the tint first....

While it won't make a difference whether i will ba able to get girls in the back, (b/c i am a girl ;)).. although i am up for trying new things..hehe... the tint will look really good. If i got the tint the ting that i would get would be a 5% fade into the reflective, i have the deep evergreen color max. So i don't know...my delemma is just that i reall y want the exhaust.... hmmm..... does anyone regret getting they're exhaust first ?? I relaly dont' think i will...i don't know.. your imput had helped but i would like more from some others.

b2kmax: I will do the before and after pics... good idea i would like you guys to see my progress :)

I'm glad you like the idea and I can't wait to see the pics, oh and as far as that thing about not being able to pick up girlz cuz u r a girl, word of advice, most of us fellaz luv 2 watch that and if you are down 2 try new things, PM me and I'll see what I can break u off wit.
:licker:

Slow down speedy, she's mine:D

it go foir tint first, unless u got money to do both

Originally posted by MaximusGTR
Slow down speedy, she's mine:D

How bout we both just share her, since she wants to try new things.:hehehe: :hehehe:

you can share me;) but just one at a time ;)

but yeah i do plan on doing everything myself, except the tint... but i did hook my subs up on saturday ....

oh yeah... i got offered to me a model at a tunign shop it's opening pretty soon. They want swimsuit models on the opening day...

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA
oh yeah... i got offered to me a model at a tunign shop it's opening pretty soon. They want swimsuit models on the opening day...

Damn, swimmie, can't wait to see your pics. Holla back

Dayyuuum, fellaz, have yall seen the Queen, QueenMaxima is sooo fine I think I should've ask this as a thread> In other words, she's so tight she deserves to be threaded.

Anyway, go peep her pic, I think she looks beautiful, holla back to show your support for her> A down a$$ chick, GA Peach from da Dirtsouth.

Queen glad you PM'd me, just so you know a King would do anything for his Queen.:licker:

hey ya'll....

well that's awesome that have your support. I will post the pics... but that will be in a feew months (the opening that is), but the pic that is on my profile is sooo old, i need to get and updated pic on there....

queen his pretty hot. hey queen, i movin to GA soon, have to meet up somewhere

Originally posted by 97wvmax
queen his pretty hot. hey queen, i movin to GA soon, have to meet up somewhere

I don't think so 97, she's mine, I guess I'll have to flip you 97 times for her.:hehehe: :hehehe: :hehehe:

haha, on second thought u can have her, but when u sittin in jail shes all mine :D id be freaked if i went for a minor thats half my age :flipa:

Originally posted by 97wvmax
haha, on second thought u can have her, but when u sittin in jail shes all mine :D id be freaked if i went for a minor thats half my age :flipa:

Daaayyyummm, I didn't know she was a Minor, she looks pretty Major to me, me Jailhouse booty, I don't think so, I'm exit only, no Jail cells for this prime piece.
Peace

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA

(b/c i am a girl ;)).. although i am up for trying new things..hehe...


that is always a good thing

yes, very good thing

you guys are cool....

i know i am a minor, but i will be 18 in like 6 months, oh well.... ;)

97wvmax: where are you movin to?? how old are you

i put my new pic up...

hey Queen maxima how did you get involved in the auto forums, Not too many females are into the scene like that, it's good to see a female interested in her ride beyond just going from point A to B

im movin close to agusta, im 17 i be 18 in feb tho.

hey.. you guys will just have to email me if you want the new pics....

well i guess i just in herited (sp) the gene, b/c my grandparents were professional drag car racers, and ever since i was 10 years old i was helping my dad work on our cars, we have 5, and i personally have two. THe major thing that i did reciently was my and my dad and my brandpa swapped engines out of two nissan trucks... but i heard about automotiveforums.com from one of my friends at the drag strip... yeah i know it is rare to finda girl on here, b/c i think that i am the only one in the nissan forum. But, i am also the only girl outta all my friends into cars, it's about 15 guys..and me. I love it though, b/c i am also the youngest and they are all like my brothers and they spoil me. :), not that i am a pansy or anything i mean i kick boxed for two years and i race cars;) (and yes i am straight) haha...j/k, anywayscars are my life and i am about to buy another one....but i don't know what to get....

why don't you get a civic?
i hear they're real fast. :)

yes i civics are quick mainly b/c they are light weight, i love them but i really am trying to stay away from the 4 cyl's, i love the power of a V6, i think they are amazing. Plus b/c my brother has one. It's red and it's a 5 spd, i get to drive it all the time so it really wouldn't make sense to get one if he has one.

wat kinda car is the other one u have?

wat part of GA un in queen?

I live in Suwanee/Lawrencville....and i have a 5-spd Toyota Corolla...aka "Tha 'Rolla", ha...

so waht happend.. did everyone disappear ??

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA
I live in Suwanee/Lawrencville....and i have a 5-spd Toyota Corolla...aka "Tha 'Rolla", ha...

so waht happend.. did everyone disappear ??

Naw, nobody disappeared, it is just apparent to us that this convo is not about Max or Nissan related topics, therefore everyone is kinda loosing interest.

Maybe you and 97 should try using the PM to pass personal messages, this way yall could hook up without anybody knowing about it.;)

well... i justgot an intake... i got thewepon-r dragon intake... are the deicent intakes ?? b/c if they aren't i coul;d sell it b4 i put mine on...and then get a bette one...

i have a weapon-R. I upgraded to a carbon fiber pipe and a hyper filter. it sounds real nice and they guaruntee 8.2 hp increase on a prelude and i sent them an email they told me a 6 cylinder should get considerably more (10-12 Hp). i wouldn't get rid of it if i were you. they make a nice ram air system for the dragon filter for $75.

ive got the place racing CAI, it give noticeable gains and a nice sound, but my gas mileage got worst after the first tank of gas with the CAI. it got colder here in WV here too, so i was thinking havin a CAI with cold weather is jus makin the air too cold or something. any1 else havin this prob?

Originally posted by 97wvmax
ive got the place racing CAI, it give noticeable gains and a nice sound, but my gas mileage got worst after the first tank of gas with the CAI. it got colder here in WV here too, so i was thinking havin a CAI with cold weather is jus makin the air too cold or something. any1 else havin this prob?

Hey 97, I think the reason (if this is first year you've had your CAI when it's been real cold) it is showing negative on gas mileage is due to 1 or 2 things.

First people with CAI/WAI tend to drive their cars a lil harder/faster>we love to hear that growling sound, therefore you would have a loss of economy in the Max (thristy V6 when you put the hammer down).

Other reason is I believe that the ECU in the Max's are too damn smart for their on good. They are learning ECU's, by this I mean that if you do something to your car such as add an intake it will take a lil time (driving your car for a while) for the ECU to get used to the modifications you made before it adapts to the conditions.

So it will take your car a lil while to learn how to mix the air/fuel ratio info into the CPU coming through your O2 sensors to pick up how to adjust it to your driving and the environmental conditions.

I might be wrong on this but I was told this over at Nissan after my car starting acting funny when I put my tornado in. They must have been right because my car drives better since then and it pulls harder at higher rpms.

Somebody with more experience on this please help me out on this as well, again I might be wrong based on what I was told but my car isn't acting funny anymore and it pulls harder.

"First people with CAI/WAI tend to drive their cars a lil harder/faster>we love to hear that growling sound"

I agree, because as much as I hate to admit it, not one trip in the max consisted without me not punchin the throttle to hear that Music. I find myself doing it at least once when someone new is in my car so they can say " Hey you changed the engine or somethin". It's all smiles after that :hehehe: :hehehe:

B2KMax - You put in a Tornado? What in the world possessed you to do that? Its pretty well known that these things are a farce.

is the tornado good with a CAI? ive heard some ppl sayin that it restricts the air flow with thoes in, this tru? how much does a tornado cost?


i ususally try to lay off from pushin the car hard when im jus drivin around, but i do race my friend when im leavin school at least 1 time a week or so, jus so show them their cars still suck :D thnx for tellin me bout the ECU thing, ur prob right about that. if it doesnt stop aftera while i will have it looked at tho.

i have a tornado too. i think they work well. everyone i know that has one likes them and everyone that hasn't tried one says they don't work.


This shows the dyno results for a couple different cars

http://www.tornadofuelsaver.com/info/power.php

Originally posted by 97wvmax
is the tornado good with a CAI? ive heard some ppl sayin that it restricts the air flow with thoes in, this tru? how much does a tornado cost?


i ususally try to lay off from pushin the car hard when im jus drivin around, but i do race my friend when im leavin school at least 1 time a week or so, jus so show them their cars still suck :D thnx for tellin me bout the ECU thing, ur prob right about that. if it doesnt stop aftera while i will have it looked at tho.

To answer both you and MaxP's questions: Yes, MaxP, I did put in the Tornado thing in and it has worked real well for me. To 97, it does not restrict my airflow and in fact I've noticed a real edge in the way it performs.
I think people who have tried this didn't give the ECU time to learn the curve and fuel/air ratio mixture with the Tornado, therefore they didn't see any gain and only experienced the ECU going through its' infant stages where it hadn't learned the character of the Tornado.

Paonessa has a Tornado and he says he noticed how it works for him, so to each his own. I like it and I think it works fine in my car, plus it gives my ride the same sound that some of those out there with CAI/WAI get in their ride.

I don't know if you can mix the Tornado with the CAI/WAI, I don't think it will be a good mixture considering that the job of the popcharger on the head of the WAI/CAI is supposed to be the same as the Tornado, which is to give the air its' Ram effect, I think it would be redundant. Just my 02, I can be wrong though, I never claimed to be some autogenious.

I also think it would be redundant to put the Tornado with a CAI/WAI because if you have a midpipe<isn't the job of that pipe to straighten out the curve of air flowing to the TB and make it smoother, whereas the Tornados job is to twist the air to give it the swirling effect they claim is supposed to provide more velocity which gives the engine that extra shot of oxygen, which is the whole point anyway.

Again, I can be wrong, maybe one of the tuner guru's or experts who have dynoed every car with a Tornado and without it can be of more help to us all.

Paonessa will back me up on the gains of his Tornado, I know that I've seen the improvement and well as feel it. It penalizes the gas though, because I'm just like Maximus and 97>I gotta heavy @$$ leadfoot.

Originally posted by 97wvmax
is the tornado good with a CAI? ive heard some ppl sayin that it restricts the air flow with thoes in, this tru? how much does a tornado cost?


i ususally try to lay off from pushin the car hard when im jus drivin around, but i do race my friend when im leavin school at least 1 time a week or so, jus so show them their cars still suck :D thnx for tellin me bout the ECU thing, ur prob right about that. if it doesnt stop aftera while i will have it looked at tho.

To answer both you and MaxP's questions: Yes, MaxP, I did put in the Tornado thing in and it has worked real well for me. To 97, it does not restrict my airflow and in fact I've noticed a real edge in the way it performs. It costs around $70.

I think people who have tried this didn't give the ECU time to learn the curve and fuel/air ratio mixture with the Tornado, therefore they didn't see any gain and only experienced the ECU going through its' infant stages where it hadn't learned the character of the Tornado.

Paonessa has a Tornado and he says he noticed how it works for him, so to each his own. I like it and I think it works fine in my car, plus it gives my ride the same sound that some of those out there with CAI/WAI get in their ride.

I don't know if you can mix the Tornado with the CAI/WAI, I don't think it will be a good mixture considering that the job of the popcharger on the head of the WAI/CAI is supposed to be the same as the Tornado, which is to give the air its' Ram effect, I think it would be redundant. Just my 02, I can be wrong though, I never claimed to be some autogenious.

I also think it would be redundant to put the Tornado with a CAI/WAI because if you have a midpipe<isn't the job of that pipe to straighten out the curve of air flowing to the TB and make it smoother, whereas the Tornados job is to twist the air to give it the swirling effect they claim is supposed to provide more velocity which gives the engine that extra shot of oxygen, which is the whole point anyway.

Again, I can be wrong, maybe one of the tuner guru's or experts who have dynoed every car with a Tornado and without it can be of more help to us all.

Paonessa will back me up on the gains of his Tornado, I know that I've seen the improvement and well as feel it. It penalizes the gas though, because I'm just like Maximus and 97>I gotta heavy @$$ leadfoot.

i was watchin import tuners a while back and saw that they were sayin that if u put the tornado in the CAI it helped it out some. and u were right bout the ECU thing, i jus filled up when i got off work tonight and im back up to like 21 mpg :D

I heard that some people are taking out they're ECU's. Isn't this bad ?

Originally posted by QueenMaXimA
I heard that some people are taking out they're ECU's. Isn't this bad ?

I think it's terrible, the whole point of having the ECU with today's cars is to control certain functions of the engine, ie. fuel to air mixture, rev points. If you remove it you should replace it with a comparable ECU or piggyback another ECU to the stock ECU.

I think those who are doing this are doing it to remove certain functions they don't like in the car such as the pesk rev limiter and shift points and the economy factor of the fuel flow.

I wouldn't dream of removing my ECU, if you got a warranty definitely do not remove your ECU, it'll void your warranty, if you break or blow something that needs repair and they can attribute that to a missing ECU.

Today's engines depend highly upon the management of the multi-task capabilities of the ECU's place into the car, if you don't have it how are you gonna know when to stop revving your engine before the danger point. No thanks, I'll just keep my ECU and if I decide to add boost to the engine I'll probably send it to Greddy or somebody who knows about making piggyback ECU's or adjusting the idle points on the stock ECU.
Stupid thing to do, just my 02.

The thing that bugs me most about the tornado is the "demonstration" they show you on TV. They show you the old tornado in a bottle (two 2-Liter soda bottles connected at the neck) and show you how the water glugs, but then with a little spin, it flows smoothly down.

This is crap.

There's a big difference between 2 soda bottles and your car's intake. In the soda bottles, you have two substances, air and water, one is trying to go down while one is trying to go up, swirling the water makes a space for the air to continually travel and everything is smooth. In your car, you have one substance trying to go in one direction, swirling the air in the intake like that won't do anything but increase laminar flow resistance and turbulence. The one thing I can see that it may do is swirl the air so that fuel can mix better, but in the Maxima intake, even with a POP charger, you have about 2 feet of travel for the air before it reaches the injectors. By this time most turbulence should be damped.

Bottom line is that any performance gains are really in your head and I wouldn't trust any Dyno sheets from the manufaturer. I can make graphs like that in Excel too.

Originally posted by MaxPayne
The thing that bugs me most about the tornado is the "demonstration" they show you on TV. They show you the old tornado in a bottle (two 2-Liter soda bottles connected at the neck) and show you how the water glugs, but then with a little spin, it flows smoothly down.

This is crap.

There's a big difference between 2 soda bottles and your car's intake. In the soda bottles, you have two substances, air and water, one is trying to go down while one is trying to go up, swirling the water makes a space for the air to continually travel and everything is smooth. In your car, you have one substance trying to go in one direction, swirling the air in the intake like that won't do anything but increase laminar flow resistance and turbulence. The one thing I can see that it may do is swirl the air so that fuel can mix better, but in the Maxima intake, even with a POP charger, you have about 2 feet of travel for the air before it reaches the injectors. By this time most turbulence should be damped.

First off the popcharger sits at the end or rather the beginning of the intake whereas, the Tornado sits inside the TB housing almost right before the air is forced into the engine. It takes the air from the popcharger longer to get into the TB, whereas the tornado is twisting air inside the TB, so therefore turbulence is not damped when it enters the engine.

Soda bottles, air and water, this has nothing to do with the actual results on whether or not something is working or not. My point to make is this, we all drive our cars almost daily and we notice just about any and every little thing about our cars from gas mileage to little noises or gains from the exhaust system or the intake you just added.

Anyone can make graphs or charts with the computer, hey I can do the same thing for dynos for an aftermarket intake with full exhaust system and show gains or no gain.

So when us (tornado owner's) say that we noticed an improvement we should know what we are talking about. You bought and installed your intake and you notice the way your car performs, why does it have to be any different for us.

My point is, to say things are all in our heads, that's like saying your intake and gains is all in your head. You know your car and I know my car, I noticed the difference in my stock performance and the difference with my tornado, just like you did with your intake.
Try this to actually see if you notice the difference in the way your car performs, empty your gas tank and add 87 gas, after you use all of that up, add 93 and tell me that you don't notice the difference.
We know our cars, we know what they act like when pushed hard (lose fuel economy) or driven slowly with O/D on (sips gas).
To say that it's all in our head is to say that we don't know our cars, this is the real bottom line.






Bottom line is that any performance gains are really in your head and I wouldn't trust any Dyno sheets from the manufaturer. I can make graphs like that in Excel too.

i agree with Maxpayne

I'll give you that B2K, but I'm studying Aerospace Engineering and work with a building full of engineers and none of them (mechanical or aerospace) give any credability to the Tornado. There just is no real scientific basis as to why it would increase fuel economy while keeping performance at the same level. If you add restrictions to the intake you can get higher fuel economy on the basis that the car is not able to burn as much fuel... to a point. However, when you are striving for fuel economy, you hurt yourself in terms of performance gains and vice versa. Its a classic tradeoff that's been going on for a long time. Putting anything in the way of the intake airflow will be detrimental to performance at the very least. Even when K&N said they get better airflow than without any filter at all, I was skeptical. They now no longer hold that claim and reserve it for their FIPK kits which do flow better than a stock intake without a filter.

Here's another thing to ponder. If the concept of the Tornado works so well, why don't econobox car manufacturers incorporate the same concept into their cars to get better fuel mileage? You can patent a design, but not such a simple concept such as that.

It is my opinion that these companies such as Tornado and Slick 50 feed off consumer ignorance. They expect you to believe them because they have "experts" that designed it.

Things like intakes, exhaust and such have been extensively tested on the private sector as well as the commercial sector so their reputation for performance gains is tried and true.

By the way, I'm not blasting you or anything, I just think the Tornado has a lot of proving to do first before I buy a thin piece of stamped sheet metal for $70.

Originally posted by MaxPayne
I'll give you that B2K, but I'm studying Aerospace Engineering and work with a building full of engineers and none of them (mechanical or aerospace) give any credability to the Tornado. There just is no real scientific basis as to why it would increase fuel economy while keeping performance at the same level. If you add restrictions to the intake you can get higher fuel economy on the basis that the car is not able to burn as much fuel... to a point. However, when you are striving for fuel economy, you hurt yourself in terms of performance gains and vice versa. Its a classic tradeoff that's been going on for a long time. Putting anything in the way of the intake airflow will be detrimental to performance at the very least. Even when K&N said they get better airflow than without any filter at all, I was skeptical. They now no longer hold that claim and reserve it for their FIPK kits which do flow better than a stock intake without a filter.

It is my opinion that these companies such as Tornado and Slick 50 feed off consumer ignorance. They expect you to believe them because they have "experts" that designed it.

Things like intakes, exhaust and such have been extensively tested on the private sector as well as the commercial sector so their reputation for performance gains is tried and true.

By the way, I'm not blasting you or anything, I just think the Tornado has a lot of proving to do first before I buy a thin piece of stamped sheet metal for $70.

Here's another thing to ponder. If the concept of the Tornado works so well, why don't econobox car manufacturers incorporate the same concept into their cars to get better fuel mileage? You can patent a design, but not such a simple concept such as that.

I'm not trying to debate any scientific proof, for every study you show me that says this, I can show you another study that says the opposite. As far as playing on consumer ignorance, well let's just say I'm not ignorant, I do my research and homework.

You still fail to recognize this fact, that we know our cars and if my car isn't performing up to standard or better, I going to know about it instantly. Please take this into consideration before you go judging whether or not every consumer shops on product ignorance.

I know what it does for my car and I know it doesn't restrict any airflow because it's not big enough to do that, you make it sound as if the intake is sucking air through the size of a strawhole or something. It is not like that.

As far as why econobox car makers didn't add this or some similar design to their economy boxes, all I can say is this, the one word you need to recognize in that kind of car is economy, this is the reason why they didn't add something or copy the design of something like the tornado>they are trying to save themselves some money, besides a stock airbox is the most economic intake you can get with your car, this is why manufacturer make them stock like this in the first place>just to be able to say that their cars are fuel efficient.

If that wasn't the case, then every car on the market will come with a full aftermarket or (manufacturer made intake) from the factory. They only try to spend as little as possible to make as much as possible.

Economics aside, don't loose focus, remember this point you know how your car drove stock when you got it and now that you have mods you can feel, see and probably even chart the differences in your car then and now.
I say all of this not to blast back at you but to show you not to forget the human factor, which is we all know about things we have ownership of and that we cherish and take care of and if you gave us something and said it was the same as the last one, we would notice the differences in the two no matter what you told us.

Gotcha. Regardless, I won't be getting a Tonado anytime soon until I see that the automotive community has accepted it as well. If SAE tested it and showed something favorable towards it, that would be a clincher, but otherwise, there isn't enough consistent consensus that it really does the job.

Swirl on! :bathroom:

it's funny. my friend has the same car as me to the tee but his is a year newer. we got intake cat-back exhaust and i have a tornado he doesn't. his max is 96 mines 95. i edge him out in every gear. i pull a little on him through 1st and 2nd but by the time i redline 3rd and he redlines 3rd i'm about 1/2 a car ahead. i never redlined 4th and/or 5th but i'll bet the increase is countinuous. right there is all the proof i needed. no dyno's or nothing. i saw it for myself. (By the way all dyno tests show an inrease in power over stock with tornado's). i posted a link showing the power increases. i want someone to show me dynos with decreases in power. good luck The only people who say they don't work are the people who won't dish out 70 bucks to try it and those of us who do try it will never take the tornado out again.
i'm not saying their claim for gas mileage is good. i got a helluva lead foot so i wouldn't know

I know my car well engough to tell if an application is ineffective. i had my car for 18 months before i got the tornado. the tornado is good.

Originally posted by Paonessa
it's funny. my friend has the same car as me to the tee but his is a year newer. we got intake cat-back exhaust and i have a tornado he doesn't. his max is 96 mines 95. i edge him out in every gear. i pull a little on him through 1st and 2nd but by the time i redline 3rd and he redlines 3rd i'm about 1/2 a car ahead. i never redlined 4th and/or 5th but i'll bet the increase is countinuous. right there is all the proof i needed. no dyno's or nothing. i saw it for myself. (By the way all dyno tests show an inrease in power over stock with tornado's). i posted a link showing the power increases. i want someone to show me dynos with decreases in power. good luck The only people who say they don't work are the people who won't dish out 70 bucks to try it and those of us who do try it will never take the tornado out again.
i'm not saying their claim for gas mileage is good. i got a helluva lead foot so i wouldn't know

I know my car well engough to tell if an application is ineffective. i had my car for 18 months before i got the tornado. the tornado is good.

Amen P, I agree with that bottom line, we know our cars, this is what everyone (especially those who don't have one) fails to realize. Today I raced a 2k auto max just like mine and we dragged several times and each time I pulled on him and maitain at least 1 1/2 cars on him.

I never told him I have the Tornado before we started and he got curious and asked if I have done any tweaks to the my timing or anything and then I told him about the Tornado.
Needless to say he is going to buy a Tornado, I actually tried to persuade him to buy an aftermarket intake instead, but he doesn't want to catch the modbug and he doesn't want to spend a lot of money.

For all the naysayers that have to rely on SAE or the entire automotive community to embrace an item before they purchase it, I say you keep on waiting and you'll miss out. I'm not just speaking about the Tornado, rather anything that hit the market, understand that we (P and I) are part of the automotive community and this is where the proving grounds start, with people just like us.

maximaqueen. I got same color on my max also. I have 5% tints on back three windows and 35% on front two. Tints at 5% look owesome. No 1 can see a thing during regular day.

not to mention max obviously doesn't know about the tornado. in one of the previous posts on this thread he talks about the tornado sitting inside the tb housing??? i assume tb is throttle body. my tornado sits right after the air filter inside my intake pipe. the throttle body is a good 8-10" away from the filter. the air goes 1) through the filter 2) through the tornado 3) through the pipe 4) through the mass Airflow Sensor 5) and finally the throttle body.

And as for why tornado's don't come on all cars from the factory if they work. it's the same reason all cars aren't turbo charged

Don't knock it until you try it!!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :biggrin2:

Hey guys, to all the 4th gens, I know this is a sorry post because i'm suppose to know the answer to this already but how the hell does the O/D button work, I use it when I race because when I'm driving, it makes the rpm rev a little higher and it seems to give me a little jump. Does this really help you out in a race and when should the O/D be incorporated? Give me some hints because I could probably be spanking people even better if I knew lil tricks and trades to driving an auto max. Also to the 95-96 owners, the orange light should not be showing right? I know I should be getting pimp slapped for asking all this, but I had my Max for all this time and never knew :confused: :cry:

Originally posted by MaximusGTR
Hey guys, to all the 4th gens, I know this is a sorry post because i'm suppose to know the answer to this already but how the hell does the O/D button work, I use it when I race because when I'm driving, it makes the rpm rev a little higher and it seems to give me a little jump. Does this really help you out in a race and when should the O/D be incorporated? Give me some hints because I could probably be spanking people even better if I knew lil tricks and trades to driving an auto max. Also to the 95-96 owners, the orange light should not be showing right? I know I should be getting pimp slapped for asking all this, but I had my Max for all this time and never knew :confused: :cry:

Leave the O/D button off when you are racing, when the light is on the O/D is off and when the light is off, it's on. One of the purposes of the O/D is to provide your car with gearing that'll keep you within a certain rev range as to save gas (fuel economy).
When the O/D is on your car stays in like 5 gear or something but you can override the button even with the car in O/D by just stomping on the gas pedal harder. I could be wrong on this, but I've noticed that my car pulls slower with the O/D on than with it off.

There are no real tricks to driving the automax unless you do the following:

Torque brake (in other words rev your engine to 1500 rpm) put the tranny selector in 2, when the light changes hit the gas, run your speedo up to 35 then switch your tranny to D and bang you outta there just keep the pedal to the metal but you gotta be fast and you gotta pay attention to the speedo.
Don't worry about the guy in the other lane, if he's faster off the line you'll run him down when the Max hits third gear it is an acceleration beast.

Avoid the stupid O/D button altogether, leave it where the light is on, this way it is off and you are ready to race at a moments notice. I only use the O/D when I'm trying to economize on long trips, occasionally I turn it off when I since a challenge coming on.

Just my 02.

you'll destroy your tranny that way.

hell, at least ur o/d buttons work, mine hasnt worked since i got the car