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just beat a 95ish V8 Mustang


TatII
12-03-2002, 01:46 AM
i was coming back from Queens to my dorm. i was minding my own business when i saw this yellow mustang convertable. first he got in front of me and then he started gunning it. it was pretty fast even though i wasn't really flooring it but that car was acelerating pretty fast considerin the fact that i was already goin 85mph. well anyways then he slowed down then stayed behind and did one of those fly bys. still i'm not game becuase there are maaaaaad cops on the LIE and i know that if it was a straight up straight away race i would lose. well anyways we finally got to a area on the highway where there are never any cops and thats when i started flooring it. i was already goin 80 so i ddin't feel the need to downshift to 4th. anyways i started acelerating and i saw him chasing me. on the straight he was gaining on me pretty fast, until the turns started coming. then before i know it he just couldn't keep up with me. i was acelerating into those turns until i hit around 115mph+ then afterwards i don't see him behind me anymore. after that i slowed down to 70. i saw him slowing gaining on me then he saw me again then he just slowed down alot alot till i can't see him anymore. and he just stayed behind me. hahahah anyways i honestly didn't expect to win. i'm pretty proud of myself. this is honestly one of those races that i've won that actually deserves to be posted. heheh

Neutrino
12-03-2002, 01:56 AM
Sweet kill.

-The Stig-
12-03-2002, 02:29 AM
good run!


I dont know why, but that reminds me of the time TV, a friend of ours and I did a 18 mile stretch of freeway in about 9 minutes. That I think gives me a average speed of 120mph.

it was 4am, we wanted to get home fast and boy howdy did we.

SOLID!! (haha Inside joke.)

Ahh the good ol days of running the Nova into the ground.. nothing better to do!


The speedo only goes to 120, but the car kept building after pegging the needle. I figure it has a top speed of about 130mph with 3.90 gears. Motor was screaming. It was great...

TV...We shall conquer the highways once again... as soon as I get the Nova back in one piece. WE RACE LONG BEACH... SIX SPEED SHIFTAA!

hybridsol
12-03-2002, 03:01 AM
nice race :cool:

GTi-VR6_A3
12-03-2002, 03:04 AM
great kill. not expected. when i read the title. great engines in those stangs too bad their handling sux unless your some sort of race master or somthing like that and then there is still a strugle.

-GTi-VR6_A3

TatII
12-03-2002, 03:05 AM
thanks guy. see redneck atleast your car can go past 120mph even though your speedo only goes up to 120. my car has a fuel cut off and its really slowing me down. but its not like i go 120 that often anyways, but when i was racing that S4 avant. that limiter really costed me the race. he was only slowing gaining until i hit the limit and thats when he flew by me. oh wellz.

GTi-VR6_A3
12-03-2002, 03:07 AM
is there anyway to get rid of the limiter? and on a side note you are a nissan guy so i was wondering if the 240sx is the same cars as the ford probes?

-GTi-VR6_A3

hybridsol
12-03-2002, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
is there anyway to get rid of the limiter? and on a side note you are a nissan guy so i was wondering if the 240sx is the same cars as the ford probes?

-GTi-VR6_A3
your thinking of a mazda mx6 nissan's 240sx is a KA24DE, and mustangs handle quite nicely. (depends on year)

GTi-VR6_A3
12-03-2002, 03:50 AM
i was actually talking looks wise though. thanks for the input. does anyone know what im tlaking about or am i going fuggin nuts?

-GTi-VR6_A3

hybridsol
12-03-2002, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
i was actually talking looks wise though. thanks for the input. does anyone know what im tlaking about or am i going fuggin nuts?

-GTi-VR6_A3
my apolagies I misunderstood. :)

GTi-VR6_A3
12-03-2002, 04:21 AM
definately all right with me. do you know what car im tlaking about though? i swear ive seen 240sx's and ford probes that look almost identical

-GTi-VR6_A3

hybridsol
12-03-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
definately all right with me. do you know what car im tlaking about though? i swear ive seen 240sx's and ford probes that look almost identical

-GTi-VR6_A3
sorry man, wish I could be more helpful:confused:

GTi-VR6_A3
12-03-2002, 04:26 AM
haha its kool ive been lookin around and startin to realise i must have confused a few cars. ill look around at skool tomorrow

-GTi-VR6_A3

TerminalVelocity
12-03-2002, 06:01 AM
good kill!

The 95 handles quite well actually, but its scarry taking any car that fast through turns

Especally taking a nova through small european-ish streets *like the roads of italy, the area called naples is where we were *in Ca*

60-90 on small roads with mass bumps and my at the time fat ass dont mix when you have air shocks

Ahhhhh the nova....I'll miss jezzy

And in time, We have nova 2! and My next warhorse...I need to find a better job....

DemonZX
12-03-2002, 12:29 PM
It is always nice when you take down a V8! Esspeacially when you out drive the person. A kill is oh so much better when it is out driving the person rather than just out running them.:badass:

kidrocket
12-03-2002, 01:03 PM
werd i love racing 5.0s



although every now and then you run into a modded one that severely owns you and you have to just sit back and laugh

DemonZX
12-03-2002, 01:08 PM
oh yeah don't get me wrong all kills are good ones. I'm just saying the rare race through the twisties is much more rewarding. Well to me at least.

-The Stig-
12-03-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by TatII
thanks guy. see redneck atleast your car can go past 120mph even though your speedo only goes up to 120. my car has a fuel cut off and its really slowing me down. but its not like i go 120 that often anyways, but when i was racing that S4 avant. that limiter really costed me the race. he was only slowing gaining until i hit the limit and thats when he flew by me. oh wellz.

hahaaa, yeah i've got minimal rev limitor on the car. With the new motor and new gearing the car should be able to windout to about 140-150mph. If I keep the stock rear end at 3.08s... good lord i dont want to know has fast 425hp will push that car.


Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
Especally taking a nova through small european-ish streets *like the roads of italy, the area called naples is where we were *in Ca*

60-90 on small roads with mass bumps and my at the time fat ass dont mix when you have air shocks

Ahhhhh the nova....I'll miss jezzy

And in time, We have nova 2! and My next warhorse...I need to find a better job....

Ahh yes... That night of rallying through Naples. Which is only 1 car width wide. How long did we chase that Grand Am full of girls? 2 hours?

We know now not to race or rally againts red Grand Ams driven by girls. Something always breaks on my car when I do.

First time, Throttle return spring came off... throttle went wide open. And stuck! Had to throw the tranny in neutral and kill the motor... which at the rpm the motor was turning cold of diesled the engine and snapped Mr. Cam shaft. Probably wasnt the best for it. haha.

Second time, Just rallying over the crappy roads in Napples after the car load of hot chicks.. blew mt Air Shocks... which had only been on for 3 days. hahaha stupid girls.. I learned my lesson.

Venomized281
12-03-2002, 02:50 PM
NO FLAME INTENDED, but to me thats not considered a race. A race on the street would be next to each other on a roll from lets say 40 mph then nailing it or racing from a red light. Thats just being even more stupid racing through turns at 115 mph than just racing from a light or from a roll.

DemonZX
12-03-2002, 02:57 PM
Yeah, that isn't to smart. It must have been a pretty wide turn to take it at 115. Wide enough that it is pretty much straight. Where the Mustang probably should have still been faster.

Cbass
12-03-2002, 03:56 PM
Hey Venomized281, racing isn't just in a straight line you know... Where a Mustang might have the advantage in a straight line, the 240SX is a very nimble sports car, and with good tires has a huge advantage in the corners.

Good to see people have fun in the twisties too, even if they are sweepers on the freeway ;)

Nice kill Tat!

TatII
12-03-2002, 04:06 PM
thanks for the comment guys. and for Venomized281 the beauty about 240's is that the steering and the whole car in general is very communicative to the driver. if driven often enough you can tell exactly what the car is doin. ESP WHILE CORNERING. i'm not an idiot driver who just drives the car. i've been testing out my car's limits slowly for the last 15K miles. so i know what my car can do and can't do. and i just evened out my tire pressure on all 4 wheels and it made a world of difference. where as before the car would feel sloppy because i had one new tire and the other 3's pressure droped becusae it got colder. so i know what i'm doin. and for a car that as good feed back and from a driver who knows what hes doin has allowed me to recovered from a few spin outs becuse the car was tellin me exactly what i needed to do. *don't ask why i spun out* anyways if the mustang and i had the equal start then maybe he would've beaten me but not by much. becuase i was leaving him in the turns. and i was stayin in one lane. if i took up 2 lanes to do those turns i would've definitly have him eat my exhuast fumes even more. and if that wasn't a race. he would've just drove by me when i slowed down. but he got sooo himulated by me that whenever he got close to me from behind. he would just slow down and just stay behind me even further. and for VR6. yes the late model Ford Probes look like S13's. the S13's are the hatch back 240's with the flip up lights. and coincidentally the late model Mazda MX6 looks like the S14's which is my car. even though its the other way around becasue the MX6 came out first.

Venomized281
12-03-2002, 05:39 PM
How often do people wanna race through turns on the street? I see mostly red light races and from a roll. If you wanna race through turns then go road race it on a road course. I know drag racing isn't good either on the street but its a LITTLE more safe racing a straight line then racing through turns while at 115 mph someone wants to race from a roll or whatever. Also why do you make it sound like I said you don't know what your doing? I never said that so don't assume so. You better be careful with what you say, "I know what my car can do and can't do". Well you better know that you can either injur or kill yourself or someone else driving on the road. All I'm trying to say is that "race" you had was stupid and it wasn't even a race. Be careful!

BlkCamaroSS
12-03-2002, 07:31 PM
I kinda have to agree with him, racing at 115 on public streets isn't safe, regardless of what road you're driving on, or what your skill. Must take into account the stupidity factor, mostly from people other than yourself. They're not prepared to be barreled down on by cars from behind.

Not to call the kettle black, I've had my share of races, just generally not in that range. Just keep it safe, as I'm sure you do, don't need anyone wrecking, or heaven forbid dying due to racing...

Off of my soapbox...good kill.

Cbass
12-03-2002, 07:47 PM
Living in a relatively sparsely populated area, the Comox valley, I have the advantage of back roads and well paved twisty roads everywhere. If you stay in your own lane, and aren't passing other cars in the corners, it's okay to go fast in the corners. A sports car is much safer at speed than any other kind of car, because you are more likely to avoid an accident. A sports car, such as Tat's 240SX can handle a sweeping corner like the ones he mentioned at 115mph using 90% of it's roadholding ability, whereas at the same speed, the Mustang would be using 100%, if it could even keep up, which it couldn't.

Tat was on the freeway, and he was going through big sweeping corners in his own lane. That's quite a bit safer than a drop clutch drag race with people lining the road on either side...

Where we race out here, we have several country roads that are about 1 km(0.6 miles), very straight, and well paved. There are fields on either side, so the worst thing that's going to happen is rolling into the ditch and wrecking your car.

However, there are so many good roads here, like Back road, which has a 180 degree wide hairpin(horseshoe), and lots of nice curves. The only downside is there are a few spots where visibility is poor over hill, so you have to cool it.

TatII
12-03-2002, 11:55 PM
thank you CBass. i was on a highway. it was a long decently sharp *for highway standards* sweeps. it was 2 a.m. on a weekday. i didn't just race him out of no where. i waited for him to get to a safe point to race. and as soon as i got out of that area i slowed back down to 70 immediately. i'm not a wreckless drive. or atleast i dont' think i am. heh but trust me taking those sweeps at 115 is not that fast. i can name a whole shit load of cars that can take those turns even faster *most of them aren't domestics* but anyways. if i was driving any other car. i wouldn't even considering goin faster then 80 because i would be soo scared to even turn in those cars.

GTi-VR6_A3
12-04-2002, 01:43 AM
thanks for the info tat. now the big queistion are they all the same body or diff bodies with just super look alikes? kuz i have real trouble telling em apart. i really am not too knowledgable in this area as i am in others... german, some british, other euro, american and some jap cars. these named are a bit out of it for me. as for your car i wish i lived somewhere even remotely close to NYC so i could check out your car or even race you after i get way better at driving. my friend suggested waiting til like 3 in the morn goin on the free way and swerving a bit to te get better at knowing my car when i get it. what do you think?

-GTi-VR6_A3

DemonZX
12-04-2002, 06:51 AM
I agree with Tat on the steering of the SX. My Z is the same way. After a while you get such a feel for the steering and the throttle it's kinda crazy! It's almost like I can feel everything all my tires are doing.

TatII
12-04-2002, 08:34 AM
they are not the same car. they are all just super look a likes. the top of the line for the mazda and the ford all run on v6's so they are alittle faster then the 240's. the main and the mean the really big different between those cars and the nissan is that the nissan is a rear wheel drive *one of hte only rear wheel drive japanese sportcars* when the mazda and the ford are all front wheel drives. thats basically it i guess.

student_anonymous
12-04-2002, 09:34 AM
Nicely Done!

:sun:

94svt5.0
12-04-2002, 04:44 PM
Good kill. There is no doubt the mustang would be faster, but the convertables are the slowest and worst handling of the bunch. I think this is an issue of who was the most guttsy driver, it seems the mustang driver ran out of skill or decided the race wasnt worth his or someones life. In my experience with mustangs, their handeling is on par with many other rear wheel drive sport type cars. Before you assume mustangs handle poorly, go drive one and see for yourself. Too much negative jargon related to v8, rear wheel drive, domestics, would be ended if people actualy tried to find out things for themselves

GTi-VR6_A3
12-04-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Good kill. There is no doubt the mustang would be faster, but the convertables are the slowest and worst handling of the bunch. I think this is an issue of who was the most guttsy driver, it seems the mustang driver ran out of skill or decided the race wasnt worth his or someones life. In my experience with mustangs, their handeling is on par with many other rear wheel drive sport type cars. Before you assume mustangs handle poorly, go drive one and see for yourself. Too much negative jargon related to v8, rear wheel drive, domestics, would be ended if people actualy tried to find out things for themselves


i worded the handlign ting wrong when i said that iwa s thinking about the convertable when i said that sorry. seems mustangs are growing on me more and more everday well the new ones at least. (ive always liked the old stangs) last american sports car sadly. well the vette but kinda un attainable. ive been in a mustang going 90 around a corner. burned rubber through it too lol but it kept its self. it was a 1966 fastback HighPerformance GT. 1 out of six evermade 2 on the road and the one i was in was all stock and the better of the 2 of them. my dads friend is one of the luckiest guys in the world. i ll find some pix of it sometime if you wanna see 94svt.

-GTi-VR6_A3

Cbass
12-05-2002, 05:44 AM
Well, the Mustang has good suspension, but really soft spring rates, and weak sway bars. When these are upgraded, the handling is drastically improved.

The other hinderance to the Mustang is a fairly hefty curb weight of between 3200-3500lbs, lighter is always better for handling.

Anyhow, a 240SX is a great car, and I would recommend one for anyone as a first car, as long as they don't live in Canada and have to drive in the winter ;)

In fact, the only cars I would recommend before the 240SX are the Porsche 924 and the Toyota Corolla GTS (AE86). Great cars to learn on ;)

94svt5.0
12-05-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3



i worded the handlign ting wrong when i said that iwa s thinking about the convertable when i said that sorry. seems mustangs are growing on me more and more everday well the new ones at least. (ive always liked the old stangs) last american sports car sadly. well the vette but kinda un attainable. ive been in a mustang going 90 around a corner. burned rubber through it too lol but it kept its self. it was a 1966 fastback HighPerformance GT. 1 out of six evermade 2 on the road and the one i was in was all stock and the better of the 2 of them. my dads friend is one of the luckiest guys in the world. i ll find some pix of it sometime if you wanna see 94svt.

-GTi-VR6_A3



Sounds like a sweet car, would love to see some pictures.

94svt5.0
12-05-2002, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3



i worded the handlign ting wrong when i said that iwa s thinking about the convertable when i said that sorry. seems mustangs are growing on me more and more everday well the new ones at least. (ive always liked the old stangs) last american sports car sadly. well the vette but kinda un attainable. ive been in a mustang going 90 around a corner. burned rubber through it too lol but it kept its self. it was a 1966 fastback HighPerformance GT. 1 out of six evermade 2 on the road and the one i was in was all stock and the better of the 2 of them. my dads friend is one of the luckiest guys in the world. i ll find some pix of it sometime if you wanna see 94svt.

-GTi-VR6_A3



Sounds like a sweet car, would love to see some pictures.

GTi-VR6_A3
12-06-2002, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0




Sounds like a sweet car, would love to see some pictures.

next time i see him i will take some pics. did i mention he offered me the keys to take it for a spin. i had to decline as when he offered i only had permit and barely any experience driveing. now i have more experience but i think ill wait til i have a liscence. BUT I GET TO DRIVE IT. ill tell everyone how i like the ride.

-GTi-VR6_A3

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