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s dinel
11-08-2007, 10:22 AM
Anyone Know where to get replacement Fog lights. The whole housing not just the bulbs. On my 2000 Intrigue one bulb had melted through the housing and inside is screwed. The other the lens was fogged over and the bulb was completly rotted to nothing.
Hoppy, you were going to check our local scrap yards a few months ago. What did you find?

Hoppy2
11-08-2007, 11:03 AM
I went down to millers and they have mixed up all of the cars and trucks in their yard. They don't have the gms fords and chryco's in their own rows any more so, my buddy who works there said it is a luck thing to find the vehicle you want to look at. Apparently they had a copule of intrigues in there but I could not find any. I actually gave up because you have to look through every car and truck there. I may go down again some time to see if I can find one again, but hopefully this time they are a bit more organized.

I have started shopping in the states again because of the dollar. I have to get more parts for my truck. When I go, I will ask there at pep boys and advanced auto if they sell them. I won't know till next week though.

harmankardon35
11-08-2007, 05:56 PM
I seen an intrigue today with aftermarket fog lights mounted where the stocks usually go. It looked pretty good. I guess its all about finding the same general shape of light housing and making it work.

Hoppy2
11-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Harmon,

What kind of fog lights were they? Or what brand do you think they were? I am dying to put them in my base model Intrigue. I have the fog lights in my explorer and absolutely love them, especially after bypassing the relay that shuts them off when you turn on the high beams. I swore I would always have them on all of my vehicles, especially after buying my explorer with them factory installed. The night illumination is way way way better with them.

harmankardon35
11-08-2007, 11:43 PM
I agree...I cant stand that "dark hole" from the front of my car to where the headlight beam starts. Foglights fill that in nicely. I wouldnt know the brand of lights they were...they werent the exact same shape as the originals, but they were long and thin...so they fit nicely. What would fit nice is the headlights I had in my camaro....model #h4351. Basically little mini sealed beam headlights. Problem would be mounting them. Ill look around some of the light sites for you (PIAA, APC etc...)

s dinel
11-13-2007, 08:50 AM
Thanks for the posts guys.

If you find anything out please let me know.

SD

harmankardon35
11-14-2007, 12:35 AM
ever think of making a plate to fill in the factory slot, and mounting smaller round lights in them? Sort of like a projector model halogen. Ive seen that done to alot of cars before. It would look nice on an intrigue too...

s dinel
11-14-2007, 12:55 PM
That might be a good option too, if I can't find orignal factory lights. But if I don't have to custom mount and fit that would be the way I would like to go. Either way though I could still use the factory installed lighting and switching.

If I was to fill the slot and mount projectors I might double the lights and have a set of driving lights and a set of fog lights. I forget the difference one is on with the low beams and the other is one with the high beam head lights.

LittleHoov
11-14-2007, 01:09 PM
I just looked at http://www.car-parts.com

I searched for a right-side foglamp and came up with about 2 pages of results, some wanted as little as 20 bucks, others as much as 70. Plus it would have to be shipped.

I still say a local scrap yard, or Ebay or something of that nature.

Personally Ive never found the fog lights on my Intrigue to be that bright, I just drive with them on because they look cool.

s dinel
11-15-2007, 10:04 AM
Personally Ive never found the fog lights on my Intrigue to be that bright, I just drive with them on because they look cool.

Hi LittleHoov,

I really am looking to get them more for looks than for their usefuleness. I think the car looks better with them. and I always think a car looks better with fog lights on. BUt min looked UGLY...Milky White on on side, fogged and grey on the other side and neither worked. I really have an ugly situation now. I removed the one (yes only one) and I refuse to do more (put it back or remove the other) until I decide on a solution.

harmankardon35
11-19-2007, 05:24 AM
When i went to get replacment bulbs, the bulb for the intrigue was 801 or something like that (not sure)...but they were 14 dollars each at wal-mart. Then i noticed another bulb that was IDENTICAL exept the tip of the bulb didnt have that black coating on it...same wattage, same connector. It was only 4 dollars per bulb! and without that black tip on the bulb they were definatly brighter (sure they glare a bit more but i dont think its too bad) So next time your in the auto parts store look for a bulb that identical to the replacment for the intrigue without the black tip...save some $$ and have brighter lights.

LittleHoov
11-19-2007, 09:33 AM
Whats the bulb number on that?

Sounds similar to what you can do with the headlight bulbs. A 9005 (hi-beam) bulb will fit in a 9006 (low-beam) socket if you remove the tab on the socket of the bulb.

s dinel
11-22-2007, 01:24 PM
Any one know if the Buick Regal fogs will fit the intrigue? I know I've seen this question before...either here or on oldsmobileforums.com.

They are only like $30 a side at Rock Auto

LittleHoov
11-27-2007, 07:01 PM
When i went to get replacment bulbs, the bulb for the intrigue was 801 or something like that (not sure)...but they were 14 dollars each at wal-mart. Then i noticed another bulb that was IDENTICAL exept the tip of the bulb didnt have that black coating on it...same wattage, same connector. It was only 4 dollars per bulb! and without that black tip on the bulb they were definatly brighter (sure they glare a bit more but i dont think its too bad) So next time your in the auto parts store look for a bulb that identical to the replacment for the intrigue without the black tip...save some $$ and have brighter lights.


Well one of my foglights burned out, so I replaced it with one I had laying around, that lasted a day and it burnt out. Im hoping that was a fluke.

But to my point, I dropped by Autozone and decided to find the bulbs that harmankardon mentioned and I did. The OE bulb for the Intrigue is the 893, which is a 37.5 watt bulb... I did some looking around and found the 885 which is identical to the 898 except it doesnt have the black tip, AND its also a 50 watt bulb...and theyre basically the same price.

I just finished installing them and they do seem brighter, they would have to be. The only problem I had was locking them in place once the bulb was in the housing. They turned VERY hard, Im thinking the rubber material around the base of the bulb may be a little thicker, I didnt bother to compare that.

Bottom line 885 bulbs fit Intrigue fog lights, theyre 12 watts brighter without the black tip.

harmankardon35
11-27-2007, 09:41 PM
the idea behind the black tip is to meet DOT requirments for driving lights. I guess there is too much glare directly off of the bulb, the same thing is on headlights. The older headlights have the black tips but the newer ones (like the intrigue) has a cap that goes directly over the bulb ...Personally I think the foglights in the intrigue aren't bright enough with the 37 watt bulb (i couldn't tell weather they were on or off at night) But with the brighter bulbs without the black tip I can tell the difference because it fills in the dark spot beside and in front of the car. I found the bulbs at Partsource for around $4 each, this was in Canada. The OE bulbs were $14 each...so cheaper and brighter!

LittleHoov
11-27-2007, 09:49 PM
Yeah I agree that they are brighter, I could tell when the old ones were on, but these are quite a bit brighter.

I could care less about glare and things of that nature. Im running Silverstar 9005 high beams, Sylvania 9005 (Hi-beam bulbs) as my lows, and now brighter fog lights.
DOT can kiss my behind.

If its legal for a Nissan Altima/Maxima to have those unholy bright HID lights, I think I can have a tad brighter lighting here and there:)

I was actually considering the idea of soldering some brighter bulbs say like a 9006 or 9005 and soldering them onto the foglight bulb housing...I think it would create too much heat though, or could possibly even start a fire of some kind. But its an idea.

harmankardon35
11-27-2007, 09:59 PM
I dont understand how BMW, lexus, audi,nissan and many new cars can get DOT aproval for those brilliant shimmering purple/blue/white then blue, then white again, then purple lights! lol.....i swear they blind you worse than halogen highbeams. You could probably solder brighter lights in your fogs if you rigged up some sort of heat sheilding for the top of the housing...maybe some vent holes?

LittleHoov
11-27-2007, 10:14 PM
My only concern with vent holes would be water getting in there, I dont know about you but I have some moisture build up as it is, let alone pure water being able to run in there. I think the first time you drove in rain at night, youd have two burnt out or exploded bulbs.

Now youve got me wondering how bright my low beams would be if I removed that cap......perhaps a new project.

If you really wanted to get some light goin, somehow wiring the low beams to stay on with the highs would be awesome. Ive done it before while holding down the "flash to pass feature" and it flat out lights things up.

Hoppy2
11-28-2007, 06:03 AM
I don't think that the brightness being greater is anything to worry about in way of breaking the law. I notice most people who install aftermarket lights on their car don't bother to aim them properly, hence blinding me and anyone else driving towards them.

harmankardon35
11-28-2007, 06:59 PM
your right...with these new HID lights everywhere i dont think you really can do much to halogen lights that will make them too bright. Certainly not with foglights. I think the new ford trucks have 65 watt fog lights. My biggest beef is with the HID lights...the changing blue/white colour and the glare is horrible when you are on the road alot..especially in rain....littlehoov...i took the caps out of the headlights in a 1999 ford zx2 and i noticed a it more light up front and to the sides. Gave it kind of a cool "glowing" effect too...like a halo off the bulb. Its worth a try.

ND4SP
12-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Well one of my foglights burned out, so I replaced it with one I had laying around, that lasted a day and it burnt out. Im hoping that was a fluke.

But to my point, I dropped by Autozone and decided to find the bulbs that harmankardon mentioned and I did. The OE bulb for the Intrigue is the 893, which is a 37.5 watt bulb... I did some looking around and found the 885 which is identical to the 898 except it doesnt have the black tip, AND its also a 50 watt bulb...and theyre basically the same price.

I just finished installing them and they do seem brighter, they would have to be. The only problem I had was locking them in place once the bulb was in the housing. They turned VERY hard, Im thinking the rubber material around the base of the bulb may be a little thicker, I didnt bother to compare that.

Bottom line 885 bulbs fit Intrigue fog lights, theyre 12 watts brighter without the black tip.

Littlehoov,

You should monitor the wiring on those lights. It looks pretty light for anything more than the 37.5. Let me know what you find out. If it works fine, I might do the same. I upgraded bulbs in an after market set of projector style lights, the wiring started smoking one night, and melted the h3ll out of the plug..

ND4SP
12-05-2007, 04:07 AM
Anyone who upgraded their bulbs to the 885, have you noticed the wires getting hot, have you even checked. I would love to do this, just don't want the factory harness to go up in smoke....

phewop118
12-06-2007, 04:32 PM
My only concern with vent holes would be water getting in there, I dont know about you but I have some moisture build up as it is, let alone pure water being able to run in there. I think the first time you drove in rain at night, youd have two burnt out or exploded bulbs.

Now youve got me wondering how bright my low beams would be if I removed that cap......perhaps a new project.

If you really wanted to get some light goin, somehow wiring the low beams to stay on with the highs would be awesome. Ive done it before while holding down the "flash to pass feature" and it flat out lights things up.


I really want to do this, cause my high beams aren't bright enough for dark rural areas, so I drive holding the flash to pass in, sometimes for 15 min+. I wonder if it's possible to somehow rig it up so that when I turn the high beams the lows stay on. In fact, the more that I think about it, the more I want to do it, as it will allow me to put HID's in there for the lows, as you need them to stay on when you put the highs on so you don't wear them out early.

LittleHoov
12-06-2007, 07:50 PM
If your headlights suck that bad, the foglights wont really make that much of a difference.

How do your lenses look? Are they clear? What bulbs are you running?

I drive in rural areas as well, and Ive never had a problem with my high beams, different people have different ideas of brightness I guess.

harmankardon35
12-09-2007, 12:04 AM
a few years ago there used to be direct replacment HID bulbs that you could install...the bulb itself fit into the standard headlight housing but they had to connect to an external ballast wich required some wiring. I beleive the problem with them was the unperfect conditions inside of a standard headlight (moisture etc)...these gas-discharge bulbs would self destruct with even the slightest inperfection (making installing them a NIGTMARE)...but if you can find them they are damn bright (look similar to marcedees headlights...HID without the "magnafying glass" look)...i guess you could upgrade your headlights to a higher wattage bulb. You could also connect a jumper from your high beam circuit to the low circuit so they both stay on with highbeams. Another option is to take out your headlights and polish both sides of the lesnses to factory clear.....Alot of options for more brightness...

ND4SP
12-15-2007, 03:02 AM
Anyone that changed over to the 885 bulbs, have you looked at your wiring going to the fog lights? Just want to make sure there isn't any problem with this....

robharrisva
12-29-2007, 06:55 PM
After getting tired of the short life of the SilverStar 893ST bulbs, I ordered a pair of direct replacement 37.5W Plasmaglow 893 xenon-krypton bulbs. When I opened the packaging, I found both bulbs bent at an approximately 30 degree angle as if by design. Perhaps it was done to help alleviate the "dark spot" caused by the dark tip or simply to fit other vehicles. Anyone else experience this with aftermarket 893 bulbs?

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