Dodge Viper Vector
(D)Joys Designz
10-25-2007, 08:19 AM
How to delete my profile? and posts? I go to another forum.
G-man422
10-25-2007, 12:30 PM
tires look a little big in the back.
drunken monkey
10-25-2007, 01:40 PM
I have to say, if all you're doing is taking an image into photoshop, then essentially tracing the elements and re-filling them in to replicate the image in a realistic way, I don't really see the point.
What difference is there between the original and yours?
I mean, what do you add to the image?
What difference is there between the original and yours?
I mean, what do you add to the image?
Rothart
10-25-2007, 02:23 PM
That live trace tool is a pretty cool thing.:lol:
drunken monkey
10-25-2007, 02:52 PM
Don't get me wrong as it is a good skill to have and the results are stunning. It's just something that I've always questioned. It's the same with people who paint to replicate photos and end up with essentially a big paint by numbers thing. It kinda makes the point of painting in the first place, redundant.
SieG
10-25-2007, 03:59 PM
I havent seen the work because its deleted, but if its well done, I have to say i like that type of work. Its the same thing if you do a 3d model off blueprints and it looks photorealistic.
This guy's work is amazing, all of it, 3d, vector, vexel.. apart from those with lots of stickers, but its just a question of what i like or not, but the work is amazing, I wish i could do that - http://dangeruss.deviantart.com/gallery/ , check it out.
For me its (quality vector or vexel) more difficult to do, than to draw my drawings (freehand). And DEFINETLY its a lot more difficult than hand drawing by grid or tracing (no offense at all to those draw that way, but i think its self-cheating and isnt really teaching you anything at all, apart from colouring).
Just my opinion.
Jin
This guy's work is amazing, all of it, 3d, vector, vexel.. apart from those with lots of stickers, but its just a question of what i like or not, but the work is amazing, I wish i could do that - http://dangeruss.deviantart.com/gallery/ , check it out.
For me its (quality vector or vexel) more difficult to do, than to draw my drawings (freehand). And DEFINETLY its a lot more difficult than hand drawing by grid or tracing (no offense at all to those draw that way, but i think its self-cheating and isnt really teaching you anything at all, apart from colouring).
Just my opinion.
Jin
drunken monkey
10-25-2007, 04:13 PM
great attitude there.
Someone says something you don't like and you delete your post.
so when you asked
What do you think ?
you were only asking for people to say nice things?
This guy's work is amazing, all of it, 3d, vector, vexel.. apart from those with lots of stickers, but its just a question of what i like or not, but the work is amazing, I wish i could do that - http://dangeruss.deviantart.com/gallery/ , check it out.
Looking at that, they're renders of 3Dstudio models; that is something entirely different to vector drawings in something like illustrator.
Someone says something you don't like and you delete your post.
so when you asked
What do you think ?
you were only asking for people to say nice things?
This guy's work is amazing, all of it, 3d, vector, vexel.. apart from those with lots of stickers, but its just a question of what i like or not, but the work is amazing, I wish i could do that - http://dangeruss.deviantart.com/gallery/ , check it out.
Looking at that, they're renders of 3Dstudio models; that is something entirely different to vector drawings in something like illustrator.
SieG
10-25-2007, 04:16 PM
Looking at that, they're renders of 3Dstudio models; that is something entirely different to vector drawings in something like illustrator.
there are 3d, vector and vexel works there. even on the 1st page(vexels and 3d there, look further pages there are some vector works too).
i know what illustrator, photoshop, and 3d max is.
look more carefully, some really cool stuff there.
Jin
there are 3d, vector and vexel works there. even on the 1st page(vexels and 3d there, look further pages there are some vector works too).
i know what illustrator, photoshop, and 3d max is.
look more carefully, some really cool stuff there.
Jin
drunken monkey
10-25-2007, 04:19 PM
oops.
i must have managed to click on all of the 3DS renders.....
Looking back, the difference between what those guys do and what some others do, is that they use the original car image as a basis for modifications.
As I asked in a similar thread in the Graphic Manipulation forum, what difference is there between the original image and the new image. If there is little to none, what is the point?
i must have managed to click on all of the 3DS renders.....
Looking back, the difference between what those guys do and what some others do, is that they use the original car image as a basis for modifications.
As I asked in a similar thread in the Graphic Manipulation forum, what difference is there between the original image and the new image. If there is little to none, what is the point?
Rothart
10-25-2007, 06:17 PM
oops.
i must have managed to click on all of the 3DS renders.....
Looking back, the difference between what those guys do and what some others do, is that they use the original car image as a basis for modifications.
As I asked in a similar thread in the Graphic Manipulation forum, what difference is there between the original image and the new image. If there is little to none, what is the point?
The point, to some, is that you can resize the vector image to any size you want. Whether for web, print or large scale print like bilboards or banners and it will always look the same. If you take an image off the internet and try resize and print it, it comes out like crap. (plus you can get busted for copyrights) But if you make a really good vector rendering and alter that, then your sizing can be infinite and the image becomes your own. Take some of my work for example. I find images of cars and trace the shapes of the cars as a place to start. Then I change the colors and simplify them for screen printing. It's just a little easier and the result is just as cool as if you were to draw it and then add color and to be honest, you probably couldn't tell the difference.
For others, they just like the way a vector image looks and if you want to change any elements of the artwork, you can do so quickly and easlily.
:2cents:
i must have managed to click on all of the 3DS renders.....
Looking back, the difference between what those guys do and what some others do, is that they use the original car image as a basis for modifications.
As I asked in a similar thread in the Graphic Manipulation forum, what difference is there between the original image and the new image. If there is little to none, what is the point?
The point, to some, is that you can resize the vector image to any size you want. Whether for web, print or large scale print like bilboards or banners and it will always look the same. If you take an image off the internet and try resize and print it, it comes out like crap. (plus you can get busted for copyrights) But if you make a really good vector rendering and alter that, then your sizing can be infinite and the image becomes your own. Take some of my work for example. I find images of cars and trace the shapes of the cars as a place to start. Then I change the colors and simplify them for screen printing. It's just a little easier and the result is just as cool as if you were to draw it and then add color and to be honest, you probably couldn't tell the difference.
For others, they just like the way a vector image looks and if you want to change any elements of the artwork, you can do so quickly and easlily.
:2cents:
drunken monkey
10-25-2007, 07:03 PM
Actually, there have been instances where copying an image in any way (i.e vector drawing of) has been taken as infringement of copyright of not just the image but of the trademarked designs of logos as well.
It's just that these things used to get overlooked by the corporate lawyers.
It only really becomes an issue if you start to make money from them.
There is a grey area when it comes to making a vector drawing of an image that aims to reproduce that image and whether or not it is copyright infringement. A copy of an image is just that, a copy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for or against the laws as I have copied images that I do not own for various (non-profit) purposes. Nor am I dismissing the skill in reproducing photos in vector drawings. I'm just not sure where it fits.
It's just that these things used to get overlooked by the corporate lawyers.
It only really becomes an issue if you start to make money from them.
There is a grey area when it comes to making a vector drawing of an image that aims to reproduce that image and whether or not it is copyright infringement. A copy of an image is just that, a copy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for or against the laws as I have copied images that I do not own for various (non-profit) purposes. Nor am I dismissing the skill in reproducing photos in vector drawings. I'm just not sure where it fits.
GirlBear
10-25-2007, 10:25 PM
Where is it?
(D)Joys Designz
10-26-2007, 02:24 AM
This forum is a little bit boring, i want to go to another forum, thats why I deleted my post.
And I don't make vectors with photoshop or illustrator live trace..
And I don't make vectors with photoshop or illustrator live trace..
nicecar
10-26-2007, 10:24 AM
ok., so a little criticism, and your outta here? so what if someone doesnt like it. You dont do your own work because other people like it do you? you do it because you want to, and wether others like it or not has nothing to do with what you think, so discard the comments in your mind and continue to do it if you find it fun.
Thats why im still here, after almost 3 years of hard criticism.
Thats why im still here, after almost 3 years of hard criticism.
Rothart
10-26-2007, 12:52 PM
This forum is a little bit boring, i want to go to another forum, thats why I deleted my post.
And I don't make vectors with photoshop or illustrator live trace..
If you're not creating the pictures with live trace, then how are you doing it? Show us the way Obi Wan! We would like to know. There are a lot of different techniques out there that maybe others could use and/or would like to learn. I'm always open to new stuff. Criticism is a good way to learn, good or bad. Don't take it so hard.
And I don't make vectors with photoshop or illustrator live trace..
If you're not creating the pictures with live trace, then how are you doing it? Show us the way Obi Wan! We would like to know. There are a lot of different techniques out there that maybe others could use and/or would like to learn. I'm always open to new stuff. Criticism is a good way to learn, good or bad. Don't take it so hard.
venom_design
10-26-2007, 01:01 PM
hey people,
i will tell you why she left, cause she's a friend of mine.
she's not formilliar with english forums and she'd like to try it,
because i told her that her work was very nice.
But it didnt work out for her like she thought it
would be (not because of the replies)
beside that, her english is not really good so if she want to say
something, she don't know how to say it in english
(thats my problem also sometimes;))
I'll ask her if she want to put her work back on the forum.
And as reply on 'drunken monkeys' first post. I think it is art..
i think its very good if you are abled to do this in illustrator..
it's not just tracing a picture, its the way you do it.
(if she had the real one as underlayer..dunno how she did it)
but ok, this really is an oppinion..i cant say ur wrong if you think so..
i hope my post is a bit understandable, cause sometimes i cant oversee what im writing haha..
greetings Robert
i will tell you why she left, cause she's a friend of mine.
she's not formilliar with english forums and she'd like to try it,
because i told her that her work was very nice.
But it didnt work out for her like she thought it
would be (not because of the replies)
beside that, her english is not really good so if she want to say
something, she don't know how to say it in english
(thats my problem also sometimes;))
I'll ask her if she want to put her work back on the forum.
And as reply on 'drunken monkeys' first post. I think it is art..
i think its very good if you are abled to do this in illustrator..
it's not just tracing a picture, its the way you do it.
(if she had the real one as underlayer..dunno how she did it)
but ok, this really is an oppinion..i cant say ur wrong if you think so..
i hope my post is a bit understandable, cause sometimes i cant oversee what im writing haha..
greetings Robert
(D)Joys Designz
10-26-2007, 01:02 PM
If you're not creating the pictures with live trace, then how are you doing it? Show us the way Obi Wan! We would like to know. There are a lot of different techniques out there that maybe others could use and/or would like to learn. I'm always open to new stuff. Criticism is a good way to learn, good or bad. Don't take it so hard.
I can't explain it :uhoh: my english is very bad , i'm sorry maybe I friedn of mine can help me... to explain it
I can't explain it :uhoh: my english is very bad , i'm sorry maybe I friedn of mine can help me... to explain it
SieG
10-27-2007, 05:09 PM
If you're not creating the pictures with live trace, then how are you doing it? Show us the way Obi Wan! We would like to know. There are a lot of different techniques out there that maybe others could use and/or would like to learn. I'm always open to new stuff. Criticism is a good way to learn, good or bad. Don't take it so hard.
What do you mean "how"? you want a "step by step"? search the net for it, if you really are interested.
there are a lot of tutorials
make outlines, fill them with color or gradients, or use the gradient mesh. it takes time, patience, and skill.
see this guys work for example, its just a LOT of outlines and flat color fills... try doing that, and maybe then you will stop saying stupid things about something you dont know. http://pentoolart.com/motorcycles.html
critisism is good, but not when it comes from someone who has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about.
Jin
What do you mean "how"? you want a "step by step"? search the net for it, if you really are interested.
there are a lot of tutorials
make outlines, fill them with color or gradients, or use the gradient mesh. it takes time, patience, and skill.
see this guys work for example, its just a LOT of outlines and flat color fills... try doing that, and maybe then you will stop saying stupid things about something you dont know. http://pentoolart.com/motorcycles.html
critisism is good, but not when it comes from someone who has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about.
Jin
Rothart
10-27-2007, 10:44 PM
What do you mean "how"? you want a "step by step"? search the net for it, if you really are interested.
there are a lot of tutorials
make outlines, fill them with color or gradients, or use the gradient mesh. it takes time, patience, and skill.
see this guys work for example, its just a LOT of outlines and flat color fills... try doing that, and maybe then you will stop saying stupid things about something you dont know. http://pentoolart.com/motorcycles.html
critisism is good, but not when it comes from someone who has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about.
Jin
Once again SieG enters a thread and destroys it with a negative bullshit attitude.:lol: :banhim:
there are a lot of tutorials
make outlines, fill them with color or gradients, or use the gradient mesh. it takes time, patience, and skill.
see this guys work for example, its just a LOT of outlines and flat color fills... try doing that, and maybe then you will stop saying stupid things about something you dont know. http://pentoolart.com/motorcycles.html
critisism is good, but not when it comes from someone who has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about.
Jin
Once again SieG enters a thread and destroys it with a negative bullshit attitude.:lol: :banhim:
Roboduck
10-28-2007, 04:07 PM
Just a note.. re: dangeruss.deviant art... I only wish I could master any of the programs he uses. The work, regardless if he traces (which most illustrators do) or uses light pencil.. the work it takes to become that proficient is nothing short of spectacular. Unless one uses the mediums, it's hard to understand the amount of time it takes to do the detailing involved.
I, for one, appreciate the talent involved - in any form of automotive art. Roboduck
I, for one, appreciate the talent involved - in any form of automotive art. Roboduck
nicecar
10-29-2007, 12:20 PM
What he said ^
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