Impreza facelift

Finally... they've seen sense and facelifted what was quite possibly the ugliest car in the world!!

http://www.sportscartesting.com/Media/cache/5/5796_596x447.jpg

those front lights are ridiculous, the car looks like a caricature of what a fast car should look like

http://www.sportscartesting.com/Media/cache/5/5797_596x447.jpg

what a horrible, horrible rear wing!! again the caricature point... the rear lights are improved though...

lets be truthful, its still not much of a looker is it? :(

stupid subaru b*stards

Personally I think it is a big improvement. The headlights look a whole lot better. The rear wing will probably not be on the normal WRX but I think that wing is for the STI, and it is pretty much the same wing as the current STI has.

I think Subaru has made a change for the better. It looks more aggressive and sporty. As far as looks go the Lancer peaked with the Evo 5 and since then the looks have gotten continusouly tamer. I am glad to see that Subaru did not come back with a tamer looking version of the WRX.

IMHO that facelift on the head lights looks crap i liked the whole bug eyed look but the best was definately the late 90's but the new heads are uglay. new tails are alright but im just fine with the subbie we got right now and from what i hear since it sells good in the US we are keeping the style we have now. as for the evo 7 i think it looks great. a little more class with the aggressive edge still in the drivers seat (no pun intended)

-GTi-VR6_A3

I agree. The GC/GF looked the hottest, then the bug eye GDA/GDB, then this.. this isn't really much of an improvement. The headlights look ok but the whole front isn't as agressive as the last one. The interiors alot nicer though

greenkoolaid76>

yeah, it is a big improvement but lets face it, anything over the old headlights would be a big improvement. I still think the new units are very dull and lack any imagination. In fact, i think it screams "supa-huyndaaaaiiiii!" in a crazy japanese voice...
at least the rear wing isnt standard, as u say...

greenkoolaid76>

yeah, it is a big improvement but lets face it, anything over the old headlights would be a big improvement. I still think the new units are very dull and lack any imagination. In fact, i think it screams "supa-huyndaaaaiiiii!" in a crazy japanese voice...
at least the rear wing isnt standard, as u say...

sorry, computer's going nuts so im having a hard time posting :bloated:

I mispelt "Hyundai" though... the legions and legions of Hyundai fans will be so upset :lol2:

I just got that 04' impreza WRX with a face lift. Its got a bigger hood scoop then last year and it also has new seats, so nice.

What do you guys expect of one of the best rally cars out there. Alot of people find the Porsche 911 style to be ugly as hell as well, but again, function before fashion. And I'm sure that large rear wing is doing more than just some aftermarket bi-level carbon fiber wing that someone is gonna put on their Honda. And of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how much it sucks :D

chris

edit: and I'd vote the ugliest car in the world to be the Lancia Delta S4 which as everyone knows was tuned by Abarth :p But its still my all time dream car.

i like the headlights alot more than the ugly neon-looking round ones. only question is why a 4 door? the 2.5RS was the best chassis, if it had the turbo engine with the 6spd it would burn the STI

Actually the newer GDA/GDB chassis is the better chassis. Subaru engineers made it more rigid and it led to better handling. The facelift is just an exterior touch-up as the the chassis is still GD_

chris

by better i mean lighter and 2-door (as all sports cars should be), with some work i would still take it over the newer one. i like the new AWD system though, the STI does kick ass

Did you guys never get 2 door WRX's over there???

the current shape looks a lot like the RSK legacy from the front....

The last two models have only been 4 doors, but prior there were coupes. Why does it matter tho, I'm still yet to see an Evo coupe. I personally believe that the 97-98 (version 6) model is the best looking....

damn you guys got 2-doors? they only kind Ive seen are sedans, except for the old RS, if you guys have the '04 STI in 2 door im gona be pissed ;). as far as looks i dont think it makes a big difference but i would gladly go to the extra effort of folding the seats to get in the back for the decrease in weight / increase in rigidity.

The STi and base WRX have always been Subaru Imprezas. The Impreza line ended its coupes in MY2001 for the rest of the world, and MY2002 for the USA. As far as the Cusco JGTC car goes, I have no idea how they made that into a coupe, probably alot of body work :D
The current WRX/STi version is 8. My bug eyed beauty is a version 7 and version 6 and previous all have the old Impreza 2.5RS looks, some were coupes, some sedans. The STi Type Rs I believe were the coupes, along with the 22B (yummy! :licker: )

chris

^ jesus you sure know your Subarus :)

we've never had a 2 door wrx over here, or a wrx prior to the new style, version 8 cars.

there is no 2 door version 8. won't be.

the older cars, like the 2.5rs can easily be converted with a wrx ej20 motor swap...

would the loss of the .5lt be worth it? what would you think about working on the ej25 and turbocharging it?

the ej20 is a turbo motor stock.

it's worth it...

turbo'ing the rs motor is not hard to do, but hard to keep running.

if you remember the SCC mag project car, they always had issues with it... after the turbo...

it'd be easier to buy a motor that's already turbo'd, especially in that car...

and .5 liters isn't as big an issue as reliability

oh well that makes sense, is the 2.5 just not as well made of a block as the 2.0 or is it more the internals?

Originally posted by Kill4A911
oh well that makes sense, is the 2.5 just not as well made of a block as the 2.0 or is it more the internals?

Actually some nutzoid WRX owners who really wanna go with big power tend to take the EJ25 engine that powers the current 2.5RS and reinforce it, and then turbocharge it. I'm not sure the RS comes with a rear LSD, so that is probably why people don't just buy the new RSes and TC them. Alot of older GC8 style RS owners (coupes mostly) will either do the EJ20 swap, or will settle for TCing the EJ25. When the new STi arrives with its AVCS 2.5L Turbo engine, I'm sure both GC8 RSes and GDA WRXes will want to get their hands on that engine. And yeah, I'm a little bit of a Subaru fan ;)

chris

Actually some nutzoid WRX owners who really wanna go with big power tend to take the EJ25 engine that powers the current 2.5RS and reinforce it, and then turbocharge it. I'm not sure the RS comes with a rear LSD, so that is probably why people don't just buy the new RSes and TC them. Alot of older GC8 style RS owners (coupes mostly) will either do the EJ20 swap, or will settle for TCing the EJ25. When the new STi arrives with its AVCS 2.5L Turbo engine, I'm sure both GC8 RSes and GDA WRXes will want to get their hands on that engine. And yeah, I'm a little bit of a Subaru fan

hmm my dad wants to turbocharge his RS but maby he would be better off with an engine swap... i think it does have a viscous LSD in back but the front is open unfortunantly. ive allways wondered, will the flat-6 from the outback fit? it would mess up the weight ratio but god think of it... ::drools on self::

Actually no WRXs have a front LSD either. Only the STi will. And if you are patient, it is rumored that a twin turbo flat 6 3.0L will take residence in the Legacy chassis in the near future. ;)

chris

really? for some reason i was thinking the WRX had a front LSD i guess its the STi on my mind:). i searched for the legacy and saw somthing about the new one being turbocharged... but what do you think about about a 6 cylinder impreza, would it be too expensive to be worth it?

It seems Subaru's target will be the Audi's new S4 and other cars in that class, and their horsepower goal is 350 hp. And it will probably cost 35-40K for that legacy. But would I pay that much for a SUBARU? Hell YEAH! Not only has my WRX been reliable for 18K miles, but maintanence is so easy. The cars are IMHO well built, but not luxury well built like Audis or BMWs. As far as the Legacies go, they are a bit more luxury and more roomy, and I'd love a twin turbo boxer 6 with a nice leather interior, painted blue or that B4 RSK purple, and 3 limited slip diffs (hell i dont even need the center active diff, but itd be a nice touch). When people say "In the end its just a SUBARU!", you should just thank them and take that as an added compliment. :D

chris

^ i was talking about a 6 cylinder engine swap i guess i wasnt clear about it. im not really into luxury-type cars but that would be a nice one, hows the chassis of the legacy?

I dont think a 3.0L flat 6 would fit unfortunately. But I have seen the Legacies of Japan with the EJ20s in them handle amazingly.

chris

hmm thats sounds pretty tempting. i could get used to that, killer performance with leg room and leather seats...

here are some JDM Legacies with the EJ20 engine and twin turbo performance to boot:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/japan/legacy1.jpg
http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/japan/legacy3.jpg
http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/html/legacy.html

http://www.supercars.net/garages/ImprezaBuff/24v2.html

leg room and enough power to "leg it" :D

chris

wow those are pretty! i must have only seen the older models. thanks for all the info man :)

god a flat 6 twin turbo twin exost wrx with a 5 speed in mika blue toping out at 160 that would be a rally machine wouldent it :devil:
sadly beaing a big guy (6'4'') the legacy sounds better

god a flat 6 twin turbo twin exost wrx with a 5 speed in mika blue toping out at 160 that would be a rally machine wouldent it
how do you fit in an aspire?

IIRC the 3.0 was never offered with a manual transmission, and cannot be easily convertede to manual. So if you swapped that into an impreza, you're pretty much stuck with an auto.

Originally posted by pod
god a flat 6 twin turbo twin exost wrx with a 5 speed in mika blue toping out at 160 that would be a rally machine wouldent it :devil:
sadly beaing a big guy (6'4'') the legacy sounds better

It would make a great little rally toy, but you would not be able to race it in any FIA sanctioned/controlled rallies.....unless it was a regional event.
I may be wrong though.....

Kill4A911 quote:
how do you fit in an aspire?

move the seat back all the way then tilt it

and not easly convertible and not convertable are two diffrent things

btw if you havent all ready check out the legacy b4 on page 2