Hex Bolts
Murray Kish
10-15-2007, 04:35 PM
OK.... first question for the FAQ....
I'd like to make some small hex bolts. I thought it would be pretty simple, but I must be doing something wrong...
I have some brass hex rod (small, not exactly sure of the exact size since I'm at work right now.... ) and I figured the lathe would easily cut a rounded section to represent the threaded part of the bolt, and then I'd just part it off. Or, just slice off a piece of hex rod to act just as a bolt head that would be surface mounted...
Well, the brass basically just deflected on me and wouldn'd cut properly. I had the cutter running pretty close to the chuck, but really couldn't get it to work out like I hoped.
Perhaps just too small?? I'm guessing about 1- 1.5mm diameter brass hex rod. I have steady rest, but fail to see how that would help here? Is this a job for the follower rest? (of course, that would be about the only stinkin attachment I DIDN'T buy with my order..... :) )
Murray
I'd like to make some small hex bolts. I thought it would be pretty simple, but I must be doing something wrong...
I have some brass hex rod (small, not exactly sure of the exact size since I'm at work right now.... ) and I figured the lathe would easily cut a rounded section to represent the threaded part of the bolt, and then I'd just part it off. Or, just slice off a piece of hex rod to act just as a bolt head that would be surface mounted...
Well, the brass basically just deflected on me and wouldn'd cut properly. I had the cutter running pretty close to the chuck, but really couldn't get it to work out like I hoped.
Perhaps just too small?? I'm guessing about 1- 1.5mm diameter brass hex rod. I have steady rest, but fail to see how that would help here? Is this a job for the follower rest? (of course, that would be about the only stinkin attachment I DIDN'T buy with my order..... :) )
Murray
freakray
10-15-2007, 04:38 PM
What speed were you rotating the rod at?
Murray Kish
10-15-2007, 04:43 PM
Not very fast. I didn't pay too close attention, but most of the stuff I've been reading (from the Sherline propaganda....) says decrease speed, increase feed. So generally I've been in the bottom third/half of the speed control....
Should I wind it up and try high speed?
Should I wind it up and try high speed?
mike@af
10-15-2007, 07:06 PM
I've had no problem cutting aluminum and brass bolts. I cut them "backwards". The shaft facing the tailstock, and the head towards the head stock. I also only cut a length of the shaft a few millimeters at a time. About 3mm at a time. So if the bolt is 9mm long, it will require three stages of 3mm long cuts at a time.
http://ml-works.com/models/ace/frame/IMG_0829.jpg
Those are some tiny nuts/bolts I've cut before out of 6061.
http://ml-works.com/models/ace/frame/IMG_0829.jpg
Those are some tiny nuts/bolts I've cut before out of 6061.
MPWR
10-15-2007, 08:16 PM
You fiend, where'd you get the small dia hex rod? :lol: I've never been able to find it. :shakehead
Turning small diameter rod is a bit of a learned skill. More than likely, you will need to do any cutting and parting very close to the chuck jaws- maybe with in 1/4" or so. Run the speed up fairly high, and take very light cuts. Be slow and gentle when moving the cutting bit. A live centre or steady rest isn't really going to help you. Learning to do small diameters is really a finesse thing as much as anything else. I seem to remember there's something about turning small diameters in the Joe Martin book, too.
Hey Mike- are those nuts cut to a hex head? How'd you cut that?
Turning small diameter rod is a bit of a learned skill. More than likely, you will need to do any cutting and parting very close to the chuck jaws- maybe with in 1/4" or so. Run the speed up fairly high, and take very light cuts. Be slow and gentle when moving the cutting bit. A live centre or steady rest isn't really going to help you. Learning to do small diameters is really a finesse thing as much as anything else. I seem to remember there's something about turning small diameters in the Joe Martin book, too.
Hey Mike- are those nuts cut to a hex head? How'd you cut that?
cinqster
10-15-2007, 08:27 PM
You fiend, where'd you get the small dia hex rod? :lol: I've never been able to find it. :shakehead
Someone on the board suggested recently that K&S do it but I've not found it in the UK so far. Must admit I hate working with brass and have also had issues with thin bar.:banghead:
Someone on the board suggested recently that K&S do it but I've not found it in the UK so far. Must admit I hate working with brass and have also had issues with thin bar.:banghead:
mike@af
10-15-2007, 11:22 PM
Hey Mike- are those nuts cut to a hex head? How'd you cut that?
1/32" Ø Hex nuts. They were cut by making an index out of some 1/2"Ø Hex stock I had laying around. Basically, I made a force fit tool that the nut was lightly pressed on to. Milled it out. Popped it off with my X-Acto, and continued the motions until done.
1/32" Ø Hex nuts. They were cut by making an index out of some 1/2"Ø Hex stock I had laying around. Basically, I made a force fit tool that the nut was lightly pressed on to. Milled it out. Popped it off with my X-Acto, and continued the motions until done.
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