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IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 05:20 PM
What is the top speed of a V8 305 Caprice? 1991 is the year of the vehicle.

silicon212
10-09-2007, 08:42 PM
What is the top speed of a V8 305 Caprice? 1991 is the year of the vehicle.


Not enough info. Top speed under what considerations? Why do you want to know?

The 305 has achieved 120MPH in police use (9C1 police package), and probably in civilian use as well. I took my boxy 88 up to a little over 100 with the original 305. I once got a ticket by the California Highway Patrol in that version of my car for going 84 MPH (and there was still more power available from the engine).

Top speed is not really the issue - time is. I have no doubt that a properly-tuned and maintained 305 can hit the same speed as a 350 - at least on level ground - but you're talking 5 minutes versus 1 minute to achieve that speed, 305 vs 350.

That's where the 350 outshines the 305. With the 305 under the hood of my car, I learned to develop a good deal of patience with driving it. The 350 made it actually fun to drive. If I was the cop who drove that thing during its service, it'd be OK to drive around on patrols and such, but God help me if I needed to catch someone.

One nice thing about the 305 though - with it, my car averaged about 25MPG on the highway. Now, I'm lucky to get 20. That's the price I pay for performance though.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
Not enough info. Top speed under what considerations? Why do you want to know?

The 305 has achieved 120MPH in police use (9C1 police package), and probably in civilian use as well. I took my boxy 88 up to a little over 100 with the original 305. I once got a ticket by the California Highway Patrol in that version of my car for going 84 MPH (and there was still more power available from the engine).

Top speed is not really the issue - time is. I have no doubt that a properly-tuned and maintained 305 can hit the same speed as a 350 - at least on level ground - but you're talking 5 minutes versus 1 minute to achieve that speed, 305 vs 350.

That's where the 350 outshines the 305. With the 305 under the hood of my car, I learned to develop a good deal of patience with driving it. The 350 made it actually fun to drive. If I was the cop who drove that thing during its service, it'd be OK to drive around on patrols and such, but God help me if I needed to catch someone.

One nice thing about the 305 though - with it, my car averaged about 25MPG on the highway. Now, I'm lucky to get 20. That's the price I pay for performance though.

I thought the speedo of a 91 305 read like max of 80mph or was it 100 mph?

How much would it cost to swap in a 350 and what would i have to change?

And are caprice able to do donuts? I just want a caprice i could have as much fun in as people do in camaros

silicon212
10-09-2007, 09:04 PM
I can certainly do donuts in my car if I wish - but tires are expensive!

You can swap for a 350 and about the only thing you'd have to do is reprogram/replace the PROM on your ECM.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
I can certainly do donuts in my car if I wish - but tires are expensive!

You can swap for a 350 and about the only thing you'd have to do is reprogram/replace the PROM on your ECM.

Do you know how much that might be with the Prom/ecm price included.I read i could find a 350 motor for $300-$700.
What about the dash? Could i change the dash into the same as Impala SS and have everything working right?

I would buy a 5.7 or one with 350 already but i am only looking to spend 1000 or 1300 at most at the start

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 09:43 PM
Do you know how much that might be with the Prom/ecm price included.I read i could find a 350 motor for $300-$700.
What about the dash? Could i change the dash into the same as Impala SS and have everything working right?

I would buy a 5.7 or one with 350 already but i am only looking to spend 1000 or 1300 at most at the start


You can buy my 95, but I cant let it go for anything close to $1300. If I were you, I would just buy another caprice instead of going through the hassle of getting a new engine installed. Also, I think the tranny makes a difference too but I'm not a mechanic nor do I know alot about cars. I can only look at symptoms and guesstimate the problem (I have gotten better with my guesstimations lol)

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 09:51 PM
You can buy my 95, but I cant let it go for anything close to $1300. If I were you, I would just buy another caprice instead of going through the hassle of getting a new engine installed. Also, I think the tranny makes a difference too but I'm not a mechanic nor do I know alot about cars. I can only look at symptoms and guesstimate the problem (I have gotten better with my guesstimations lol)

Saving is the hard part

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 10:09 PM
Saving is the hard part

you wont really be saving much. It will be at least $1000 including the engine and labor unless you have a good mechanic that doesnt charge much. I would sell my old one and just buy a new one. That is what I plan on doing. I want to sell my 9c1 LT1 and get a B4C LS1 or I may just keep it and still buy a LS1.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 10:13 PM
you wont really be saving much. It will be at least $1000 including the engine and labor unless you have a good mechanic that doesnt charge much. I would sell my old one and just buy a new one. That is what I plan on doing. I want to sell my 9c1 LT1 and get a B4C LS1 or I may just keep it and still buy a LS1.

I rather pay 1g instead of 5gs and still have to put work into a car. 1g and no work mechanicly > 5gs and work to get it running.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 10:34 PM
I rather pay 1g instead of 5gs and still have to put work into a car. 1g and no work mechanicly > 5gs and work to get it running.

lol. Of course I wont get 5000 for my car without it running. That is why its in the shop now. Once I get this done and if I decide to keep it, I wont have to put anymore work into it. I have already done the following so there is not much more that can go wrong (everything is new of course):

water pump, thermostat
radiator
plugs/wires

completely new front end (if you get a 9c1 expect to get this done)
bushings, arms, tie rods, center link, and everything else

filters
tranny serviced
rear upper control arms
tips and mufflers (came of the line with factory true duals)
starter
flywheel (flexplate)
throttle body cleaned

I know thats not all I have done but all I can remember right now. When I first bought it in june, it only had 103K miles. I immediatly drove it from NJ to Oklahoma, then to Mississippi (over 3000 miles) with no problems other than the radiator busted. I have put 5000+ miles on it in 4 months with no major problems except the flywheel.

Plus it has almost new GM goodwrench engine/tranny, everything works, etc. It has also been put on a diagnostics machine. If I were to keep it I know I can get at least another 300k miles out of it. Try getting over 200k from a ford lol. Found On Road Daily??? Should be found on the side of the road daily ha!

Also, if you want one with 180K or more miles, my friend has a 93 9C1 LT1 with candy green paint (looks like a giant jolly rancher) that he is trying to sell. He just put a new tranny in it.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 10:37 PM
lol. Of course I wont get 5000 for my car without it running. That is why its in the shop now. Once I get this done and if I decide to keep it, I wont have to put anymore work into it. I have already done the following so there is not much more that can go wrong (everything is new of course):

water pump, thermostat
radiator
plugs/wires

completely new front end (if you get a 9c1 expect to get this done)
bushings, arms, tie rods, center link, and everything else

filters
tranny serviced
rear upper control arms
tips and mufflers (came of the line with factory true duals)
starter
flywheel (flexplate)
throttle body cleaned

I know thats not all I have done but all I can remember right now. When I first bought it in june, it only had 103K miles. I immediatly drove it from NJ to Oklahoma, then to Mississippi (over 3000 miles) with no problems other than the radiator busted. I have put 5000+ miles on it in 4 months with no major problems except the flywheel.

Plus it has almost new GM goodwrench engine/tranny, everything works, etc. It has also been put on a diagnostics machine. If I were to keep it I know I can get at least another 300k miles out of it. Try getting over 200k from a ford lol. Found On Road Daily??? Should be found on the side of the road daily ha! I


All i have to say

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/438621359.html

Most likely only needs paint

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 10:43 PM
I can certainly do donuts in my car if I wish - but tires are expensive!

You can swap for a 350 and about the only thing you'd have to do is reprogram/replace the PROM on your ECM.

I have done a 360 (with the big police tires) in mine but not on purpose. I probably would have done a 720 up a tree if it werent for the big tires. i will never hit the gas that hard on a turn again. It scared the sh*t out of me lol. I have burnt up 3 tires in 4 months. Thank god for used tires!!!

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 10:47 PM
All i have to say

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/438621359.html

Most likely only needs paint

$2900 for a 92? lol Dont pull up next to a 94-96 in that thing unless you want to get dusted. I wouldn't even pull up to another 93 in that thing. And no, mine doesnt really need painting, just a good detailing. Paint is in about the same condition as the 92. A good buffing should do the job. My friend with the candy 93 tried his luck and of course i left him. That was before I got wires/plugs/filters/etc and I can tell that its way faster after I got that done.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 10:55 PM
$2900 for a 92? lol Dont pull up next to a 94-96 in that thing unless you want to get dusted. I wouldn't even pull up to another 93 in that thing. And no, mine doesnt really need painting, just a good detailing. Paint is in about the same condition as the 92. A good buffing should do the job. My friend with the candy 93 tried his luck and of course i left him. That was before I got wires/plugs/filters/etc and I can tell that its way faster after I got that done.

police pkg. unless the 94-96 has mods then it wont be doing anything really. I don't see the big difference in performence

PeteA216
10-09-2007, 11:15 PM
And are caprice able to do donuts? I just want a caprice i could have as much fun in as people do in camaros
I had a 305 in my Caprice and it took a little more effort than a lighter car such as a Camaro or Trans Am, but I was able to rip a couple of dry-pavement doughnuts and power slides back in my highschool days. But as Silicon said, tires soon became expensive. I was known well throughout my highschool for my burnouts though like this one I have posted on YouTube: Caprice Classic Burnout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vJ5-ri_NC0). This is just before swapping to a 350 and a new transmission. The transmission, thanks to a long time misaligned TV cable and years of abuse, was beginning to slip pretty badly and thats why it had a little bit of a rough time getting going at first, but when it was younger it's light up that tire effortlessly.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
police pkg. unless the 94-96 has mods then it wont be doing anything really. I don't see the big difference in performence

lol, so you are saying that there is no difference between a regular caprice and a police caprice??? Lol, thats ssssoooo wrong. First of all, expect a regular caprice to shut down when it reaches a certain speed. A police caprice wont shut down (unless they stripped all police components). They have different PCMs among many other things. Plus it has tranny/oil coolers etc to extend the life of the engine/tranny. This is actually my first time ever hearing someone say there is no difference between a 9c1 and a stock... :lol: I wish you only knew how hard I just laughed lol. I'm not 100% sure, but I think 9c1s come with cams/shift kit, etc. I barely even feel my 9c1 change gears unlike a regular caprice I have driven (unless the regular had minor tranny problems, but it didn't feel like it). Also, if there is no difference, why did they even make a 9c1? Why not just paint the civilian caprices black and white and call it a 9c1 then???

I love the looks I get when im tearing up the block in my 9c1. Drive a regular caprice like a maniac and you are just dogging out a good car. Drive a police caprice like a maniac and you're doing exactly what the car was designed for. Everyone's always asking what I have under the hood. I have even read on here that a 9c1 will dust a impala SS any day and are even faster than the p71 crown vics/9c1 00+ impalas.

SILICON212 CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A REGULAR CAPRICE AND A POLICE CAPRICE? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE REASONS THEY ARE BETTER MYSELF. I have drove a regular caprice before with no mods and it was like driving a minivan or something lol.

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 11:28 PM
Where would be a good place to look for a caprice? auctions?

IwantAcaprice
10-09-2007, 11:32 PM
lol, so you are saying that there is no difference between a regular caprice and a police caprice??? Lol, thats ssssoooo wrong. First of all, expect a regular caprice to shut down when it reaches a certain speed. A police caprice wont shut down (unless they stripped all police components). They have different PCMs among many other things. Plus it has tranny/oil coolers etc to extend the life of the engine/tranny. This is actually my first time ever hearing someone say there is no difference between a 9c1 and a stock... :lol: I wish you only knew how hard I just laughed lol. I'm not 100% sure, but I think 9c1s come with cams/shift kit, etc. I barely even feel my 9c1 change gears unlike a regular caprice I have driven (unless the regular had minor tranny problems, but it didn't feel like it). Also, if there is no difference, why did they even make a 9c1? Why not just paint the civilian caprices black and white and call it a 9c1 then???

I love the looks I get when im tearing up the block in my 9c1. Drive a regular caprice like a maniac and you are just dogging out a good car. Drive a police caprice like a maniac and you're doing exactly what the car was designed for. Everyone's always asking what I have under the hood. I have even read on here that a 9c1 will dust a impala SS any day and are even faster than the p71 crown vics/9c1 00+ impalas.

SILICON212 CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A REGULAR CAPRICE AND A POLICE CAPRICE? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE REASONS THEY ARE BETTER MYSELF. I have drove a regular caprice before with no mods and it was like driving a minivan or something lol.
Did you not read the link i posted? it was a 1992 caprice POLICE PKG 5.7L. air digital dash for 2900. 104kmiles.

so i'll let you ponder on what you have done to yourself.

P.S.91-92 police pkg have 195HP 94-96 Have 260 HP

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 12:09 AM
Did you not read the link i posted? it was a 1992 caprice POLICE PKG 5.7L. air digital dash for 2900. 104kmiles.

so i'll let you ponder on what you have done to yourself.








O, Ok, sorry about that lol. to answer your question, there is a major difference between a 92 and a 95. a 94-96 9c1 will surely dust a 91-93 9c1. They made alot of changes under the hood 94 and up. My 95 looks nothing like my friends 93 under the hood. I guess I was right about a 9c1 dusting a impala. Check out the 95 9c1 dust this 96 impala ss!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdpx6vaH7I

if you look around on there alot, you will see 9c1 caprices dusting alot of suped up cars. I saw one on there that did 0-60 in like 5 seconds. I also saw a 96 SS dust a 97+ P71 Crown Vic. If you really want a good powerful caprice, go with the 94-96 unless you want to make mods.

wow, i just saw an impala dust a saleen mustang also.

Take a look on ebay and im sure you will find one. That is where i found all 3 of the 9c1s i have owned (2 93s including the 93 candy green one I sold to a friend and the 95 I have now). Try and find a police auction also. You probably can get a 94+ at a police auction for about $1000, maybe less. I found out that after I bought my 95, they were selling several in Oklahoma for about $500.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 12:29 AM
O, Ok, sorry about that lol. to answer your question, there is a major difference between a 92 and a 95. a 94-96 9c1 will surely dust a 91-93 9c1. They made alot of changes under the hood 94 and up. My 95 looks nothing like my friends 93 under the hood. I guess I was right about a 9c1 dusting a impala. Check out the 95 9c1 dust this 96 impala ss!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdpx6vaH7I

if you look around on there alot, you will see 9c1 caprices dusting alot of suped up cars. I saw one on there that did 0-60 in like 5 seconds. I also saw a 96 SS dust a 97+ P71 Crown Vic. If you really want a good powerful caprice, go with the 94-96 unless you want to make mods.

wow, i just saw an impala dust a saleen mustang also.

Take a look on ebay and im sure you will find one. That is where i found all 3 of the 9c1s i have owned (2 93s including the 93 candy green one I sold to a friend and the 95 I have now). Try and find a police auction also. You probably can get a 94+ at a police auction for about $1000, maybe less. I found out that after I bought my 95, they were selling several in Oklahoma for about $500.

the 94-96 Police pkg AND 94-96 Impala SS have the same amount of HP. Most likely the impala had less mods then the caprice in the video. I think ill hit up an auction this thursday. where could i find police auctions tho?

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 12:39 AM
the 94-96 Police pkg AND 94-96 Impala SS have the same amount of HP. Most likely the impala had less mods then the caprice in the video. I think ill hit up an auction this thursday. where could i find police auctions tho?

sorry about that. I was meaning to say city auction not police auction as the cars belong to the city, not the police department. Go to your local DMV, Im sure they can tell you. Just make sure that you don't go to a auction in a small city. They will, more than likely, strip the car down and you will be buying a regular caprice. That is why I went all the way to NJ to buy mine instead of buying one from Mississippi. I dont think it would be a good idea to ask them if the police chip is still in it. Just look for ones that still have the spotlight, siren, etc. If they havent taken the time out to takes the lights and stuff of, they probably havent changed anything on the engine either.

They might have the same HP, but they have different PCMs. now that i look at the vid closer, that was a pretty close race. I think they were only about a second apart.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 01:06 AM
sorry about that. I was meaning to say city auction not police auction as the cars belong to the city, not the police department. Go to your local DMV, Im sure they can tell you. Just make sure that you don't go to a auction in a small city. They will, more than likely, strip the car down and you will be buying a regular caprice. That is why I went all the way to NJ to buy mine instead of buying one from Mississippi. I dont think it would be a good idea to ask them if the police chip is still in it. Just look for ones that still have the spotlight, siren, etc. If they havent taken the time out to takes the lights and stuff of, they probably havent changed anything on the engine either.

They might have the same HP, but they have different PCMs. now that i look at the vid closer, that was a pretty close race. I think they were only about a second apart.


took off the driver in the caprice
"pcs94lt1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/pcs94lt1) (4 months ago) Sounds like you should have the transmission checked out, the 3-4 clutch pack may be going out, that would cause a delayed 2-3 shift. There is no difference in the drivetrain between the 9C1 and the Impala SS. Same engine, same trans, same rear gears, just minor differences like cooling fan motor, hoses, and rear axle shaft lengths."


The dmv will know auctions? huh lol???
Marked as spam

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 01:24 AM
took off the driver in the caprice
"pcs94lt1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/pcs94lt1) (4 months ago) Sounds like you should have the transmission checked out, the 3-4 clutch pack may be going out, that would cause a delayed 2-3 shift. There is no difference in the drivetrain between the 9C1 and the Impala SS. Same engine, same trans, same rear gears, just minor differences like cooling fan motor, hoses, and rear axle shaft lengths."


The dmv will know auctions? huh lol???
Marked as spam


lol, well it was just a logical guess. go to city hall or something. Someone should be able to tell you when and where to find an auction.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 01:26 AM
lol, well it was just a logical guess. go to city hall or something. Someone should be able to tell you when and where to find an auction.

I need to do that because i want the digital Speedo and the speed. But i don't feel like saving up 3gs to get a nice 94-96 caprice 9c1

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 01:41 AM
I need to do that because i want the digital Speedo and the speed. But i don't feel like saving up 3gs to get a nice 94-96 caprice 9c1

you can find one cheaper than $3000 if you are willing to put a little work into it. Since I have decided not to sell mine, I guess it wouldn't hurt to say I only paid $1700 for my 95 and have put around $2000 into it but all of it was not because I had to. I put most of the money into because the guy I got it from said it wasn't drove in a few months I still made it 3000 miles fine though and all i did was change tranny fluid, oil and radiator. Some of the work I have done could have waited but when I buy a used car I like to tune it up a little instead of just jumping in it and driving.

Now I am trying to decide whether to get my caddy back on the road or buy a LS1 camaro. do you know anything about caddies? I have a 95 northstar seville sls. Not the best looking caddy around but its one of the few things my dad left me when he passed.

silicon212
10-10-2007, 01:43 AM
Year to year, the differences between the '91-'96 9C1 cars vs. civilian cars was minimal. In fact, the LTZ version, was for better or worse, a 9C1 sold to the public with a 305 - until '93 when the L05 350 was offered. Both have the same heavy duty suspension, same 5-on-5 wheel pattern, same frame bracing, etc etc. Mostly because the '91-'96 cars are 600-800 pounds heavier than the earlier boxy cars (mine weighs in at about 3600 lbs curb, the later ones were 4200-4400 lbs). The differences were wider in earlier years.

The 350 wasn't available in the civvy until '93 with the LTZ (the CAFE requirements forced GM's hand here, not some desire to keep 350s out of civvy cars). The '94-'96 9C1 and civvy cars have the same powertrain combos, either 4.3L L99 or 5.7L LT1. On these years, the 9C1s had rear disc brakes, the only civvy car to get the rear disc treatment was the Imp SS. The biggest power difference between the '94-'96 civilian and 9C1 cars had to do with axle ratio - the 9C1s got 3.08s where the civilian LT1s (Imp SS included) were equipped with 2.93s. This allows a 9C1 to have somewhat quicker acceleration, at the expense of top speed vs. the Imp SS. Another difference was the location and amount of frame-to-body mount bushings - the civilian cars (including, again, the SS) have 8 where the 9C1 has the full compliment of 12. The reason here is stiffening for handling reasons.

Springs on the civilian cars were generally softer than the 9C1s, just due to people not necessarily wanting the kidney-stone loosening jarring of the 9C1 springs (they are tough - there is not one speck of sand on the road that my car doesn't translate into my lower back).

Stock vs. stock, a "Tri-Nine" 9C1 should outhandle and outquick an Impala SS, but the Impala SS will have a higher top end.

You might also find an 8.5" diff on a civilian car, but they will generally be 7.5". 9C1s are generally 8.5".

One other thing is the governor in the PCM - on the 9C1 this is set to 255MPH, effectively disabling it (a 9C1, or any other Caprice for that matter, won't achieve that speed without a JATO (http://www.snopes.com/autos/dream/jato.asp)).

You can flash the PCM in any of these cars to set the limit to the 255 top speed. Keep in mind - the governor is set to the speed rating of the tires the car was originally equipped with. Do NOT try to exceed the speed rating on your tires unless you wish to assume room temperature.

The earlier 9C1 cars ('77-'90) have more frame bracing than their civilian counterparts, and stronger suspension components - in addition to the above. On these cars, the civilian cars, as well as some 9C1s, had a 7.5" rear axle with 5-on-4.75" bolt patterns for the wheels. 9C1s mostly had 8.5" differentials with 5-on-5" bolt pattern wheels.

There are also some other differences, none of which affect performance.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 02:09 AM
hey silicon, I saw a race on youtube and a saleen mustang got dusted by a impala ss. Is that possible or was that ss suped up? Did you check out the race between the ss and 9c1 I posted?

Also, a few years back, I raced a mustang gt and dusted him in my 93 NY state trooper 9c1. Do mustangs really suck that bad or was he just playing with me? It was the 00 body style gt. I hope mustangs do not suck bad enough to lose to a full size 93 model...

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 02:17 AM
you can find one cheaper than $3000 if you are willing to put a little work into it. Since I have decided not to sell mine, I guess it wouldn't hurt to say I only paid $1700 for my 95 and have put around $2000 into it but all of it was not because I had to. I put most of the money into because the guy I got it from said it wasn't drove in a few months I still made it 3000 miles fine though and all i did was change tranny fluid, oil and radiator. Some of the work I have done could have waited but when I buy a used car I like to tune it up a little instead of just jumping in it and driving.

Now I am trying to decide whether to get my caddy back on the road or buy a LS1 camaro. do you know anything about caddies? I have a 95 northstar seville sls. Not the best looking caddy around but its one of the few things my dad left me when he passed.

all i know is the SLS are fast son of a guns. can fix them up real good.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 02:31 AM
all i know is the SLS are fast son of a guns. can fix them up real good.

yea, fast and expensive! lol. I must admit, I loved driving it. I think it will dust my 9c1 in a heartbeat. northstar caddys have been known to leave police cars. I thought it was just a myth or something until someone I know dusted them in his 96 deville (still got caught though, what an idiot lol) My seville shuts down at 110mph so they must have a very fast accelleration compared to a p71. Now that I think of it, that thing pulled way harder from a stand still compared to my 9c1. Its probably due to the traction control keeping it from burning out.. I need a tranny though. How much do you think the dealership wants for a used tranny with at least 100k miles? Just take a wild guess. I will give you a clue. If i were to add an extra $1000, I can go buy another sls/sts just like it if not newer. word of advice, dont fool with front wheel drive cars especially caddys! Caddys are already hard/expensive to work on and FWD makes it twice as hard/expensive. .

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 02:38 AM
yea, fast and expensive! lol. I must admit, I loved driving it. I think it will dust my 9c1 in a heartbeat. northstar caddys have been known to leave police cars. I thought it was just a myth or something until someone I know dusted them in his 96 deville (still got caught though, what an idiot lol) My seville shuts down at 110mph so they must have a very fast accelleration compared to a p71. Now that I think of it, that thing pulled way harder from a stand still compared to my 9c1. Its probably due to the traction control keeping it from burning out.. I need a tranny though. How much do you think the dealership wants for a used tranny with at least 100k miles? Just take a wild guess. I will give you a clue. If i were to add an extra $1000, I can go buy another sls/sts just like it if not newer. word of advice, dont fool with front wheel drive cars especially caddys! Caddys are already hard/expensive to work on and FWD makes it twice as hard/expensive. .

Is it possible to get floorshift put onto a caprice? hmmmmmm

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 02:40 AM
yea, fast and expensive! lol. I must admit, I loved driving it. I think it will dust my 9c1 in a heartbeat. northstar caddys have been known to leave police cars. I thought it was just a myth or something until someone I know dusted them in his 96 deville (still got caught though, what an idiot lol) My seville shuts down at 110mph so they must have a very fast accelleration compared to a p71. Now that I think of it, that thing pulled way harder from a stand still compared to my 9c1. Its probably due to the traction control keeping it from burning out.. I need a tranny though. How much do you think the dealership wants for a used tranny with at least 100k miles? Just take a wild guess. I will give you a clue. If i were to add an extra $1000, I can go buy another sls/sts just like it if not newer. word of advice, dont fool with front wheel drive cars especially caddys! Caddys are already hard/expensive to work on and FWD makes it twice as hard/expensive. .
I say about 2000 should be the right cost. I know for a camaro a NEW racing Street pro trans cost 2000 and thats new...
So anything higher then that i say strip from someone else lol

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 02:54 AM
I say about 2000 should be the right cost. I know for a camaro a NEW racing Street pro trans cost 2000 and thats new...
So anything higher then that i say strip from someone else lol

wow, i never thought of that one. Im sure you can get a floorshifter on there somehow. They wont $3000+ for a tranny with 100k. I looked on ebay and a guy has one for $500 shipped with year warranty and only 53k miles. I saw a 97 parked at walmart for only 5000, so basically they want to charge me for another 95. I am thinking about buying the 97 since its almost exactly like my 95 except the interior.

I took a look on ebay for you and all of the 9c1s on there now are pieces of crap! Maybe there will be better ones around income tax time.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 02:57 AM
wow, i never thought of that one. Im sure you can get a floorshifter on there somehow. They wont $3000+ for a tranny with 100k. I looked on ebay and a guy has one for $500 shipped with year warranty and only 53k miles. I saw a 97 parked at walmart for only 5000, so basically they want to charge me for another 95. I am thinking about buying the 97 since its almost exactly like my 95 except the interior.

I took a look on ebay for you and all of the 9c1s on there now are pieces of crap! Maybe there will be better ones around income tax time.
Oh yeah everything from a dealer is more. just look online for it and see what you can find

Yeah i looked and found nothing good. I look on craigslist most of the time. Just looked in arizona/oregon and gonna look in sac town/bay area.
why cant i find my baby!!! ill settle for a 305 and just fix it up for looks.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 03:00 AM
Oh yeah everything from a dealer is more. just look online for it and see what you can find

Yeah i looked and found nothing good. I look on craigslist most of the time. Just looked in arizona/oregon and gonna look in sac town/bay area.
why cant i find my baby!!! ill settle for a 305 and just fix it up for looks.

I am going to oklahoma again tomorrow. i will ask around and see if they are still trying to get rid of their old police cars. I may pick up me an extra one or two if the price is right.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 03:02 AM
I am going to oklahoma again tomorrow. i will ask around and see if they are still trying to get rid of their old police cars. I may pick up me an extra one or two if the price is right.

damn you baller, why not just get an impala?
I might get an immaculate impala ss 1996 once i have myself a nice fixed up caprice. But for now i need a car i fixed up with my money and my tlc

silicon212
10-10-2007, 03:06 AM
damn you baller, why not just get an impala?
I might get an immaculate impala ss 1996 once i have myself a nice fixed up caprice. But for now i need a car i fixed up with my money and my tlc

You won't touch a real Impala SS for anything near what you want to pay for a Caprice. Even though those cars are 11-13 years old now, they're still bringing up over $10k.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 03:11 AM
You won't touch a real Impala SS for anything near what you want to pay for a Caprice. Even though those cars are 11-13 years old now, they're still bringing up over $10k.
Oh yeah i know i'm going to invest about 10000-15000 into whatever caprice i get.

then save up 10-15k for a REAL impala. i seen one for sale but it was 30k. it had twin turbo among other things. Boy oh boy that was a nice looking one.
But you can still get lucky and find an impala for 7500+

SEVILLEMAN601
10-10-2007, 09:10 AM
Oh yeah i know i'm going to invest about 10000-15000 into whatever caprice i get.

then save up 10-15k for a REAL impala. i seen one for sale but it was 30k. it had twin turbo among other things. Boy oh boy that was a nice looking one.
But you can still get lucky and find an impala for 7500+

I was going to buy an impala, but then I thought about it. I would be paying an extra $5k+ just for a name. That has to be one of chevy's most popular cars since people are still willing to pay around $10k for a 96 model. I'll stick to my caprice since the 9c1 is basically the same as the impala. I want to put an impala kit on it, but I still want everybody to know its a caprice. I dont want a im-itation-pala lol.

IwantAcaprice
10-10-2007, 01:35 PM
I was going to buy an impala, but then I thought about it. I would be paying an extra $5k+ just for a name. That has to be one of chevy's most popular cars since people are still willing to pay around $10k for a 96 model. I'll stick to my caprice since the 9c1 is basically the same as the impala. I want to put an impala kit on it, but I still want everybody to know its a caprice. I dont want a im-itation-pala lol.

Put the impala kit and get the side decal that says caprice SS. Ive seen it and it looks nice.

beat88ls
10-11-2007, 12:33 AM
Go to ebay and search these numbers

290169015861

190160682736

250172715308


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=RJ%27s+caprice

IwantAcaprice
10-11-2007, 05:42 AM
They are far away from me, the shipping would probably be 1g

SEVILLEMAN601
10-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Put the impala kit and get the side decal that says caprice SS. Ive seen it and it looks nice.

that is exactly what I want to do. I want to get impala bumpers and the rear spoiler, then get some of the caprice ss decals on ebay. Does anyone know if I can get the bumpers bondoed to look like the impala's? 2 bumpers and the spoiler are $200 on ebay. The bumpers they have on there just slide over your existing bumper though. Has anyone used one of those before?

SEVILLEMAN601
10-11-2007, 12:04 PM
They are far away from me, the shipping would probably be 1g It would be way cheaper to ride the bus to pick it up and drive it back. Even though I went 3000 miles when I first bought mine, it still didn't cost anywhere close to $1000 (including replacing the radiator) unless you count shopping as an expense lol. I'd say it took me about $300 in gas, less than $200 for radiator, and about 30 hours worth of driving and a 30 hour bus ride... phew.

IwantAcaprice
10-11-2007, 12:35 PM
It would be way cheaper to ride the bus to pick it up and drive it back. Even though I went 3000 miles when I first bought mine, it still didn't cost anywhere close to $1000 (including replacing the radiator) unless you count shopping as an expense lol. I'd say it took me about $300 in gas, less than $200 for radiator, and about 30 hours worth of driving and a 30 hour bus ride... phew.

I might look into that. I'm looking at camaro z28's now. went to an auction today and found crap for cars.

beat88ls
10-11-2007, 11:58 PM
They are far away from me, the shipping would probably be 1g

so... youre willing to buy a piece of shit for 1300 then are willing to put 2000+ into it to make it nice, but youre not willing to buy a decent car that STILL needs work because it will cost to have it shipped?


EDIT: york, penn to Inglewood, California est shipping $560.00

IwantAcaprice
10-12-2007, 12:04 AM
so... youre willing to buy a piece of shit for 1300 then are willing to put 2000+ into it to make it nice, but youre not willing to buy a decent car that STILL needs work because it will cost to have it shipped?

When working on a project, you can take time and fix it up as YOU see fit in whatever time length YOU see fit.
Meaning i can spend the 2-3g's whenever i want, make it look great and make people question what year it is.

SEVILLEMAN601
10-13-2007, 05:53 PM
When working on a project, you can take time and fix it up as YOU see fit in whatever time length YOU see fit.
Meaning i can spend the 2-3g's whenever i want, make it look great and make people question what year it is.

exactly. spend it the way u want. I like LT1 9c1 caprices better than impalas... I think regular caprices are pieces of crap... Thats just the way I think. I have spent a nice amount on my car and still not done with it, but that's what I wanted, so thats what I bought.

IwantAcaprice
10-13-2007, 06:21 PM
exactly. spend it the way u want. I like LT1 9c1 caprices better than impalas... I think regular caprices are pieces of crap... Thats just the way I think. I have spent a nice amount on my car and still not done with it, but that's what I wanted, so thats what I bought.

I'm still looking for a 94-96 (would prefer 95) 9c1 in the range of 2-3gs. i may call the guy and see if he will lower the grey one i showed in the other threead to 1800 or so. I want it bad!

SEVILLEMAN601
10-14-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm still looking for a 94-96 (would prefer 95) 9c1 in the range of 2-3gs. i may call the guy and see if he will lower the grey one i showed in the other threead to 1800 or so. I want it bad!

yea, 95 and 96 are exactly the same from what I know although the only difference i notice on the outside that makes them different from a 94 is the rounded rear quarter windows (think thats what they are called). No need to pay extra for a 96 when they are the same as a 95 right? :grinyes: I just hit up pull-a-part today. Every time I go, the caprices are already picked over. All I was able to savage were 2 seat levers, window switches, and a windshield wiper motor lol. Couldn't complain for 5 bucks though haha

IwantAcaprice
10-14-2007, 01:59 AM
yea, 95 and 96 are exactly the same from what I know although the only difference i notice on the outside that makes them different from a 94 is the rounded rear quarter windows (think thats what they are called). No need to pay extra for a 96 when they are the same as a 95 right? :grinyes: I just hit up pull-a-part today. Every time I go, the caprices are already picked over. All I was able to savage were 2 seat levers, window switches, and a windshield wiper motor lol. Couldn't complain for 5 bucks though haha

lol. i got a few part places like that out here. The other difference from the 94 and 95-96 are the mirrors on the sie mirrors. the ones that sit closer to the windshield look better then the ones that are like RIGHT on the door window seal lol
Anyone know the price of the exhaust that has the mufflers coming out from behind the tires? those always look beastly

518Caprice91
10-18-2007, 09:30 PM
Well, while racing a 94 Beretta my 91 305 (not the C91 package) was clocked at over 120. Eventually the gov kicked in though. Beretta turned off (the hell kind of safety feature is that?) at 110.

silicon212
10-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Well, while racing a 94 Beretta my 91 305 (not the C91 package) was clocked at over 120. Eventually the gov kicked in though. Beretta turned off (the hell kind of safety feature is that?) at 110.

Remember the governor cutoff speeds are there to keep the tires from exploding, and for no other reason.

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