Canister Mufflers
Plasticmodeler702
09-27-2007, 10:35 PM
How do you guys make the HKS style mufflers look so perfect!!???? I have read the how to's and I want to make it out of aluminum...not styrene it looks much more real outa metal tubing. My questions are, how do you cut it so its perfect looking and still round? How do you make them look so real, I am talking about the gab between the big part and then the little part, what is that filled with? Its confusing but I mean, the easy way is taking a big piece of tubing and sliding a smaller piece in the middle, but that isn't supper accurate, you guys use like way big tubing then way small tubing, what is keeping that small tubing centered? Thank you for any and all help
willimo
09-27-2007, 10:38 PM
I use a mitre box and a small hobby saw to cut my tubing straight, and if you cut lightly and carefully, it will not crush the tubing.
I also use 3-4 diameters of tubing. The largest for the canister body, the smallest for the actual tip, and the middle one or two to center the smallest inside the largest.
I also use 3-4 diameters of tubing. The largest for the canister body, the smallest for the actual tip, and the middle one or two to center the smallest inside the largest.
Plasticmodeler702
09-27-2007, 10:47 PM
Thank you soo much!! What sizes do you use?
willimo
09-27-2007, 11:51 PM
Thank you soo much!! What sizes do you use?
I eyeball it. I just get a bunch of diameters at the store, bring them home, and go from there. The largest in the following tutorial is 5/32 OD, telescoping down from there (1/8 OD, and 3/32 OD).
To make an exhaust similar to the one on my Honda Fit, you can use 3 diameters of tubing, like mentioned above. The smallest tubing in the Fit's case is brass, not aluminum, to match the orange on the car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister1.jpg
The materials you need are shown here. The tubing, a mitre box, a saw, super glue, hobby knife, and some polishing pads to finish the piece.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister2.jpg
The first thing I do is mark the smallest diameter about 3" scale down from one end. You can eyeball this part, too, if you wish. This will be the exhaust tip. I then put a drop of glue on the side of the mark AWAY from the tip, and usually put it 1-2mm away from the mark. I then slide the next size up of telescoping tubing over the smallest, and as I approach the glue and the mark, I twist the tubes in opposite directions to spread the glue and ensure a better bond. I slide the tube only to the mark I made earlier (or just past it, to hide the mark).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister3.jpg
I like to chamfer the largest diameter tubing on the inside, to replicate the look of the metal skin wrapped around the disk that makes the end of the muffler. I do this by running my hobby knife's blade around the inside of the tubing, and removing just a sliver of metal from the inside edge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister4.jpg
I then glue the largest tubing over the middle sized tubing, just as I did the middle over the smallest, but pushing the largest to the end of the middle. This builds up the layers of the tubing, and gives more depth and greater... erm... detail to the part.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister5.jpg
You can repeat this step to get an even bigger canister with a relatively smaller tip. Don't chamfer the two middle sizes, just the outer one. I then make my first and only cut with the mitre box. I place the whole assembly in a snug groove in my mitre box and cut about a scale foot off. The layers of tubing strengthen them and keep them from crushing, but I still use light even strokes to slowly cut through the soft aluminum.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister6.jpg
The result is a fairly convincing muffler. Chamfer the smallest diameter tube in the tip, and put a touch of flat black paint on the inside, and you will hide the overscale thickness of the tube. You can detail this up with carbon fiber decals, rivets, more layers, whatever, to get the effect you want. You can even bend the smallest tube slash cut it for different styles.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister7.jpg
I eyeball it. I just get a bunch of diameters at the store, bring them home, and go from there. The largest in the following tutorial is 5/32 OD, telescoping down from there (1/8 OD, and 3/32 OD).
To make an exhaust similar to the one on my Honda Fit, you can use 3 diameters of tubing, like mentioned above. The smallest tubing in the Fit's case is brass, not aluminum, to match the orange on the car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister1.jpg
The materials you need are shown here. The tubing, a mitre box, a saw, super glue, hobby knife, and some polishing pads to finish the piece.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister2.jpg
The first thing I do is mark the smallest diameter about 3" scale down from one end. You can eyeball this part, too, if you wish. This will be the exhaust tip. I then put a drop of glue on the side of the mark AWAY from the tip, and usually put it 1-2mm away from the mark. I then slide the next size up of telescoping tubing over the smallest, and as I approach the glue and the mark, I twist the tubes in opposite directions to spread the glue and ensure a better bond. I slide the tube only to the mark I made earlier (or just past it, to hide the mark).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister3.jpg
I like to chamfer the largest diameter tubing on the inside, to replicate the look of the metal skin wrapped around the disk that makes the end of the muffler. I do this by running my hobby knife's blade around the inside of the tubing, and removing just a sliver of metal from the inside edge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister4.jpg
I then glue the largest tubing over the middle sized tubing, just as I did the middle over the smallest, but pushing the largest to the end of the middle. This builds up the layers of the tubing, and gives more depth and greater... erm... detail to the part.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister5.jpg
You can repeat this step to get an even bigger canister with a relatively smaller tip. Don't chamfer the two middle sizes, just the outer one. I then make my first and only cut with the mitre box. I place the whole assembly in a snug groove in my mitre box and cut about a scale foot off. The layers of tubing strengthen them and keep them from crushing, but I still use light even strokes to slowly cut through the soft aluminum.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister6.jpg
The result is a fairly convincing muffler. Chamfer the smallest diameter tube in the tip, and put a touch of flat black paint on the inside, and you will hide the overscale thickness of the tube. You can detail this up with carbon fiber decals, rivets, more layers, whatever, to get the effect you want. You can even bend the smallest tube slash cut it for different styles.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Canister7.jpg
rsxse240
09-28-2007, 10:09 AM
this same method works well for making catch cans, in line fuel filters (for larger scale models of course), glass pack mufflers, soda/beer cans, heck, anything round if you think about it.
I like to use tubing for tail lights, dash board trim, fender vents, what ever.
I like to use tubing for tail lights, dash board trim, fender vents, what ever.
Plasticmodeler702
09-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Thank You!!! That helps soo much! I appreciate it!
mikemechanic
09-28-2007, 10:39 PM
dingmyride
09-28-2007, 11:38 PM
Hey mikemechanic,
now that looks cool, where can i get them and how much! will need more than one though.
Thanks.
now that looks cool, where can i get them and how much! will need more than one though.
Thanks.
mikemechanic
09-29-2007, 11:11 AM
Hey mikemechanic,
now that looks cool, where can i get them and how much! will need more than one though.
Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I made these up for a project I am working on, basically a universal tuner muffler scaled down to 1/24 scale from measurements of an Apexi style muffler. I was planning on putting them in the classified section in the next week or so and on Ebay as well. I just figured since this thread came up I'd throw a picture of my part. You can PM me for details if you like.
Mike
now that looks cool, where can i get them and how much! will need more than one though.
Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I made these up for a project I am working on, basically a universal tuner muffler scaled down to 1/24 scale from measurements of an Apexi style muffler. I was planning on putting them in the classified section in the next week or so and on Ebay as well. I just figured since this thread came up I'd throw a picture of my part. You can PM me for details if you like.
Mike
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