69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

hi everyone ,ive had a few requests for tutorials on how i draw so i thought i would give it a go ,please be patient this is my first time lol :eek: ,its a 69 camaro and i hope to take you from beggining to end if you have any questions feel free to ask:PS this is how i feel comfortable drawing it may or may not be correct or the best way for you but it works for me ,im just trying to help IF POSSIBLE

the reference picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial1.jpg



step 1 outline of car:first ill draw the ouline in a hb,sometimes i wont fit it in on the page the first time or i damage the paper in some way with my eraser etc when this happens i have to retrace the original freehand onto a new A3 sheet :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial2.jpg

step 2 rim and tyres :here is the rim ,basically the way i draw is to imitate the photo the best i can with reflections & colour etc -this is the best advice i can give to learn how reflections etc work,look at the real thing :) and copy it .
Im using all prisma color pencils+some gouache ,for this rim i used 20,30,70% greys obviously the higher the number the darker the grade ,to imitate the chrome ive also thrown in some aqua blue ,as i go along i smooth it out with the colorless blender or some white (2 of the best shading tools EVER)
For the tires its a combination of straight black 70% and 30% grey for the tread and gouache (white) for the tread outline ,i did it first in this instance for the purpose of this tute and to show how cool it looks once done,normally gouache should be done last IMO as you will only smudge it and wear it off,back to the tires ill again mimick reflections or colour tones etc ,as best as the reference willl allow if its too hard to see go with the flow lol ,repeat the same process for the rear wheel aswell

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial3.jpg

step 3: colour on the car: after ive done the wheels and the shadow under the car which is basically a mixture of black,70%grey and 30% grey all blended together with the blender afterwards ,ill then move onto the cars body color,starting with the front fender i generally use the main colour in this case blue ,some white 20%grey and the blender ,again its no secret ill copy the shadows and tones the best i can from the reference pic ,dark where needed ,light where needed etc ill build up slowly with the colour,its not rocket science just alot of practice:banghead: if you feel like it you can ad in the little details such as badges and stuff such as i have with this one .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial4.jpg

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[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdate1.jpg

here the latest progress : more info next page

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdateagain1-1.jpg

wow wnderful man looking forward to the finish product

NICE! You CAN draw other stuff besides Holdens! :) Way to go with the American muscle! This is turning out really good.

The tutorial is very helpful too. You're explaining it well.

B

Great start on the tutorial. Thanks for sharing a peek into your technique and style.
There is lots of good stuff that I can try with on future toon designs.

ha ha B -lol your right ive been stuck on holdens for ages ,its hard because drawing holdens this year have been $$$upporting me so i have to be very greatful for that ,but i love drawing other cars aswell lol ,glad you can understand the tutorial ,

blip and dx king -thanks for the encouragemnt i hope it helps peeps ,im happy to share my techniques no point hiding them id rather help out :)

PS :ID LOVE TO OWN A 69 CAMARO sketchesofb !!!!!!

Wow, this is really a great tutorial. very amazing work! how do you get your outlines so perfect?

PS : Heres what the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated ;)

this is more WIP than a tutorial...
I mean, me being my usual blunt self, the short version of what you're saying is:
draw what you see.
:wink:

the only difference is you're describing how you are mixing colours but that is subject specific and well, changes depending on what you're doing.

Nice work by the way.

hi nicecar lots of practice and more practice ,alot of the time i still end up runnning out of room on the page lol, i like to challenge myself from time to time and draw with straight ink and see how i go with my proportions and elipses,obviously if you make an error theres no erasing it out ,that might be something else to try for yourselfs,if you like i can post my latest ink sketch im doing now

drunken monkey-this is an insight into my technique ive shared my mixing technique ,how i gouache on the tyres,the way i get good reflections and what grade colours to use in specific areas eg on the rims ,you may see it as a WIP ,but ive given away quite a few helpful tips and personal insight that beginners wouldnt know about ,like i say its my first time doing this if theres anything you feel i could ad or would like to know please let me know :wink:

thanks for looking

Don't take it the wrong way; just trying to point out that unless someone is painting the same using the same paint, it won't be much use.
You're kinda showing people what you did; that's not the same as giving a tutorial.
You can't really teach someone to paint.
I say this because when you're trying to copy an image, what you want on your paper is what is there in that image. The trick is being able to mix the correct colours. That in itself requires that you have a good eye for colour and know how to mix to get that colour and it is those two things that can't be taught, especially the latter relies heavily on the former.

So, in my opinion (based on my part-time tutoring at University) when I say:
you can't teach someone to paint,

it is because:
you can't teach people to see
and
you can't teach people to mix if they can't see

Make more sense?

When I did my painting workshops, I could only help by refering to what they were doing. They can't look at my paintings to learn how to do theirs.

i see your point and no offence taken,its actually pencil shading not painting that im doing ,im more hoping to share some of the things i use to define certain features and what colours i use for specific areas ,little things with the goauche for instance to bring out the tread design or the use of grey on the tyres instead of straight black and to leave certain areas white to give more reflection and stuff these are the points im trying to get across,obviously people with more experience and ability will know all these things already ,if i can help just one person with any of this then its cool by me:grinno: im still learning everyday myself

cheers dom:)

the only difference is you're describing how you are mixing colours but that is subject specific and well, changes depending on what you're doing.



This forum is subject specific in that its all automotive related. Using warm/cool greys on the rims/chrome is applicable to all automotive art as well as rexin's explanation of reflections. Sure the style of the rim will be different between a Camaro and a Ferrari, but the concept of color blending remains the same. There are quite a few forum members who use Pencil Colors who will find this very helpful.

B

You've inspired me to draw a '69 camaro, well at least there is one two houses down from me. They seem very common around here.:icon16:

This forum is subject specific in that its all automotive related. Using warm/cool greys on the rims/chrome is applicable to all automotive art as well as rexin's explanation of reflections. Sure the style of the rim will be different between a Camaro and a Ferrari, but the concept of color blending remains the same. There are quite a few forum members who use Pencil Colors who will find this very helpful.

B

my other point is, when referencing a phtoto, what you do is determined by the photo.
As the original poster more or less said, he is copying the image.
He's telling us exactly what he's doing but that isn't the same as giving a tutorial. I mean, yes he has shown us how he did these wheels but ultimately, he's done what's in the photo and beyond the way he got his colours and how he mixes them, there's not a lot a viewer can apply to their drawing because:
light will be different
shapes will be different
surroundings and hence reflections will be different, car will be different and hence differenty colours will be present.
At the end of the day, whether or not it's a car, when you're working from a source image, there's not a lot a bystander can learn by watching.
The opposite is also true, drawing is drawing and everything you learn from drawing can be used to help you draw cars.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure a lot of us can do this by eye. That is what makes showing some people what they should be doing so difficult.
I for one can't quite comprehend how, when something is right in front of you, some people can't tell when what they've drawn is well, for lack of a better term, wrong.

Of course, it could just be that I am crap tutor.

it helped me a bit, i never thought of using grey to shade a color, i just have been using black and making my own grey, then i saw thats what you did and i happened to have a 20% and 50% grey and i tried it in the ferrari i just did, expecially for the white part thats all just the grey its alot smoother, so if its not the color mixing that you can teach its techniques

I have to also say, colour mixing has always been something natural to me. It's probably the single most important natural skill I have that helps me paint. Probably the second most important skill I have is a good eye for tone and I have to say, it surprises me when you say you never thought of using grey before.

I should say though, I am painter and don't use colour pencils much so what I say could be down to me not knowing exactly the qualities and limitations of the medium that you are using.
incidentally has anyone here ever had a proper "lesson" regarding colours and tones? Come to think of it, is anyone here art school trained (or similar) or are you all , and please excuse the phrase, "hobbyists"?

i didnt expect to reinvent the wheel by doing this lol ,if its considered a WIP or tutorial all i can hope is people will take something away from it even if its just enjoyment seeing the drawing come together,ive learnt alot from artists on here,foose,etc ,to have someone of sketches of b and MYCOROLLAS talent and skill comment in here and say they gained something is a huge compliment as i really respect their work:) anyway ill continue on with it and go from there i just have to stock up on supplies :) thanks again ....

PS :as i stated up top people just wanted to know how my drawings come together ,i did also state up top this is how i draw and how i feel comfortable im not trying to push my techniques on others but again if they get something out of my style then im happy for them .

DRUNKEN MONKEY -im self taught ,and have been selling my stuff for a while now ,but it got pretty serious for me this year if you must know,guess im doing something right lol !!!

...like i said before, don't get me wrong.
I am not criticising what you're doing or anything; just expressing my view of things in light of your choice of usig the term "tutorial". I am a firm believer that there are some things that you can only learn by doing with this being one of them.
Y'know, showing someone how you do something isn't the same as teaching.
Watching someone do something isn't the same as learning.

fair enough ,i did also state this was my first time doing this type of thing,i dont claim to be a teacher far from it infact lol ....

I cant believe I came to the party so late. But any way. Smokin stuff. That wheel looks damn tasty. I saved those pics to my computer. Im a real big fan of chrome and reflection technique. this is awesome! thanx

thanks GB for your feedback , just a small update ,worked on the body a bit more doing the door and side mirror ,i used some light grey on the upper portion of the door just like the fender and some dark grey on the lower portion of the door near the rocker to create some tone and shadow,the side mirror is basically the same way you draw rims dark greys ,light greys and some light blue


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdate1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdate2.jpg

those are some really nice colours.
As I mentioned earlier, I don't really have much experience with using pencil form mediums so I have no clue as to how these work.

Can you do some swatches of colour to show the fisnish quality,typical coverage and how much work you need to get even coverage?
(i.e is is powdery/flat/waxy/soft etc)
It'd also be good to see how you do the blending between different colours/tones at different stages.

The only coloured pencils I have used are water colour ones.

i use prisma colors ,they are flat and slightly waxy but lay down really smooth ,they look even smoother when using the colourless blender or some white ,the only down side to them is they crumble easily and dont like being sharpened in a sharpener ,im gonna have to start using a blade to sharpen them i think as i have a heavy hand ,

with the coverage if im doing the dark areas ill generally go over the area twice lightly building up more each time then the third time ill go over it really hard to get that smooth deep paint job look ,with the light areas ill go over them once really lightly and depending on how light the area is ill either go over it with the blender and or the white ,the white really helps to get that sun hitting the car effect that you get on the upper side of the car eg near door handles and side mirrors and top of fenders :)

just a side not:the blender is awsome the only thing i find is when using it to do cars it may sometimes leave a grainy look due to the paper or not getting enough coverage over it ,i either go over it agian with the main colour in this case the blue or the white as it helps bring back the smooth paint job look ,if need be then ill even go back over it with the blender AGAIN

Man, as soon as i get some money, i think im gonna order some prismas.

Just a tip for your tutorial, Not many people here know what blending is, so you could give them a few tips whilst doing this tutorial.

-Chris-

Have also just found something.
In the UK, they couldn't use the Prismacolor name so for the guys in the UK, look for KarismaColor instead. All the colour codes should be the same.

By the way, I've been looking at the Prismacolor site and on their products pages came across this (http://www.prismacolor.com/sanford/consumer/prismacolor/product/category.jhtml?cat=SNPRCat100001)

which ones do you guys use?

i use prisma colors ,they are flat and slightly waxy but lay down really smooth ,they look even smoother when using the colourless blender or some white ,the only down side to them is they crumble easily and dont like being sharpened in a sharpener ,im gonna have to start using a blade to sharpen them i think as i have a heavy hand ,

with the coverage if im doing the dark areas ill generally go over the area twice lightly building up more each time then the third time ill go over it really hard to get that smooth deep paint job look ,with the light areas ill go over them once really lightly and depending on how light the area is ill either go over it with the blender and or the white ,the white really helps to get that sun hitting the car effect that you get on the upper side of the car eg near door handles and side mirrors and top of fenders :)

just a side not:the blender is awsome the only thing i find is when using it to do cars it may sometimes leave a grainy look due to the paper or not getting enough coverage over it ,i either go over it agian with the main colour in this case the blue or the white as it helps bring back the smooth paint job look ,if need be then ill even go back over it with the blender AGAIN

I use the crayola black for my black its hard so it gets and stays really sharp for the detailing and still blends good with the prismacolors like the white, maybe give that a shot too :)

Have also just found something.
In the UK, they couldn't use the Prismacolor name so for the guys in the UK, look for KarismaColor instead. All the colour codes should be the same.

By the way, I've been looking at the Prismacolor site and on their products pages came across this (http://www.prismacolor.com/sanford/consumer/prismacolor/product/category.jhtml?cat=SNPRCat100001)

which ones do you guys use?

i use the premire, i have some of the verithin but i dont like them, there really hard, but like it says its good for lines and edges, not for blending or shading though

nice car and DK-ill have a think about the best way i can show you some blending techniques and coverage etc and post it up :) not sure if ther camera will pick it up that good ,maybe the scanner might be a better option

mycorollas-will definately buy a black crayola ,im sick and tired of using 3 black prismas per drawing lol ,they disintegrate right before my eyes :)
thanks for the tip

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdateagain1-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdateagain2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camaroupdateagain3.jpg

heres the latest update ,ive done the rear wheel and more of the body colour aswell at the rear of car ,roof and the lower part on the front ,its slowly starting to look like a car

for the interior i used a combination of black darkgrey light grey and tan for the seats and blended them together i havent done the windows yet either,ill end up tweaking things here and there as i go along thanks for looking

wow almost finish but I really love this car

work has been progressing really slow on this one ,ive managed to do a bit of the hood and the front windscreen and interior ,using a combination of light and dark greys and some black ,to give off a slight reflection in the glass ive grabbed some gouache on the tip of my finger and smudged it in really lightly


***gouache is really good as if your not happy with what you have done its fairly easy to remove it. thanks for looking


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarolatest002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarolatest001.jpg

wow

you're doin very well too!

love the soft hand

thanks stranger :) youver been MIA for ages lol look forward to seeing your work again

As always, you just make magic with the reflections in the body work.

Have you ever tried reflecting the image of another car on the side of the main image.
I think you really have the skills for that. (I know I don't.)
Something like the work of Michael Irvine:
http://www.michaelirvine.com/automotivefineart/index.htm

http://www.michaelirvine.com/automotivefineart/images/Thoroughbreds-Clrprint.jpg

thanks blip for the nice words :)

that is an awseome idea and that drawing looks friggin sweet he is brilliant !!!!!!

not sure whether i can do it but would definately like to give it a go :)

Great, can't wait to see your try at the style, even if it has to be a couple of Holdens
in the layout.:rolleyes: :grinyes:

And it's my favorite time of the year to watch the SPEED channel here, they are finally
show races from the 2007 V8 Supercar series so I can watch the Fords battle with the Holdens.
Can't wait for the Bathurst 1000 broadcast--that's my favorite race each year.

(Okay, I know its over, but don't spoil the ending for me.)

and the winner was !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha kidding i wont ruin it for you lol,its an awesome track isnt it .....

dont worry youll only be seeing american muscle from me for a while i think hint hint :)

well here it is finally ALMOST finished i just want to color the grille bit darker

thanks for looking

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarofinished.jpg

WOW...this is cool....love the CP work.....great job!

ummm I think you might have messed that grill up a little.

yer it needs a tidy up as i mentioned up above will post it up again when its finished

That is an awesome toot. Great to see how you work. I love the texture of Colored Pencil on stout paper. Great car too.

The reflections look so clean but the rims and grille look a little rough

the blue in the windows also look a little funny, i cant really tell if that's tint or a patch of blue sky behind the car

other than those two things i absolutley love this piece
and even if it isnt technicly a tutorial i really appreciate you taking the extra time to demonstrate how you do things
i've found it very helpfull thanks!

thank grantrl78