alright so i got my eclipse

iight i got my car its a 1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS. im tryin to do as much research as i can to get the most power out of my car as possible. I already got a cold air intake put in and im waiting on a JDM racing exhaust that i ordered to come in on friday. I want to kno wat should be the next thing i do. I have an idea but im not sure. And i also wanna kno wat the best turbo would b to get for my car. help me out here im jus lookin for ideas and opinions iight.

Welcome to the forum

Sounds like your off to a good start. You might want to check out 2gnt, they have a lot more info on there then this forum does regarding the 420a motor. I suggest you become more familiar with the car before trying to put a turbo on it. Might want to check out hahnracecraft.com also.

Do a complete tune up on the car before anything else. Plugs, wires, fuel filter, make sure you have no leaks, and all that good shit. A lightweight under-drive pulley is a good upgrade for the 420a, as well as a bored throttle body. Anything more than that and you'll be doing major upgrades such as port/polish on the head, valve job, cams, bigger exhaust, etc.

Welcome to the forum

Sounds like your off to a good start. You might want to check out 2gnt, they have a lot more info on there then this forum does regarding the 420a motor. I suggest you become more familiar with the car before trying to put a turbo on it. Might want to check out hahnracecraft.com also.

well yea im not gettin a turbo anytime soon it might even b a year before i do dat, i mean i joined this site to hopefully learn more about my car...anyways ill check out that site

Do a complete tune up on the car before anything else. Plugs, wires, fuel filter, make sure you have no leaks, and all that good shit. A lightweight under-drive pulley is a good upgrade for the 420a, as well as a bored throttle body. Anything more than that and you'll be doing major upgrades such as port/polish on the head, valve job, cams, bigger exhaust, etc.

dawg dat sounds like its gonna cost an ass load of money, but i was expectin dat shit, sounds good though i can look into dat though its just moneys kinda a problem right now. ive been lookin for a lightweight under-drive pulley already, ive just been lookin to c how much money i need to save up to get it c wat im sayin but yea...

Dude please drop the "dawg dat" and "c wat". Normal English is appreciated.

dawg dat sounds like its gonna cost an ass load of money, but i was expectin dat shit, sounds good though i can look into dat though its just moneys kinda a problem right now. ive been lookin for a lightweight under-drive pulley already, ive just been lookin to c how much money i need to save up to get it c wat im sayin but yea...

*edit* Never mind. eclipse said what I was going to say.

dawg dat sounds like its gonna cost an ass load of money,

Well welcome to the wonderful world of dsm's where $ is the only thing that will get you through it

Dude please drop the "dawg dat" and "c wat". Normal English is appreciated.

im lazy if u havent noticed..the quicker i type it the better even usin abreviations ok...now stick to the subject

A tune up shouldn't cost you more than ~$100, and you can get UDPs on ebay for cheap.

And no one cares that you're lazy, if you don't type so we can somewhat understand it, then you probably won't get any help. Just drop the "c wat i mean" and the "dawg" like eclipse said and you'll be fine, you don't have to type "proper" english, but at least make it so we can read it once without having to go back through 10 times like I did in your third post.

Thanks and welcome to AF.

This is true, if I cant understand what a thread starter is saying/asking I generally dont even bother trying to answer. Spending the extra 20 seconds per post to make it readable is going to go a long way in terms of the help and quality of help you are going to get.

Secondly, you should do a search before you ask a question. Many topics (including this one) have been covered many times and the regulars get tired of answering them twice a week all the time.

Now as for making power, in my honest opinion, you picked the wrong platform. Sure the 420a can be a good motor, but there is a few problems with it. For one, making any decent amount of power is going to take a lot of work and most likely a turbo. Turboing a car isnt for the faint of heart, you really gotta know what you're doing otherwise you will end up with a blown ass motor and no whip. So you do all kinds of research and piece together a decent turbo kit. Now what? After you get a good fuel setup, the turbo and everything related to it, and all the other misc bolt ons needed to make use of the turbo, you still have a FWD car which is going to be hell to try to get to hook. Not only is that going to take a lot of work, but its going to take a lot of money as well and by the time you get to the level of a slightly modded GST, you will be in a good couple thousand dollars deeper than him. The other problem I see is that if you do get that far, the 420a has an open deck block which can cause all sorts of fun problems at higher power levels. If you really want a good, fast car sell the RS and get a GST or GSX, read up, and have fun.

remember the noob treatment thread you guys

remember the noob treatment thread you guys
This is not bad treatment towards him at all. There really is no reason for the whole dat and c crap when it takes a whole 2 seconds more to type that and see...

A basic tune up is always a great help to any vehicle for performance and longevity of it's life...

alright so aparently i angered people with my laziness to type...get over it....now tell me if theres any difference in brands...people tell me this and that brand is better than this one or that one. I dont see a difference. An intake is an intake, an exhaust is an exhaust, a turbos a turbo..but what do yall think..is there some difference in gettin a certain brand for a certain part?

The other problem I see is that if you do get that far, the 420a has an open deck block which can cause all sorts of fun problems at higher power levels.

ok this is why I joined this site i was well unaware of the open deck block problem. Anyway i can do something about it so that i dont get any problems or am i better of just selling it and getting a GSX. Which was my plan at one point was to sell my car and get a turbo eclipse but i changed my mind but I see all the things i have to do just to get on its level. i was hoping i could just make modifications and live with the car I have now but I may end up going back to my original plan to sell the car. But before I make a decision on that..I still would like to know if there is any way of dealing with the open deck problem..and if different brands for certain parts means anything???

ok this is why I joined this site i was well unaware of the open deck block problem. Anyway i can do something about it so that i dont get any problems or am i better of just selling it and getting a GSX. Which was my plan at one point was to sell my car and get a turbo eclipse but i changed my mind but I see all the things i have to do just to get on its level. i was hoping i could just make modifications and live with the car I have now but I may end up going back to my original plan to sell the car. But before I make a decision on that..I still would like to know if there is any way of dealing with the open deck problem..and if different brands for certain parts means anything???


Perhaps you are better suited for a cadillac..or a buick.

An intake is an intake, an exhaust is an exhaust, a turbos a turbo..but what do yall think..is there some difference in gettin a certain brand for a certain part?

I was with you up until the turbo part. It's best to do lots of research when deciding on which one to get. Of course a 3 inch exhaust pipe is just as good as the next, and so is a metal tube with an air filter attatched. But when you get into important things like turbos, and various engine internals, if you go cheap, it just might come back to bite you in the ass. If you find a real good deal that's too good to be true, then it probably is.

As far as keeping it or selling it for a gsx it depends on what you want out of the car and how much you're willing to spend. If you want a fun reliable daily driver then keep your non turbo. If you are looking to get good quarter mile times go with the gsx. On the other hand, if you do go with a track star, you best have a reliable daily driver to carry you to the parts store, and get you around while you wait for parts. Most likely, the more mods you make the more down time the car will have. At least that's how it is with me.

If you end up keeping the RS start out with the small stuff. Intake, exhaust, and various tune up stuff. Grab a manual and do it yourself, you'll learn the most that way. While you're working and you see something you don't recognize, try and research what it is, what does. You'll be like, "hey, thats my johnson rod, which is connected to my fetzer valve which releases my headlight fluid."

Eventually you'll start to understand how everything works together and you'll hopefully realize that slapping on a turbo isn't as easy as you think. But rewarding at the end.

About the name brand differences....You get what you pay for. How's that old saying go?..."Mod cheap, mod twice".

But yea 85% of the time, cheap crap sucks. Buy good reputable brands.
for example

Alot of people on here with GS's and RS's buy a cheaper ebay intake, ebay header, ebay exhaust, and use with great results.

But when it comes to things like a tubular turbo manifold...cheap is do-do and it will crack.
When it comes to cheap off brand ebay turbos....cheap is do-do and it will blow apart.
When it comes to brakes.....cheap is do-do and you might kill yourself.
Lowering springs and coilovers? ...cheap is do-do and it will make your car suck.

Alot of people run cheaper ebay intercooler cores with good results.

It all really depends on what part it is. But I always buy name brand, thats why I'm broke but thats why my car is so skeet-skeet.

Well if you are really not into the RS, sell it and save for a GSX< GS-T, TSI, or TSI AWD. Thats your best bet, they already come turboed, and with the ALMIGHTY 4G63T ENGINE!:grinyes: well, your prolly not gunna get enough cash from your RS to get one of those, so youll have to save. The 420A motor is very reliable tho. You might wanna think about keeping it as a daily driver and saving for another. Smart move in my opinion. and im kinda late on this but Welcome To A/F

dood it seems to me if you want to turbo your 420a motor then go with this turbo kit it seems pretty good and is a good source of power.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=235&prodname=420a+Turbo+kit+95-99+Eclipse+Talon

dood it seems to me if you want to turbo your 420a motor then go with this turbo kit it seems pretty good and is a good source of power.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=235&prodname=420a+Turbo+kit+95-99+Eclipse+Talon

I wouldn't buy anything from a site that can't use proper spelling and grammar. Who knows what kinda quality their parts are if they don't even take the time to do that correctly. Dood.

alright so aparently i angered people with my laziness to type...get over it....now tell me if theres any difference in brands...people tell me this and that brand is better than this one or that one. I dont see a difference. An intake is an intake, an exhaust is an exhaust, a turbos a turbo..but what do yall think..is there some difference in gettin a certain brand for a certain part?

Just a piece of advice.... if you are looking for people to help you out, using smart ass comments like "get over it" when they make a simple request doesnt start you off very well. I wouldn't help you for a second if you said shit like that to me, when it was you asking me for help..