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LincolnGirl
09-15-2007, 11:02 PM
I recently purchased a 1991 TC. About a week after I bought it the air suspension light came on after 45 seconds of being on. Slowly but surely the drivers side rear went down, but now I'm noticing the drivers side front looks like it is going down too. My poor car leans to one side. Is this just because the rear is down? Or is there a problem with the whole drivers side? I was planning on replacing the rear drivers side bag this coming weekend but any info would be a big help!

Towncar
09-15-2007, 11:57 PM
The air springs are only in the rear, so fixing the rear will bring her back up to normal all the way around...


Do yourself a favor and replace both springs at the same time.. the other one will be going soon too.. if it's not already new :)

junk yard doggie
09-16-2007, 09:06 AM
Hello Lincolngirl

Steve is right the leaking rear bag is making your whole car lean to one side. Also those front springs were known to sag over time. Ford made a shim kit to correct this problem. When you get your rear bag fixed take some measurements all the way around the car and see if there is any serious sag present. If it's not bad I wouldn't wory about it. Let me know if you need any used components for the rear air suspension. I have a few of those parts for the early lincolns, including the spring conversion kit. [email protected]
Thanks and good luck

Mike

taillight
09-16-2007, 11:22 AM
I have done a few of the spring convertions and they seem to work better and last longer.

LincolnGirl
09-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the info. I was thinking about replacing both sides anyways. I'm pretty sure the other side isn't new since it sat for over a year till I bought it. I've had a oil change, tune up, brakes done, and a complete diagnostic done on it ... but that was before the air suspension went out on it.

Towncar
09-16-2007, 02:25 PM
Sounds like you really know how to take care of your cars :)

While this Town Car is "sunken", open the trunk, find the suspension switch on the passenger side, turn it off so that the compressor isn't trying to pump a dead bag. Turn it back on when it's repaired.

Mine's a 1996, still riding on the original springs :) You'll get lot's of good years out of your new air springs.

Bearfoot
09-16-2007, 04:37 PM
"You'll get lot's of good years out of your new air springs."

Steven, what is "lot's" and do you have a 'ballpark' figure on the cost of the springs?

Towncar
09-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Steven, what is "lot's" and do you have a 'ballpark' figure on the cost of the springs?

10~15 years, 100k +/- miles :)

Arnott sells a pair for around $170 Others are higher, and lower. Many hardcore Town Car DIY's insist on Goodyear for that softer ride.

Conversion kits are MUCH cheaper :(

bwbitt
09-16-2007, 06:27 PM
Lincoln girl:
I am Boone Doggie, I am just in the middle of a spring change.
My 1993 Lincoln TC. dropped to the ground last yr, leaving me without
a ride. I fixed the airpump, then only a short time later the whole air
suspention let me down again.

I thought about it and decided to replace the air bags with coil springs.
I bought coil springs to replace the bags with at my local parts store for
62 dollars for both springs, I installed the coil springs in about 2 or 3 hours
and Of course that solved the problem of air let down.

this past weekend a lady I know is having the same problem, she has a
1986 lincoln tc. I found coil springs for her car and autozone for $61.50
she is going to look into repairing the airpump, and or replacing the
air bags with coil springs.

you can reach me at [email protected] if you need more help.
The best to you though. I guess it is better to keep the air bags
working if you can and you can afford it, but I just wanted rid of
the air bag problem so I replaced them with the coil springs.

Later
Your friend
Boone Doggie

Jagwar
11-06-2007, 04:55 PM
I bought coil springs to replace the bags with at my local parts store for
62 dollars for both springs, I installed the coil springs in about 2 or 3 hours
and Of course that solved the problem of air let down.

Before I read this I had first gone out and found StrutMasters' and SunCore's spring conversion kits on the web, at $169 and $99 respectively.

http://www.strutmasters.com/catalog.php?cat=2
http://www.suncoreindustries.com/Product.asp?ProductID=325

After seeing you mention the "local parts store" I called my local O'Reillys Auto Parts and asked if he's got anything like this and he says, "yes, it's $168 made by StrutMasters ."

So, I'm guessing you bought what amounts to generic coil springs and they work ok? Can you name the place you got them, please?

LincolnGirl
11-06-2007, 05:21 PM
I paid $52.99 For Duralast coil springs at Autozone.

bubba4life
11-06-2007, 05:38 PM
i was wondering how does converting the air springs to regular springs in early 90's towncar change the handling of the car. mine are the original air springs on mine with 121,000 miles, i don't think thay have much life left in them.

LincolnGirl
11-06-2007, 09:27 PM
I honestly don't feel a difference, but some people say it is a more smoother ride with the air suspension.

jfp1948
02-19-2008, 08:51 PM
Feels like the air suspension system on my 90 town car just went. The warning light was on for several months. Is it safe to drive?

Towncar
02-19-2008, 11:37 PM
Feels like the air suspension system on my 90 town car just went. The warning light was on for several months. Is it safe to drive?

Why would you want to drive it with the ass end on the ground?

Anyway - the safe question;

With the springs collapsed, the rear end sits on bumpers that are NOT designed to hold the weight of the car. The bumpers flatten and tear, then the collapsed shocks take weight of the car, they get destroyed too.

Two things happened when that "check suspension" lamp lit up...
- the ear air springs began leaking.
- the air compressor began working overtime trying to hold the car up.
The result is most likely blown air springs (you knew that) and now a burnt compressor. If you read the previous posts in this thread, you'll see LincolnGirl found a solution for $53 bucks.

Kacy
03-03-2008, 03:32 AM
I replaced my airsprings with coil springs in both a 1990 TC and a 1995. I did not feel any diff in the ride. For the money I would replace with the coil springs.

danielsatur
03-15-2008, 10:39 AM
This is a very good Thread,see WWW.arnottindustries.com (http://www.arnottindustries.com). $117.00 each
for life.
CAUTION: If air suspenshion stays on for more than 10sec,pop trunk and turn off switch.
Go buy new Air bags, befor you mess up your pump.
LIFETIME WARRANTY - It's like buying parts at AUTOZONE!
TAKE CARE OF HER, and you will get a lot more miles out of her!


MCGIVER

Peter222
05-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Hi.
Anyone can help me with my Lincoln TC 1998.One month ago I find out that the rear of suspension went down equally on both sides . Even yesterday I have notice it still going down.
Thanks.

Towncar
05-30-2008, 05:43 PM
Hi.
Anyone can help me with my Lincoln TC 1998.One month ago I find out that the rear of suspension went down equally on both sides . Even yesterday I have notice it still going down.
Thanks.

Hello Peter222..

Are you seeing "check air suspension" lamp on the dash?
How far down are you going?
Is the compressor running overtime?

PS: Venting is disabled when any passenger doors are open..... in this case (and every time you exit the car) when the last door is closed the system vent's one more time to level the car... this can be viewed as "...still going down."

Peter222
06-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Thank you Towncar for your help

I have found blown fuse for the air compressor

Towncar
06-05-2008, 08:07 PM
I have found blown fuse for the air compressor

:eek7: :headshake :sly: :confused: :uhoh:
This might be a bad sign.. The fuse normally wont blow unless there's a problem. I don't have the fusebox map here with me... <thinking another component might be the cause> but take heed.. if this continues it's because of a problem with the compressor overworking.

Test the system for leaks by allowing it to inflate, then switch it OFF in the trunk.. see how long it takes to leak down. Mine <car> stays up for weeks.

danielsatur
06-06-2008, 07:39 PM
I wonder why this thread wasn't Locked too!
KCmike and I was trying to tell sck38,it was like trying to beat a dead horse!
We didn't want to hurt his feelings or wallet.

If bored,see AF -> Lincoln -> Towncar -> Main Bearings 96 lincoln towncar

MCGIVER

junk yard doggie
06-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Do the strut master directions tell you how to turn off the air suspension light? Most people don't know how to do that. I can't stand warning lights on permanently. I've fixed that for several customers now. You have to unplug the module in the trunk, behind the carpet and on off switch. I would also recommend pulling the relay for the the pump and removeing the pump entirely.

remark123
06-03-2009, 09:00 AM
Mike, the newer Townies cannot be fixed by the method you describe. The later cars utilize the ECM to turn on the light in the cluster. I know of no easy fix...:screwy:

junk yard doggie
06-03-2009, 08:45 PM
That's a bummer, I've only done that disconnect up to 1996. I guess the newer ones you would to do the old bulb removal for the annoying light.

jenilew1
11-22-2012, 09:52 PM
I was on a trip and my check air ride light came on Had not had car for more then a month bought because of low miles 79,000 on 1995 Lincoln Continental and really needed a dependable car. So, I drove the rest of the way home about 50 miles parked the car went to bed and woke up to a complete low rider all the way around I have not had the means or funds to repair so I have only driven to the local market and back but the ride is horrible bouncing everywhere I figure it's been two months now the damage caused by leaving it like this is probable extensive and to expensive for me to have repaired. So, My question is what would be the cheapest way to get the car back on the road and drivable at this point that is my ONLY concern and a plush ride matters not. Like I said my funds are very limited or it would have been repaired by now thank you for any info or advise I am a new DIY

jenilew1
11-22-2012, 10:06 PM
Hello, I have a 1995 Lincoln Continental with a complete air ride failure I need any and all information on how to resolve my problem with the least amount of cost involved as I am a new DIY and only have limited funds to work with, but tons of determination and need of my vehicle to be back on the road. If I waited for a miracle I'd be taking the bus or walking have to find solution.

All2kool
12-05-2012, 04:38 PM
I replaced my airsprings with coil springs in both a 1990 TC and a 1995. I did not feel any diff in the ride. For the money I would replace with the coil springs.

I cannot tell the difference either. For me, it was a no-brainer. I had to have a working car hours after the RAS failed as I use my car for work as a chauffeur. I was able to purchase and install the Variable Rate Coil Springs in my car port in under two hours. The car does not sag when loaded nor ride high when it's just me. Anybody indicating otherwise has not owned a LTC with the proper retrofit.

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