Afganistan 5 Day Forecast.
FlossinPrimera
09-20-2001, 10:14 PM
No notation is necessary here.
Jay!
09-20-2001, 11:24 PM
LOL :lol2:
Did anyone else get the pic of "Lake America?" I had it at work, but deleted it... Post it if you got it... :D
Did anyone else get the pic of "Lake America?" I had it at work, but deleted it... Post it if you got it... :D
AznVirus
09-20-2001, 11:51 PM
did we declare war against them? i didnt see the press conference.
ragt20
09-21-2001, 02:46 AM
I like this version.....
primera man
09-21-2001, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by ragt20
I like this version.....
:D :D :D they must be shitting themselfs by now
I like this version.....
:D :D :D they must be shitting themselfs by now
kenchan
09-21-2001, 05:11 AM
blahahahahahahaahhahaa!!!!!!!!!! :frog:
DVSNCYNIKL
09-21-2001, 07:17 AM
They sure as hell will be scared. Yeah they are good terrorists, but special ops is operating in there. They've never faced an adversary like the SEALS, GREEN BERETS, OR DELTA FORCE(if they exist, hehe).
P10DET
09-21-2001, 08:38 AM
I personally think if we get those bastards alive, we should bring them to The States covertly and phone the Mafia. We should tell the Mafia when and where we are going to dump them on the streets of NYC. :D
Hehehehehehe
Hehehehehehe
G-Forces
09-21-2001, 09:08 AM
Guys I'm going to close this thread. There are places in automotiveforums for this. I know Igor would like that too. :)
Jay!
09-21-2001, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by G-Forces
Guys I'm going to close this thread. There are places in automotiveforums for this. I know Igor would like that too. :)We'd be happy to have it in the new "Tragedy in the United States" Forum. :) Thread re-opened in its new home! :D
Guys I'm going to close this thread. There are places in automotiveforums for this. I know Igor would like that too. :)We'd be happy to have it in the new "Tragedy in the United States" Forum. :) Thread re-opened in its new home! :D
ragt20
09-21-2001, 07:18 PM
u may have read this already...if u haven't read on pretty interestin....this is from an Afghani guy livin in the US for a while....
I’ve been hearing a lot of talk about “bombing Afghanistan back to the
Stone Age.” Ron Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would
mean killing innocent people, who had nothing to do with this
atrocity, but “we’re at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What
else can we do?” Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether
we “have the belly to do what must be done.” And I thought about the
issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and
even though I’ve lived here for 35 years I’ve never lost track of what’s
going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks
from where I’m standing.
I speak as one who deeply hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. My hatred
comes from first hand experience. There is no doubt in my mind that these
people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that
something must be done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden
are not Afghanistan. They’re not even the government of Afghanistan. The
Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in
1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think
Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden,think Hitler. And when you
think “the people of Afghanistan” think “the Jews in the concentration
camps.” It’s not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this
atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would
exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out
the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country. Some say,
why don’t the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is,
they’re starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years
ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans
in Afghanistan—a country with no economy, no food. There are millions of
widows. And the Taliban has been burying these
widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the
farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons
why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.
We come now to the question of “bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone
Age”. Trouble is, that’s been done. The Soviets took care of it already.
Make the Afghans suffer? They’re already suffering. Level their houses?
Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their
hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from
medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New
bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least
get the Taliban? Not likely. In today’s Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat,
only they have the means to move around. They’d slip away and hide.
Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don’t move
too fast, they don’t even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and
dropping bombs would not really be a strike against the criminals who did
this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with
the Taliban—by raping once again the people they’ve been raping all this
time. So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with
true fear and trembling.
The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When
people speak of “having the belly to do what needs to be done” they’re
thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having
the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people.
Let’s pull our heads out of the sand. What’s actually on the table is
Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting
their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden’s hideout. It’s much bigger
than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we’d have to go
through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan
would
have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where
I’m going. We’re flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And
guess what: that’s Bin Laden’s program. That’s exactly what he wants.
That’s why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It’s all right
there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem
ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the
West, he’s got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks holocaust in those
lands, that’s a billion people with nothing left to lose, that’s even
better from Bin Laden’s point of view. He’s probably wrong, in the end the
West would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for
years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the
belly for that?
Unfortunately, Bin Laden does. Anyone else?
In Peace,
Tamim Ansary
I’ve been hearing a lot of talk about “bombing Afghanistan back to the
Stone Age.” Ron Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would
mean killing innocent people, who had nothing to do with this
atrocity, but “we’re at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What
else can we do?” Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether
we “have the belly to do what must be done.” And I thought about the
issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and
even though I’ve lived here for 35 years I’ve never lost track of what’s
going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks
from where I’m standing.
I speak as one who deeply hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. My hatred
comes from first hand experience. There is no doubt in my mind that these
people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that
something must be done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden
are not Afghanistan. They’re not even the government of Afghanistan. The
Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in
1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think
Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden,think Hitler. And when you
think “the people of Afghanistan” think “the Jews in the concentration
camps.” It’s not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this
atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would
exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out
the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country. Some say,
why don’t the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is,
they’re starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years
ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans
in Afghanistan—a country with no economy, no food. There are millions of
widows. And the Taliban has been burying these
widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the
farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons
why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.
We come now to the question of “bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone
Age”. Trouble is, that’s been done. The Soviets took care of it already.
Make the Afghans suffer? They’re already suffering. Level their houses?
Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their
hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from
medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New
bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least
get the Taliban? Not likely. In today’s Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat,
only they have the means to move around. They’d slip away and hide.
Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don’t move
too fast, they don’t even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and
dropping bombs would not really be a strike against the criminals who did
this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with
the Taliban—by raping once again the people they’ve been raping all this
time. So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with
true fear and trembling.
The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When
people speak of “having the belly to do what needs to be done” they’re
thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having
the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people.
Let’s pull our heads out of the sand. What’s actually on the table is
Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting
their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden’s hideout. It’s much bigger
than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we’d have to go
through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan
would
have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where
I’m going. We’re flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And
guess what: that’s Bin Laden’s program. That’s exactly what he wants.
That’s why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It’s all right
there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem
ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the
West, he’s got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks holocaust in those
lands, that’s a billion people with nothing left to lose, that’s even
better from Bin Laden’s point of view. He’s probably wrong, in the end the
West would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for
years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the
belly for that?
Unfortunately, Bin Laden does. Anyone else?
In Peace,
Tamim Ansary
gang$tarr
09-22-2001, 01:15 AM
ah i'm too lazy to read that, so i just read the top....
the U.S. isn't going to bomb all of Afganhistan, they're just going to bomb the taliban areas and the terrorist and military bases
the U.S. isn't going to bomb all of Afganhistan, they're just going to bomb the taliban areas and the terrorist and military bases
speediva
09-22-2001, 10:40 PM
This is not my position, but I found the idea rather interesting. These words were given to me at work by a customer, so pleeeease don't get mad at me for just making the comment available for all to read:
"I think that we should nuke the $#@^%&*, turn the whole middle east into a giant sheet of glass, and build lots of resorts for us to R&R on their encapsulated bodies."
So it is kinda morbid, but the fact that this guy actually thought it out enough to the point of sand forming glass at high temperatures is kinda interesting...
"I think that we should nuke the $#@^%&*, turn the whole middle east into a giant sheet of glass, and build lots of resorts for us to R&R on their encapsulated bodies."
So it is kinda morbid, but the fact that this guy actually thought it out enough to the point of sand forming glass at high temperatures is kinda interesting...
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