Crank shaft pully
firestarter69
09-10-2007, 04:40 AM
After my power steering belt broke it took out the alt. belt. I went to replace it and noticed that the Crank shaft pully is now against the frame and doesnt move. WTF does this mean?
david-b
09-10-2007, 09:32 AM
That's nearly impossible to happen. Is it a new pulley? Ya they sit close, but there's about 1/2 inch inbetween the 2.
flyguy123
09-10-2007, 11:31 AM
Is it fully seated on the shaft? Maybe broken motor mount?
david-b
09-10-2007, 11:38 AM
Can you post up a pic showing this? Like from a good angle showing everything. Thanks.
SilvrEclipse
09-10-2007, 11:39 AM
Im guessing a motor mount broke. This should be very obvious since the motor would be leaning bad
Thor06
09-10-2007, 11:49 AM
Yeah dude, that sounds crazy as hell. A picture would be great, this is pretty confusing to me. Pulley bent maybe? I'm not sure if missing a mount will allow it to lean that far. At the same time, how would one bend a fuckin underdrive pulley? :confused:
david-b
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
Those things are impossible to bend. You ever try? They're solid metal.
Even if it was off-centered, it still couldn't hit the frame.
If the bolt going down the center to the crank was off/loose, you would hear and have busted the belts long time ago. Those are nearly impossible to just come loose and pop off. I had to crow bad mine off. Wasn't easy. And that was already it was off a couple years back for replacing. If it was loose and rubbing, you would see wear on the frame itself where it's against. Is there damage there?
Even with a broken motor mount, I don't think the pulley could touch the frame. If you lost the front mount (pulley side), the tranny mount will still be holding the engine straight. If any of the rollers broke, the engine still wouldn't move. Ya there'd be more give in the motor, but not enough to move it over those couple inches.
This isn't making sense to me. We really need pics here.
Even if it was off-centered, it still couldn't hit the frame.
If the bolt going down the center to the crank was off/loose, you would hear and have busted the belts long time ago. Those are nearly impossible to just come loose and pop off. I had to crow bad mine off. Wasn't easy. And that was already it was off a couple years back for replacing. If it was loose and rubbing, you would see wear on the frame itself where it's against. Is there damage there?
Even with a broken motor mount, I don't think the pulley could touch the frame. If you lost the front mount (pulley side), the tranny mount will still be holding the engine straight. If any of the rollers broke, the engine still wouldn't move. Ya there'd be more give in the motor, but not enough to move it over those couple inches.
This isn't making sense to me. We really need pics here.
defiancy
09-10-2007, 02:13 PM
No way a broken motor mount would cause the engine to move significantly, muchless bend a pulley.
I don't see how this is possible, and without pictures it's hard to tell what the guy is talking about.
I don't see how this is possible, and without pictures it's hard to tell what the guy is talking about.
gthompson97
09-11-2007, 11:19 PM
I'm guessing that the crank bolt has been gone for awhile and the pulley spun on the crank long enough it loosened it up and worked itself off. You need to put the pulley back on and re-install the bolt that goes down the center of the crank. Then get new belts and drive your car.
EDIT: Are we talking about a turbo or non-turbo, and what year?
EDIT: Are we talking about a turbo or non-turbo, and what year?
SilvrEclipse
09-11-2007, 11:57 PM
I assumed it was the 420a
gthompson97
09-12-2007, 12:13 AM
That's what I assumed too.
firestarter69
09-27-2007, 11:22 AM
Sorry its been so long. I went to jail for the last time I was racing my car. But I'll see what I can do about posting some pics. Nothing seems broke but the pully is pushed against the frame and bearly moves. Theres no play back and forth or side to side. I'm afraid something blew inside the engine but I dont have the resources to fix this piece!!! I hate this car with a passion. I've had nothing but problems. Its not like I can trade it in either.
david-b
09-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Sorry its been so long. I went to jail for the last time I was racing my car. But I'll see what I can do about posting some pics. Nothing seems broke but the pully is pushed against the frame and bearly moves. Theres no play back and forth or side to side. I'm afraid something blew inside the engine but I dont have the resources to fix this piece!!! I hate this car with a passion. I've had nothing but problems. Its not like I can trade it in either.
Ahh, the reason why we don't race.
You didn't blow anything on the inside. The only way that the crank pulley can be pushed out and have some inside wrong would be like a broken crank shaft... but that doesn't happen.
Ahh, the reason why we don't race.
You didn't blow anything on the inside. The only way that the crank pulley can be pushed out and have some inside wrong would be like a broken crank shaft... but that doesn't happen.
Thor06
09-27-2007, 12:09 PM
Sorry its been so long. I went to jail for the last time I was racing my car. But I'll see what I can do about posting some pics. Nothing seems broke but the pully is pushed against the frame and bearly moves. Theres no play back and forth or side to side. I'm afraid something blew inside the engine but I dont have the resources to fix this piece!!! I hate this car with a passion. I've had nothing but problems. Its not like I can trade it in either.
The other reason we dont race. What the hell did you expect homie? Obviously you race a lot, I dont believe for a second that you went to jail for racing just once. Racing a car thats been abused and neglected, breaking down is just whats going to happen and yeah it sucks but its not the car's fault.
The other reason we dont race. What the hell did you expect homie? Obviously you race a lot, I dont believe for a second that you went to jail for racing just once. Racing a car thats been abused and neglected, breaking down is just whats going to happen and yeah it sucks but its not the car's fault.
firestarter69
10-13-2007, 02:22 PM
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Hope these pics help. Cause I have no idea what to do now. I tried to start it and it would crank but not turn over. Like theres no spark or fuel.
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Hope these pics help. Cause I have no idea what to do now. I tried to start it and it would crank but not turn over. Like theres no spark or fuel.
firestarter69
10-13-2007, 02:25 PM
inafogg
10-13-2007, 03:09 PM
ok you can see that the pulley has walked off some.check the center mounting bolt its either loose or gone
david-b
10-13-2007, 03:28 PM
Ah crappy cell phone cameras and low light situations. God I hate this world we live in.
Hammer and block of wood. Bang it back on? How did it come loose? Oh ya, racing.
Hammer and block of wood. Bang it back on? How did it come loose? Oh ya, racing.
firestarter69
10-13-2007, 03:45 PM
Would you be able to see the bolt from any of these pics? I tried to beat it back on. It doesnt move.
inafogg
10-13-2007, 07:22 PM
it looks like the bolt is there in 1 picture & missing on another.the picture on the bottom i can see the 4 outside bolts but the 1 in the center im not so sure.can you check to see/feel if its there.if it backed out(pulley) the key way might be messing you up.
firestarter69
10-31-2007, 08:24 AM
I took off the pully and found that it was warped. So I bought another one and tried to put it on. Only to realize that the gear it bolts to has slid off to the point that the notch doesnt line up with the one on the crankshaft pully. I cant figure out how to mkae it line back up. Any ideas?
defiancy
11-01-2007, 01:41 PM
I took off the pully and found that it was warped. So I bought another one and tried to put it on. Only to realize that the gear it bolts to has slid off to the point that the notch doesnt line up with the one on the crankshaft pully. I cant figure out how to mkae it line back up. Any ideas?
What do you mean the gear slid off?
My spidey sense tells me there is something majorly fubar with your car. These things don't just "move" normally.
If you can't get the pulley on there, try taking the gear off and seeing why it was pushed out?
What do you mean the gear slid off?
My spidey sense tells me there is something majorly fubar with your car. These things don't just "move" normally.
If you can't get the pulley on there, try taking the gear off and seeing why it was pushed out?
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