Focus with a 5.0?!
student_anonymous
11-20-2002, 10:14 AM
Hey out there,
Some goofball had a wonderfull idea and a hell of a budget. He took his 2001 Focus ZX2 to a performance shop, where they made it intoa rearwheel drive.
Then they dropped in a Ford crate motor; 5 litre V8, pumping out 360hp.
Then they added dual exhaust, a heavy duty rear end, and some rims to top off the package.
Then it ended up on Hot Rod TV, where it was rolling along, and was passed by an M5. The M5 couldn't pull away from it, the damn Focus sat on it's ass the whole trip.
Good or bad thing? Well, i've said it before and i'll say it again. If that Focus were mine, it'd be
:devil: TIME TO MAKE RICE!!! :devil:
What do ya'll think of this revolution? Honestly, as cool as that would be to have, if those kinda things are rolling around on the road, that makes my newly modded Bonneville much less of a novelty. In all honesty, i'm disgraced at the fact that some pimple-faced 16 year old could pull beside me in that thing with "Fly for a White Guy" blasting on the stereo, and whoop my ass.
Is this alot of hype over nothing, or a realistic 'problem' that we should do something about. Comments are welcome!
:frog:
Some goofball had a wonderfull idea and a hell of a budget. He took his 2001 Focus ZX2 to a performance shop, where they made it intoa rearwheel drive.
Then they dropped in a Ford crate motor; 5 litre V8, pumping out 360hp.
Then they added dual exhaust, a heavy duty rear end, and some rims to top off the package.
Then it ended up on Hot Rod TV, where it was rolling along, and was passed by an M5. The M5 couldn't pull away from it, the damn Focus sat on it's ass the whole trip.
Good or bad thing? Well, i've said it before and i'll say it again. If that Focus were mine, it'd be
:devil: TIME TO MAKE RICE!!! :devil:
What do ya'll think of this revolution? Honestly, as cool as that would be to have, if those kinda things are rolling around on the road, that makes my newly modded Bonneville much less of a novelty. In all honesty, i'm disgraced at the fact that some pimple-faced 16 year old could pull beside me in that thing with "Fly for a White Guy" blasting on the stereo, and whoop my ass.
Is this alot of hype over nothing, or a realistic 'problem' that we should do something about. Comments are welcome!
:frog:
94svt5.0
11-20-2002, 10:28 AM
It was nice wasnt it? There are also a couple of lightning powered 351 focuses around aswell. You can convert a focus over to a 5.0 with all required parts, including the price of the car for around $9500! Where talking with some traction help, high 10s in the 1/4.
student_anonymous
11-20-2002, 10:38 AM
It's a scary thing none the less!!
"All those in favour of reducing the amount of speed-related accidents please raise your right foot! Oops, too late, the guy had a 5.0 Focus!"
Now this isn't turning into a war about whether or not speed kills, i'm just elaborating on 16 year old pimple face with the new toy from the magic bank of Dad's wallet.
These things are actually out there with a Lightning plant aswell?!!
Is this a little insane or am i just a lunatic?!!
(Actually, TV seems to be the real lunatic but you know what i mean!)
(Just teasin man, ;) )
"All those in favour of reducing the amount of speed-related accidents please raise your right foot! Oops, too late, the guy had a 5.0 Focus!"
Now this isn't turning into a war about whether or not speed kills, i'm just elaborating on 16 year old pimple face with the new toy from the magic bank of Dad's wallet.
These things are actually out there with a Lightning plant aswell?!!
Is this a little insane or am i just a lunatic?!!
(Actually, TV seems to be the real lunatic but you know what i mean!)
(Just teasin man, ;) )
94svt5.0
11-20-2002, 11:29 AM
Yes, packing the 351. I thinks its a great idea, well at least with a roll cage. Leave it stock looking, what a sleeper!
carrrnuttt
11-20-2002, 03:17 PM
The 2004 Focus SVT will be powered by a 225HP turbo-charged Mazda 4-banger. That much HP, will give the car a better power-to-weight ratio than a 260HP Mustang GT. Then add a boost-controller...
TerminalVelocity
11-20-2002, 04:19 PM
I want a 502 focous...make it a modernday Shelby cobra...yes....mass insane.....HEHEhehEhEhEheheh OMiKRon
Cbass
11-20-2002, 06:55 PM
TV, just when I think you have absolutely lost it, you go and completely redeem yourself! Why stop with a 502 though? I think an 805CI marine engine should be just about enough ;)
TerminalVelocity
11-20-2002, 07:51 PM
no, I need that in my bird :D
Polygon
11-20-2002, 08:22 PM
Yeah, it is still ugly, in my opinion anyhow. Don't get me wrong I would love another Shelby Cobra, I would rather have something that I think looks good doing it as well.
RACER D12
11-20-2002, 08:39 PM
:huh: a focus with 805CI now that would just not be safe
Cbass
11-20-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
no, I need that in my bird :D
Are you afraid of power? Your Tbird almost twice as much as that focus... you need almost twice as much displacement... off to the junkyard to pick apart a tug boat :D
no, I need that in my bird :D
Are you afraid of power? Your Tbird almost twice as much as that focus... you need almost twice as much displacement... off to the junkyard to pick apart a tug boat :D
Neutrino
11-21-2002, 02:58 AM
Bigest problem i see with these types of engines swaps is that they are good only for drag racing because an engine that size will mess up the weight ratio completelly so don't expect to corner with that thing.
SkunkSI
11-21-2002, 03:03 AM
WTF!?!? how is this done are the mounts the same? I thought focus's were ff drive? Also arent SVT focus's like 220 hp? thats fast...
student_anonymous
11-21-2002, 01:14 PM
From what i understand the engine mounts are pretty well generic for that kind of swap-out. It didn't require much modding other then the obvious bits for making it into a rear wheel drive.
Neutrino, the thing actually does very well on the road, not just straight line. They had automotive test people from Car and Driver and Motortrend drive the thing, and they said despite the huge V8 sitting in front of you, the car is incredibly quiet, and handles like any other focus with beefed up suspension and tighter sway bars.
That impressed me, considering i figured it would be for straight line only, but the guys that drove it put the car through it's paces and said it's a great car to drive anywhere, especially with that kind of power.
Now TV, i want to know just how the hell you expect to get a Tugboat engine and transmission to fit UNDER the hood of your car and still have enough room for you to SEE THE ROAD!!!!!!!!!! HEll, even the 805 i'd like to see squeezed in there!!
:hehehe:
Neutrino, the thing actually does very well on the road, not just straight line. They had automotive test people from Car and Driver and Motortrend drive the thing, and they said despite the huge V8 sitting in front of you, the car is incredibly quiet, and handles like any other focus with beefed up suspension and tighter sway bars.
That impressed me, considering i figured it would be for straight line only, but the guys that drove it put the car through it's paces and said it's a great car to drive anywhere, especially with that kind of power.
Now TV, i want to know just how the hell you expect to get a Tugboat engine and transmission to fit UNDER the hood of your car and still have enough room for you to SEE THE ROAD!!!!!!!!!! HEll, even the 805 i'd like to see squeezed in there!!
:hehehe:
Cbass
11-21-2002, 09:01 PM
RWD cars usually handle much better than FWD anyways, you can take more advantage of weight transfer, and the weight distribution/centre is much more neutral.
If you have a car with a 50/50 weight balance, and RWD, the only thing missing for a great handling car is good suspension.
If you have a car with a 50/50 weight balance, and RWD, the only thing missing for a great handling car is good suspension.
TerminalVelocity
11-22-2002, 06:27 AM
cameras, and mass moniters, nolonger have to worry about things cracking my windshield :D Just have 3 cameras, its like fightertown :p
student_anonymous
11-22-2002, 12:36 PM
LOL, TV ur a genius!
CBass you said it all! RWD is the bomb! My dream would be my Bonneville with RWD and a stick shift 6 speed. Won't happen for another 3 years though at least! Then i can afford the rear wheel drive change over, the rebuilding of the whole powertrain, new headers probably and a Corvette tranny!
Dun Dun DUH!
:smoka:
CBass you said it all! RWD is the bomb! My dream would be my Bonneville with RWD and a stick shift 6 speed. Won't happen for another 3 years though at least! Then i can afford the rear wheel drive change over, the rebuilding of the whole powertrain, new headers probably and a Corvette tranny!
Dun Dun DUH!
:smoka:
-The Stig-
11-22-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by student_anonymous
LOL, TV ur a genius!
CBass you said it all! RWD is the bomb! My dream would be my Bonneville with RWD and a stick shift 6 speed. Won't happen for another 3 years though at least! Then i can afford the rear wheel drive change over, the rebuilding of the whole powertrain, new headers probably and a Corvette tranny!
Dun Dun DUH!
:smoka:
Not to mention ripping out the floor pan and modifying it to get that RWD humb in the passenger cabbin... or you could just leave the new components hanging down below the car to get banged up?
LOL, TV ur a genius!
CBass you said it all! RWD is the bomb! My dream would be my Bonneville with RWD and a stick shift 6 speed. Won't happen for another 3 years though at least! Then i can afford the rear wheel drive change over, the rebuilding of the whole powertrain, new headers probably and a Corvette tranny!
Dun Dun DUH!
:smoka:
Not to mention ripping out the floor pan and modifying it to get that RWD humb in the passenger cabbin... or you could just leave the new components hanging down below the car to get banged up?
Cbass
11-23-2002, 01:21 AM
I saw the Focus on hot rod tv last night, it looks pretty slick. Done by Kugel Components they say...
flylwsi
11-23-2002, 05:14 PM
sounds like people don't like the idea...
fyi... the svt focus makes 170hp right now. as of 11/23.
not sure on the new ones.
the kugel kit is a full bolt in sub frame and high quality. it's been out for over a year, and fits well with a stock 302 in it. and it would rip alot of cars to shreds.
the conversion all told is about 8k but it would be worth it to roll up to a vette and smoke the rears and then eat em up for dinner.
fyi... the svt focus makes 170hp right now. as of 11/23.
not sure on the new ones.
the kugel kit is a full bolt in sub frame and high quality. it's been out for over a year, and fits well with a stock 302 in it. and it would rip alot of cars to shreds.
the conversion all told is about 8k but it would be worth it to roll up to a vette and smoke the rears and then eat em up for dinner.
street_racer_00
11-23-2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Neutrino
Bigest problem i see with these types of engines swaps is that they are good only for drag racing because an engine that size will mess up the weight ratio completelly so don't expect to corner with that thing.
I believe it was the great Enzo Ferrari that once said "Corners are just there to connect the straightaways". This post has no point, btw.:D
Bigest problem i see with these types of engines swaps is that they are good only for drag racing because an engine that size will mess up the weight ratio completelly so don't expect to corner with that thing.
I believe it was the great Enzo Ferrari that once said "Corners are just there to connect the straightaways". This post has no point, btw.:D
Cbass
11-24-2002, 01:57 PM
Yeah, it uses a T5 and an 8.8 ala Fox body Mustang, but a crate engine 302 with a carb... I'd rather have the fuelly 5.0, or better yet a 347 stroker with twin turbochargers and 9:1 static compression and twisted wedge heads... okay, I'll stop now.
Yeah, the sub frame is all welded steel, very nice indeed...
Yeah, the sub frame is all welded steel, very nice indeed...
student_anonymous
11-26-2002, 03:55 PM
Redneck, there's no room to leave everything hanging below the car..it's about 3.5 inches above the ground as is!
If you've ever been in a Bonneville, you'd know that when i say i want it rearwheel drive that i'd have to rip out the climate controll for the rear passengers, re-instate a new dash, build housing for the driveshaft, modify the trunk to accomodate a new rear-end, and most likely chop under the hood to drop in a new high-compression engine to make the whole thing compatible!!
That's not all i'd have to do either. I'm simply throwing a few ideas out there man! Jeez, let a man have his fun here!
Kugel components is exactly right CBass...8 grand and 9 months to do it.
And blow a vette out of the water. And be economical.
And still be a Freakin Ford Focus!! :bloated:
If you've ever been in a Bonneville, you'd know that when i say i want it rearwheel drive that i'd have to rip out the climate controll for the rear passengers, re-instate a new dash, build housing for the driveshaft, modify the trunk to accomodate a new rear-end, and most likely chop under the hood to drop in a new high-compression engine to make the whole thing compatible!!
That's not all i'd have to do either. I'm simply throwing a few ideas out there man! Jeez, let a man have his fun here!
Kugel components is exactly right CBass...8 grand and 9 months to do it.
And blow a vette out of the water. And be economical.
And still be a Freakin Ford Focus!! :bloated:
-The Stig-
11-26-2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by student_anonymous
That's not all i'd have to do either. I'm simply throwing a few ideas out there man! Jeez, let a man have his fun here!
sorry... ill stop thinking realisticly... hahaha.
That's not all i'd have to do either. I'm simply throwing a few ideas out there man! Jeez, let a man have his fun here!
sorry... ill stop thinking realisticly... hahaha.
TerminalVelocity
11-26-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by RedNeck383
sorry... ill stop thinking realisticly... hahaha.
yah, you ass! :p
sorry... ill stop thinking realisticly... hahaha.
yah, you ass! :p
student_anonymous
11-28-2002, 10:43 AM
YAH!
Jeez!!
LOL, all in fun guys...it's not illegal to dream about speeding. Although i'm not to sure about Ohio...
(J/K)
- in reference to Cannonball Run and the death penalty for speeding.
COME ON PEOPLE!! REMIND ME WHY I PAY YOU!!!
I'm done now. :sleep:
Jeez!!
LOL, all in fun guys...it's not illegal to dream about speeding. Although i'm not to sure about Ohio...
(J/K)
- in reference to Cannonball Run and the death penalty for speeding.
COME ON PEOPLE!! REMIND ME WHY I PAY YOU!!!
I'm done now. :sleep:
Ford ZX2 1999
03-03-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by student_anonymous
Hey out there,
Some goofball had a wonderfull idea and a hell of a budget. He took his 2001 Focus ZX2 to a performance shop, where they made it intoa rearwheel drive.
Then they dropped in a Ford crate motor; 5 litre V8, pumping out 360hp.
Then they added dual exhaust, a heavy duty rear end, and some rims to top off the package.
Then it ended up on Hot Rod TV, where it was rolling along, and was passed by an M5. The M5 couldn't pull away from it, the damn Focus sat on it's ass the whole trip.
Good or bad thing? Well, i've said it before and i'll say it again. If that Focus were mine, it'd be
:devil: TIME TO MAKE RICE!!! :devil:
What do ya'll think of this revolution? Honestly, as cool as that would be to have, if those kinda things are rolling around on the road, that makes my newly modded Bonneville much less of a novelty. In all honesty, i'm disgraced at the fact that some pimple-faced 16 year old could pull beside me in that thing with "Fly for a White Guy" blasting on the stereo, and whoop my ass.
Is this alot of hype over nothing, or a realistic 'problem' that we should do something about. Comments are welcome!
:frog:
The thing you're missing is that there is no such thing as a Focus ZX2... Focus makes: wagon, sedan, ZX3, ZX5, and SVT.... But no ZX2.
The ZX2 is completely different. It was originally made in '98 and marketed under the Escort name. But really the ZX2 isn't an Escort either. ZX2 was built on the Escort platform, but that is all it shares with the Escort, which is why the Escort was dropped from its title, I believe in '01... Focus did not even exist yet when the first ZX2 came out. The ZX2 is a coupe, while the ZX3 and ZX5 are hatchbacks...
Were you perhaps thinking of a ZX3 or a ZX5??? Or did you intend ZX2 and not realize that there is no Focus ZX2?
Hey out there,
Some goofball had a wonderfull idea and a hell of a budget. He took his 2001 Focus ZX2 to a performance shop, where they made it intoa rearwheel drive.
Then they dropped in a Ford crate motor; 5 litre V8, pumping out 360hp.
Then they added dual exhaust, a heavy duty rear end, and some rims to top off the package.
Then it ended up on Hot Rod TV, where it was rolling along, and was passed by an M5. The M5 couldn't pull away from it, the damn Focus sat on it's ass the whole trip.
Good or bad thing? Well, i've said it before and i'll say it again. If that Focus were mine, it'd be
:devil: TIME TO MAKE RICE!!! :devil:
What do ya'll think of this revolution? Honestly, as cool as that would be to have, if those kinda things are rolling around on the road, that makes my newly modded Bonneville much less of a novelty. In all honesty, i'm disgraced at the fact that some pimple-faced 16 year old could pull beside me in that thing with "Fly for a White Guy" blasting on the stereo, and whoop my ass.
Is this alot of hype over nothing, or a realistic 'problem' that we should do something about. Comments are welcome!
:frog:
The thing you're missing is that there is no such thing as a Focus ZX2... Focus makes: wagon, sedan, ZX3, ZX5, and SVT.... But no ZX2.
The ZX2 is completely different. It was originally made in '98 and marketed under the Escort name. But really the ZX2 isn't an Escort either. ZX2 was built on the Escort platform, but that is all it shares with the Escort, which is why the Escort was dropped from its title, I believe in '01... Focus did not even exist yet when the first ZX2 came out. The ZX2 is a coupe, while the ZX3 and ZX5 are hatchbacks...
Were you perhaps thinking of a ZX3 or a ZX5??? Or did you intend ZX2 and not realize that there is no Focus ZX2?
fatninja19
03-03-2003, 09:32 PM
This post is too old and I don't care.
flylwsi
03-03-2003, 10:22 PM
considering the topic has been covered like white on rice, we all know it's a zx3 focus hatch.
no one is disputing it.
it was a typo. in a hella old post.
get over it.
i'm sure anyone that had questions went to kugel's site, saw it was a zx3 hatch, and said, wow, typo.
and ya know what, we all did that 5 months ago.
no one is disputing it.
it was a typo. in a hella old post.
get over it.
i'm sure anyone that had questions went to kugel's site, saw it was a zx3 hatch, and said, wow, typo.
and ya know what, we all did that 5 months ago.
Ford ZX2 1999
03-04-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
considering the topic has been covered like white on rice, we all know it's a zx3 focus hatch.
no one is disputing it.
it was a typo. in a hella old post.
get over it.
i'm sure anyone that had questions went to kugel's site, saw it was a zx3 hatch, and said, wow, typo.
and ya know what, we all did that 5 months ago.
Well sorry I wasn't here 5 months ago! And I didn't realize it was that old. Give me a break.
considering the topic has been covered like white on rice, we all know it's a zx3 focus hatch.
no one is disputing it.
it was a typo. in a hella old post.
get over it.
i'm sure anyone that had questions went to kugel's site, saw it was a zx3 hatch, and said, wow, typo.
and ya know what, we all did that 5 months ago.
Well sorry I wasn't here 5 months ago! And I didn't realize it was that old. Give me a break.
flylwsi
03-04-2003, 05:35 PM
i'm just pointing out the obvious...
everyone here picked up on it, and if you look at the bottom left corner of each person's post, the date is there, so you can see what's goin on...
everyone here picked up on it, and if you look at the bottom left corner of each person's post, the date is there, so you can see what's goin on...
Ford ZX2 1999
03-04-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
i'm just pointing out the obvious...
everyone here picked up on it, and if you look at the bottom left corner of each person's post, the date is there, so you can see what's goin on...
I know that now...
Didn't at the time... Found out yesterday about the dates being in the corners...
i'm just pointing out the obvious...
everyone here picked up on it, and if you look at the bottom left corner of each person's post, the date is there, so you can see what's goin on...
I know that now...
Didn't at the time... Found out yesterday about the dates being in the corners...
initialdrift sw20
06-30-2005, 11:22 PM
i saw one with a cobra mustang driveline.
4.6l DOHC supercharged 6-speed with a split rearend.
4.6l DOHC supercharged 6-speed with a split rearend.
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