the moon

can someone give me some reason to go to the moon. people have gone in the past, the us government was tossing around the idea of going back, india is now planning to send a probe to get a 3d map of the moon and stuff.

what i can't figure out is what could be so valuable up there that it would warrant spending millions or billions of dollars to investigate it.

the only thing i've come up with is mining, there could be some metals up there in abundance that we could use. any other ideas?

For the same reason that People climb Mount Evert, becuase its there.

They're still trying to get there for the first time. Neil Armstrong my ass

Because there is no atmosphere, the cheese stays really fresh

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For the same reason that People climb Mount Evert, becuase its there.

Is this a piss post?

Is this a piss post?
Dude, who is calling out pissposts??? j00 are the one who posted a still of Wallace and Grommit! GROSS!

You expect me to take a thread asking for a reason to go to the moon seriously?

You been hitting the red wine again Tangie?

No, I'm afraid of migraines.

Yuengling has been my friend this eve... THAT AND THE STEELERS GAME!! Booya! freakray, I KNOW you miss Yuengling! ;)

freakray, I KNOW you miss Yuengling! ;)

I can get all the Yuengling I want - they do sell it outside of PA now.

Screw the Steelers. Let's send them to the moon...

Yuengling and steelers, good combination.

About the moon, NASA might use it as a pit stop before a mission to mars. Rockets could refuel and stuff, although an orbiting space station around the moon would be more efficient. Less fuel wasted breaking the moon's gravitational pull.

What are you talking about? The US had never landed a man on the moon, and if they did so they would be the first ones.

The Moon Landing was the greatest hoax in history.

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what i can't figure out is what could be so valuable up there that it would warrant spending millions or billions of dollars to investigate it.

the only thing i've come up with is mining, there could be some metals up there in abundance that we could use. any other ideas?

The moon has a significant supply of Helium-3, which is highly sought after for fusion reactions.
Fusion reactions have the potential to create immense amounts of energy (think Spiderman 2), with very little pollution. Its said that a few Shuttles full of Helium-3 has the potential to power the face of the planet for a year or so.
According to Popular Mechanics (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/1283056.html?page=4), the price of an ounce of Helium-3 has a "projected value of $40,000".
Inaddition, the Chinese, with their Lunar Exploration Program (http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/china_moon_030304.html), and the Russians (RKK Energiya) are also strongly considering mining the moon for Helium-3.

Also, as tman said, the moon's frozen water supply could be used as fuel, creating a pit stop to Mars.

Finally, what about colonization? Somebody, sometime, has got to put things in motion and say overpopulation is getting out of hand, we need to start thinking about colonizing other parts of our solar system.

so ur telling me there are things that cost more than gasoline prices at the pump!?!?!?



no wai

I miss the old AF.

Just seeing a thread about going to the moon reminds me of the glory days of Bongo vans and Perky Nanas!

This thread reminds me of the Eddie Murphy movie I watched last night... The Adventures of Pluto Nash. Yes, I wasted 2 hours of my evening, but watching Randy Quaid as a robot was rather humorous.

There are many people I'd like to pay billions for sending up there.

Is this a piss post?

Piss Post? No, why would you think that.

Smart Ass Post? You bet :thumbsup:

to go say "hi" to Blackbolt

If they never went to the moon, then where did the shuttles go?

The shuttles never landed on the moon. The shuttle is incapable of landing and then taking off like a plane. The wings are for stabilizing a controlled fall into the atmosphere, not flight. The shuttle only orbits and docks with stuff in space.

The US was in a crunch to beat the soviets to having a manned mission to the moon as well as distract americans from the Vietnam War There's a ton of reasons to question the authenticity of the footage presented to the public.

In addition, Neil Armstrong went into a depression following their 'return' and many years later provided a great quote that eascapes me at the moment and I can't find on the web. It basically said there are many mysteries to be uncovered hidden by the layers of history that cover them. Bill Clinton said in his book that he believed in the moon landing (as most did). An old man told him that it was a fake and at the time he disregarded it as ignorant fallacy, but after 8 years in office he wonders if the old man was ahead of his time.

Until a couple years ago I thought man went to the moon also but the abundance of sketchy circumstances surrounding the events has led me to see otherwise. Read up on it and you may question it too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations

http://www.moonhoax.com/site/testimony.html

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

If they never went to the moon, then where did the shuttles go?

lol!!

If they never went to the moon, then where did the shuttles go?

Poster child for American education, anyone?

Poster child for American education, anyone?
I think Miss Teen South Carolina took care of that for EVERYONE.

If they never went to the moon, then where did the shuttles go?

Mars, numbnuts. Just keep it quiet, or before you know it, the place will be crawling with terrorists, and we'll have to send troops to convert the Martians to democracy.

The US was in a crunch to beat the soviets to having a manned mission to the moon as well as distract americans from the Vietnam War There's a ton of reasons to question the authenticity of the footage presented to the public.

In addition, Neil Armstrong went into a depression following their 'return' and many years later provided a great quote that eascapes me at the moment and I can't find on the web. It basically said there are many mysteries to be uncovered hidden by the layers of history that cover them. Bill Clinton said in his book that he believed in the moon landing (as most did). An old man told him that it was a fake and at the time he disregarded it as ignorant fallacy, but after 8 years in office he wonders if the old man was ahead of his time.

Until a couple years ago I thought man went to the moon also but the abundance of sketchy circumstances surrounding the events has led me to see otherwise. Read up on it and you may question it too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations

http://www.moonhoax.com/site/testimony.html

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

From what I read on wiki, it seemed like for every possible hoax theory, there were several explanations debunking it.

to go say "hi" to Blackbolt
The Inhumans ROCK!!!:grinyes: :sunglasse They can't even get sh!t right down here, why go and try to f!@$# the moon up?! :dunno: Oh, Ray's correct; they sell Yuengling here in Florida. I have a co-worker that has the stuff pumping through his bloodstream! :lol:

From what I read on wiki, it seemed like for every possible hoax theory, there were several explanations debunking it.

Yes there is but just because something can be explained away doesn't mean it isn't so. I'm sure the government dedicated much time and money to finding scientific explanations for the inconsistencies in the event. Remember that back then there were no DVRs or VCRs to record the event so all they had to do was fool the american people en masse and presumably they would have no chance to review the tapes and evidence for themselves.

The main points that convinced me were the fact that they took no pictures of the stars even though they would have been spectaculer pictures from above the atmosphere, telemetry tapes have mysteriously disappeared, Armstrong's post-'flight' depression and quote (which I still can't find), and the fact that we lost interest in going to the moon once Vietnam was over.

Oh, Ray's correct; they sell Yuengling here in Florida. I have a co-worker that has the stuff pumping through his bloodstream! :lol:
I've bought cases of Yuengling in Virginia before... but it's not nearly as cheap as it is in PA. ;)

I've bought cases of Yuengling in Virginia before... but it's not nearly as cheap as it is in PA. ;)

Maybe, but you can't go to Giant and pick up a case in PA, I can here:icon16:

Now wifey can't claim that beer isn't part of the grocery shopping.

And as for the retarded girl from SC, at least she mentioned South Africa twice :p

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Hey Ray, at least we can claim something eh?

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Hey Ray, at least we can claim something eh?
As a citizen of a mapless nation, I insist on telling the Saffies to STFU! :p



P.S. - Everyone knows the moon is made of cheese... so we couldn't possibly have landed on it because then all the cheese would have melted. Could you imagine the number of nacho chips we would need to clean up THAT mess?

Screw the Steelers. Let's send them to the moon...

lets send you for saying that about the steelers since they won 4 of the 5 preseason games!

lets send you for saying that about the steelers since they won 4 of the 5 preseason games!

Better yet, let's put you in the Steeler's locker room for the pre and post game, then they will ask to be sent to the moon.

The main points that convinced me were the fact that they took no pictures of the stars even though they would have been spectaculer pictures from above the atmosphere, telemetry tapes have mysteriously disappeared, Armstrong's post-'flight' depression and quote (which I still can't find), and the fact that we lost interest in going to the moon once Vietnam was over.

Because its really f'in bright on the sunny side of the moon, so the cameras..which used film.. had very short shutter times. Not nearly enough to pick up the stars. If you were convinced by that stupid theory, i have a bridge to sell you...

...and during the 200,000+ miles between earth's atmosphere and the moon?

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/images/content/69666main_Apollo-fig7.gif

Like this shot? same deal.

Srsly. If you don't believe me, take a camera with some 200 speed film, and try to take a picture of the starts on a dark night. See how long the shutter has to stay open. If theres ANYTHING bright in the shot (such as the moon) it would be completely washed out.

I understand and believe your explanation when there is interference of another light source within the frame. But it seems to me (and many other conspiracy theorists) that during the vast expanse between the earth's atmosphere and the surface of the moon there should have been available a shot from the space shuttle that would provide a shot of the unfiltered light from distant stars without having either the earth or moon in the frame. Not only should such a shot have been available, but so breathtaking to the astronauts who were witnessing it that they would have been compelled to capture it on film.

I understand and believe your explanation when there is interference of another light source within the frame. But it seems to me (and many other conspiracy theorists) that during the vast expanse between the earth's atmosphere and the surface of the moon there should have been available a shot from the space shuttle that would provide a shot of the unfiltered light from distant stars without having either the earth or moon in the frame. Not only should such a shot have been available, but so breathtaking to the astronauts who were witnessing it that they would have been compelled to capture it on film.

Perhaps, but that's the weakest 'evidence' i've EVER heard. The fact that they didnt take a shot or one is not available has absolutley no bearing on if they went or not in the first place.

:rolleyes: I didn't say it was hardcore evidence that they didn't go. I'm saying its one of the many questionable inconsistencies surrounding the event that leads me to believe it never really happened. If you'll look back at my previous posts, I included a link to sites outlining the dozens of other issues that have been questioned about the supposed moon landing.

:rolleyes: I didn't say it was hardcore evidence that they didn't go. I'm saying its one of the many questionable inconsistencies surrounding the event that leads me to believe it never really happened. If you'll look back at my previous posts, I included a link to sites outlining the dozens of other issues that have been questioned about the supposed moon landing.
Good idea... give links... because EVERYTHING you read on the nets is the truth. ;)


Just playing devil's advocate my friend.





Besides, can't everyone get a piece of cheese from that thing in the night sky? Why can't we all just get along? Jeez!

They're still trying to get there for the first time. Neil Armstrong my ass
:rolleyes:

If you think they had the technology to fake that in the late 60's then you're truly stupid. Not to mention Area 51 didn't exist back then. Besides, you're going to believe something from Fox News? If so, then you're even dumber than I could imagine.

To answer the original question. I guess a good reason is the fact that the moon used to be a part of the Earth during the early stages of Earth's development. There are elements on the moon that aren't found on Earth. I suppose we could learn more about the Earth by studying the moon. It also helps that the moon is geologically inactive. There are more interesting things to study in space in my opinion.

Funny reading some of this thread. My Uncle is Eugene Cernan on my fathers side the 11th person to walk on the moon during the last Apollo mission. Don't insist that any landings were fake thats just ignorant.

:rolleyes: I didn't say it was hardcore evidence that they didn't go. I'm saying its one of the many questionable inconsistencies surrounding the event that leads me to believe it never really happened. If you'll look back at my previous posts, I included a link to sites outlining the dozens of other issues that have been questioned about the supposed moon landing.

And just aobut every one of those 'inconsistancies' can be explained away with a basic knowledge of physics, common sense, and astronomy knowledge.

But arguing with moon-conspiritors is like arguing with flat earthers. They use the exact same arguing techniques and ignorance of the physical laws of nature to 'prove' their points. At they very end they fall back to "the government covers it up!" which is unprovable and un-disprovable. Nice.

Jeebus fucking goodness I'm not the one that brought this topic back up! I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone into believeing the mon landing was faked. I presented my opinion and some links to anyone who was interested in learning why I would think that. You don't wanna hear about it then don't look and don't ask! Get off my fucking balls about it

And btw polygon what super-advanced technology does it take to fake a video feed? If you believe its that complicated to broadcast some fake images on tv in 1969 then you are stupider than I could imagine.


Oh, I also believe we live in the Matrix, gravity is an illusion, and VTEC is a myth... enjoy

VTEC is a myth...

Also, I don't think it's so much as we are being pulled down as we are being pushed. AHHHH!!! Sorry, quote from friends.

Jeebus fucking goodness I'm not the one that brought this topic back up! I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone into believeing the mon landing was faked. I presented my opinion and some links to anyone who was interested in learning why I would think that. You don't wanna hear about it then don't look and don't ask! Get off my fucking balls about it

And btw polygon what super-advanced technology does it take to fake a video feed? If you believe its that complicated to broadcast some fake images on tv in 1969 then you are stupider than I could imagine.


Oh, I also believe we live in the Matrix, gravity is an illusion, and VTEC is a myth... enjoy

Jeez why so butthurt? It's not a matter of opinion, friend. Its fact. It either DID happen or it DIDNT. You can opine all you want about your favorite color, or abortion, or if blondes are hotter than brunettes. When it comes to this, opinion has no place in an argument.

Butthurt...no. Annoyed at the typical internet tactic of lambasting people that don't agree with you, yes. You said it happened, I said it didn't. All the "you're so stupid to believe that" is the annoying part of internet debate that I could do without. You can't have an intelligent debate on the internet without people piling on or name-calling because of the security blanket of e-annonymity. I enojy debate, not argument... ask Brody if you care to know the truth. I attempted to continue the debate, others chose to turn it to an argument.

Healthy debate results in a wealth of information being shared toward everyone's benefit. Arguing and insult throwing results in threads turning into the usual bullshit you see around here.

Jeebus fucking goodness I'm not the one that brought this topic back up! I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone into believeing the mon landing was faked. I presented my opinion and some links to anyone who was interested in learning why I would think that. You don't wanna hear about it then don't look and don't ask! Get off my fucking balls about it

And btw polygon what super-advanced technology does it take to fake a video feed? If you believe its that complicated to broadcast some fake images on tv in 1969 then you are stupider than I could imagine.

They did not have the technology to fake them bounding around on the moon, they did not have the technology to show the lunar module take off. They did not have the technology to make fake video of the moon landing. It's not just pictures. It's like Steel said, all conspiracy theorists are people that seem to have too much time on their hands and lack a serious amount of common sense.

I'm sorry I'm pointing this fact out but I am sick of people trying to make up bullshit stories, then it pisses me off when people side with these "OPINIONS" based solely on what they read on the internet or saw on T.V. If you believe Fox News wouldn't lie about something just for ratings, well then, you know. Also, there are factual errors and lies on the internet. Like Steel said, any point made by the conspiracy has a simple answer that debunks the question.

We landed on the moon, get over it.

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The moon landing is a crock of shit.
Apparently, velcro was one of the results of the space program and when I was in primary school velcro strapped trainers/sneakers were seriously uncool because that meant you didn't know how to tie your own shoe-laces.
My mum bought me a pair of velcro'd trainers. Velcro'd Gola trainers.
That's why the moon landing is a crock of shit.
Fucking velcro.

Damn. I'm away for a bit and missed out on some good moonage.

The moon landing is a crock of shit.
Apparently, velcro was one of the results of the space program and when I was in primary school velcro strapped trainers/sneakers were seriously uncool because that meant you didn't know how to tie your own shoe-laces.
My mum bought me a pair of velcro'd trainers. Velcro'd Gola trainers.
That's why the moon landing is a crock of shit.
Fucking velcro.

eeeeeerrr, wrong. Velcro was invented in 1941 by a swiss engineer. ;)

They did not have the technology to fake them bounding around on the moon, they did not have the technology to show the lunar module take off. They did not have the technology to make fake video of the moon landing. It's not just pictures. It's like Steel said, all conspiracy theorists are people that seem to have too much time on their hands and lack a serious amount of common sense.

I'm sorry I'm pointing this fact out but I am sick of people trying to make up bullshit stories, then it pisses me off when people side with these "OPINIONS" based solely on what they read on the internet or saw on T.V. If you believe Fox News wouldn't lie about something just for ratings, well then, you know. Also, there are factual errors and lies on the internet. Like Steel said, any point made by the conspiracy has a simple answer that debunks the question.

We landed on the moon, get over it.

Again, what advanced technology does any of that require? It was 1969 not 1869. If movie producers can make a car fly and have it look realistic on a 20 foot screen then having a couple guys hop around with a conter weight couldn't be too dificult. And why do you keep referencing Fox News? Did they just run a piece on moon conspiracy that I don't know about?

I'm not going to agree with you, get over it.

eeeeeerrr, wrong. Velcro was invented in 1941 by a swiss engineer. ;)


then switzerland is a crock shit.
velcro ruined my childhood

the earth is flat too.

this thread brings me great joy :evillol:

I had too, problem solved.

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