Red Death - Status...

okokok... friggin bargain oil pan aslo had a friggin bargain leak. Guy is replacing it though so all should be ok. Should be getting final (hopefully - now I'm broke) shipment from Jeg's today...

Finished up wiring back half last night, front has been done, just need to finish wiring the dash, which is being held up by the dash pad. Speaking of that pile of crap... has anyone ever mentioned what a pain in the ass vinyl is to work with? The whole upper dash is vinyl'd except for the trim piece around the dash bezel (stitched part) - need something to fuse vinyl together - epoxy, hot glue, etc doesn't work. Going to try PVC cement and some other stuff tonight.

Switched my game plan though... I'm only covering the upper dash in vinyl until I get a chance to fab up a whole new dash, door panels and console. Need to buy a welder first, so that may take longer than I want it too, but to get RD where I want that's what I'ma hafta do.

LOL, that new quote in your sig says it all! :lol:

haha.. yeah and I left out that it would be cheaper, too.

Gorilla glue tends to stick things together, if that fails there is always duct tape :icon16:.

Carpet glue? Linoleum glue?

as long as its not falling/crumbling apart, superglue WILL work. just dont use too much of it, small dots work better than big ass trails. just dont get stuck to your car :D

Gorilla glue tends to stick things together, if that fails there is always duct tape :icon16:.


Your still using duct tape? From the same company as the famous Gorilla Glue comes Gorilla Tape! Over twice the adhesion than professional grade duct tape. Gorilla Tape also excels were duct tape fails: stucco, plaster, brick, masonary etc.


Gorilla Glue Co. isn't paying me so I will also mention professional grade duct tape is around $7-8 a roll, Gorilla Tape is about $9-10

?-? Need to glue it... tape won't work.. that'll look as hillbilly as anything I've ever seen.

Going to try PVC cement... see if it'll melt the vinyl together. Going to try superglue too.. not sure if carpet glue would work, but whatever the hell they put on the carpet seam tape would sure work. I think the linoleum and gorilla glue get hard / stiff / brittle and wouldn't last long, though I may be wrong. Going to try the PVC cement and superglue tonight... need to find out what kind of adhesive is on that carpet seam tape.

Jim! post some pics up of that car man.. we gotta see what kind of a mess you're making over there. lol

I would, but I'm afraid one of you mods will move it to the "Holy Shit I Can't Believe That Retard Did That To His Camaro" sub-forum, lmao.

Seriously though... I'll post some up this weekend.

?-? Need to glue it... tape won't work.. that'll look as hillbilly as anything I've ever seen.

Going to try PVC cement... see if it'll melt the vinyl together. Going to try superglue too.. not sure if carpet glue would work, but whatever the hell they put on the carpet seam tape would sure work. I think the linoleum and gorilla glue get hard / stiff / brittle and wouldn't last long, though I may be wrong. Going to try the PVC cement and superglue tonight... need to find out what kind of adhesive is on that carpet seam tape.


Yeah dont use gorilla glue that would be stupid. Gorilla glue expands to 4 times the size, so it will probably make bumps in the vinyl. I dont think it ever gets brittle though...

How about JB Weld?

Forgot about that... Trying everything tonight, I'll get some of that too. Thanks.

Jim,

Did you check out the upholstery spray glue? My mom uses that shit at her upholstery shop I should call and ask her what she uses...lol

Jim,

Did you check out the upholstery spray glue? My mom uses that shit at her upholstery shop I should call and ask her what she uses...lol


3M Super 90 Spray Adhesive?


Jim have you tried that yet? Why didn't I think of that already...


EDIT: Actually 3M 80 would be better, its made for vinyl.

I think that is it.

Spray the the side of each piece you want to stick together. Then let it sit for 30 sec to a min till it gets nice and tacky and then stick it together.

Used 3M 90 - doesn't work on naugahyde to naugahyde... Or I'm doing something seriously wrong. Worked great for sticking it to the dash pad, but now I'm trying to get a thin strip of naugahyde to the naugahyde on the dash. If you know the 2 gen's dash... its the little stupid stiched part.

Never saw 3M 80. Have to look around for it.

EDIT - Actually considered stapling the fucker on there, but uh... it just wouldn't look right.

Much like Gorilla glue.. which I would find to be very funny if you used it and saw the crap expand after a bit. Lol

The carpet stuff you were thinking about is called seam sealer. Carpet installers use it to glue carpet together. Buddy of mine is a carpet guy, told me a bit about it. Holds great, but he's not sure about naughahyde.

Forget the staples. Use a 16penny nail gun...lol

Can you take some pics of it? I am not sure what part of the dash you are talking about. The last 2nd gen I had was a 78 firechicken. Can't remember what the dash looked like.

It's the part that goes around the gauge bezel...

Don't have any pic's of that right now... but I'll have the finished pic's up over the weekend. Tried superglue, weldit, and one other thing ... the superglue actually worked so good that when I tried to pull it apart the vinyl separated from the backer! The other 2 are still setting up / drying so I'll find out tomorrow what I'm gonna use, but superglue sure surprised the shit out of me. Unless the other 2 somehow work better, that's what I'm going to use.

When I do get around to redoing the interior for real... I'm going to do a photo step-by-step thing and post it up.

Ski, yeah I figured that the carpet seam tape would only be good for materials that have the same rough back like carpet... but damn is that shit tough!

:) :thumbsup: thats how half the things in my beater neon is held up.. i got pieces of my dash (it shattered) glued 2gether w. superglue.. its how my bulbs are held into the sealed beam lights in the camaro (i put in bulbs into the sealed beam housing). and i have a case of superglue in my toolbox always.

i found generic works alright, its strong.. but the BEST BEST BEST superglue is the 3M- GEL type superglue.. its easy to apply, hard as hell, decently fast set time.. and actually re-usable when you uncap it a month down the line..

secret = use little dots/ little bit.. or let it sit for a really long time, if you use a lot.

Superglue is also amazing for closing wounds.

:useless:

C'mon Jim, show us the mess you're making...:naughty:

GOD DAMMIT! Stupid Naugas. Didn't work, couldn't get the naugahyde to stretch over the left hand side of the dash bezel, got glue all overthe whole thing and wound up ripping it all off. (I would have worked and really would have looked good if the dash didn't have as many bends in it. When I make my new dash, console and door panels in the spring I'm going to try it again.)

I got a good idea off of MP3Car.Com (carputer guys) and have to find the right stuff ... but it should be WAY easier. Get this... truck bed liner. The hard shiny kind, not the anti-skid kind. Already tried the A/S kind just to see if it even worth doing and it works great, but has a sand-ish finish to it.
I'll put the gauges back in the bezel take pictures and try to get some that don't make RD look too bad and post them up tonight. I FREAKING PROMISE! (Wound up putting in a new return in the A/C last night, and then had like 20 other things to try and finish and never got around to it.)