Please help, info needed

Hi everyone, I need soem help. I'm interested in getting a 240sx as a summer car/project car because I'm getting sick of my wimpy little Civic...

Question is, can someone post some info or a link that shows the differences of each generation and what years they existed between? Also can someone show me a link or info on the different motors found in 240sx's and Silvias and the difficulty in swapping them?

Thanks in advance, sorry for being an idiot up until now I've been a Honda guy...

In the USA the 240SX came as the following:
- S13 chassis - 1989-1994 There was a coupe and a hatchback version. There was also a limited edition convertable version. When going for the S13, most people go for the 89-93 because the 94 was available strictly as a convertable with an auto tranny. From 1989-1990 the coupe and the fastback both came with the KA24E. That's a single cam motor that puts out 140 HP. From 1991 and up it came with the KA24DE, a dual cam motor that puts out 155 HP. The S13 was also available with HICAS which is a 4 wheel steering system. Some people like it a lot and some hate it. I've heard that if you plan on drifting, you don't want HICAS.

- S14 chassis - 1995-1998 Here it was available only as a coupe but got a different body styling. There are 2 different S14's though. From 1995-1996 the S14 came with oval headlights. From 1997-1998 the headlights were changed to a slanted, or "shark eye" style. That was the only difference between the 2 S14's. The S14 came with the KA24DE.

In Japan it came as 2 different models, the 180SX and the Silvia.

- S13 chassis - 1989-1998 The 180SX is the japanese version of our 240SX fastback. They are the same except for the motor that was in it. From 1989-1990 The 180SX came with the CA18DET. From 91+ the 180SX got the ever so popular SR20DET. From 1991 to 1994 I believe the SR20DET was the "redtop" and is signified by it's red valve cover. In 96-98 the 180SX got new taillights that have round circles on each side. Also in 96 the 180SX got the S13 SR20DET Blacktop. This motor was the exact same as the S13 SR20DET Redtop except the blacktop was just newer. Remember, this is the S13 blacktop. The S14 blacktop is totally different. The silvia was also made on the S13 chassis in japan but only until 93. The S13 silvia is identical to our S13 240SX coupe except it had a different motor and different headlights. The Silvia came in 3 models in the S13 chassis. The Jack, Queen, and King. From 89-91 the Jack and Queen both got the CA18DE. From 91-93 the Jack and Queen both got the SR20DE. From 89-91 the King got the CA18DET. From 91-93 the King got the SR20DET. The SR that came in the S13 silvia's were the redtop SR's. This SR20DET had a T25 turbo

- S14 chassis - 1994-1998 On the S14 chassis, only the silvia was made. There was no 180SX made on the S14 chassis. The S14 Silvia is identical to our S14 240SX except for the motor. The S14 Silvia is like the Jack, Queen and King on the S13 chassis. The Jack and Queen both got the SR20DE while the King got the SR20DET. This SR20DET had a T28 ball bearing turbo

- S15 chassis - 1999- We didn't get the S15 chassis in the USA. The S15 got the newest version of the SR20DET. It also has the T28 ball bearing turbo like the S14. The S15 SR20DET got bigger fuel injectors that were 480 cc/min stepped up from the 370 cc/min injectors of the S13 and S14. The S15 also got a 6 speed transmission, but is said to be weak with drifters due to the thinner gears and break around 350-400 HP. I haven't really seen this proved because the Blitz S15 has about 450 HP and is still using the stock S15 tranny.

The SR20DET fits perfectly and bolts right into the 240SX chassis because it is the same exact chassis in Japan. Check out this site (http://www.srswap.com/html/info/faq_specs.htm) for info on swapping the SR20 into the 240SX chassis. The S15 SR20DET requires a little bit more work than the others but it's still not a massive amount.

I hope this all helped you out a little bit. If you have anymore questions, post them up.

:)

Wow, that was amazing. Thanks for all the info. I do have one more question though, where can I find pics of the 240's? I want stock ones mainly just so I can associate body and stats, but modded ones are nice to. I am probably going to go for the s13 chasis and do the front end conversion to the Silvia, any comments, recommendations or what not? What other options are their front end wise? I like everything about them except the flip up headlights...

Thanks again.

1710 pictures come up when I search 240SX at google images. http://images.google.com/images?q=240SX&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

Here's some pictures of the fronts for you

S13 240SX Fastback, 240SX coupe, and 180SX front end:
http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/240sx-93-t001-fb.jpg

S13 Silvia:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rallycars/bas/015.jpg

S14 240SX and S14 Silvia with oval headlights and slanted headlights:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8799661.jpg
http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5346

S15 Silvia:
http://www.screensavershot.com/automation/silvia.jpg

thanks again man

Your Welcome :)

wow j spec i havne't seen you here in maad long and you come back here with all this info for the needy. very very good man. hahah well heres a beautiful pic of a hatch back S13 with the full type X conversion. i'm startin to like them even better then my S14!!! beautiful~! and just to let you know, thats how they look stock in japan from 94 up.

Originally posted by TatII
wow j spec i havne't seen you here in maad long and you come back here with all this info for the needy. very very good man.

Hehe, yeah I don't come around here as much anymore because I'm always over at 240sxforums. I got tired of getting the message here on AF saying that the server was to busy and to try again later.

One correction.. I beleive there is a mistake with the years on the newer 180SX labeling. The kouki 180SX was brought back due to popular demand from 96-98. I know for sure they stopped production maybe around 94 or so.. and then brought it back because so many people liked the body styling, so NISSAN sold it for another two years.

- Mike

Ok, I came up with yet another question, or two...

How much would it cost to do the body work (get the bumpers, paint, mold?, tail lights, and headlights) to a 180sx, an S13 or an S14?

it would cost the same as any car.for hte S14, the headlights are 250 a piece, then you have to buy the fenders, at anther 250 a piece, then the hood for about 500, then you need the new gril 200, then a new bumper. thats not including paint. for the S13, the change woudln't be as much, they usualy see the whole conversion in a set, but the tailights are expensive, the kouki tail lights can run as high as 600, and then you have to get the center piece thats carbon fiber, thats about another 600.

I dont know what you guys mean by 180SX conversion, S13 or S14.. its not a clear question.

However, the 96-98 180SX tail lights cost $600 (or less). I sell the lights as a complete kit on my site, which comes with the two tail lights, center panel, lower metal finishing panel, locks, keys, butyl rubber, and new nuts. Thats all you need to have these tail lights on your S13 Hatch (240SX or 180SX). Oh, that center panel you referred to is a carbon fiber LOOK.. its really janky, I'de never pay that much for a plastic cover. You can get them in Japan for 100-150.

As for S14, just depends which look you like more. I think both models are nice. The 97-98 looks more aggressive off the bat, but I think the 95-96's has great potential. The GP sports 95-96 S14 (red) looks really nice..

Originally posted by old_s13
One correction.. I beleive there is a mistake with the years on the newer 180SX labeling. The kouki 180SX was brought back due to popular demand from 96-98. I know for sure they stopped production maybe around 94 or so.. and then brought it back because so many people liked the body styling, so NISSAN sold it for another two years.

- Mike

Thanks, fixed it :)