Cobra MAF

Now...how does this work....just rewire and drop in??? will it read the same as the oem??? do you need to redo the ECU??? please explain someone...and where do you place it??? before Turbo or after???

Originally posted by ty423
Now...how does this work....just rewire and drop in??? will it read the same as the oem??? do you need to redo the ECU??? please explain someone...and where do you place it??? before Turbo or after???

You do have to reprogram the ECU to use a Cobra MAF. Whoever says otherwise is a monkey.

The MAF goes before the turbo.

thanks P10DET I can always count on you for good info...

Originally posted by P10DET
You do have to reprogram the ECU to use a Cobra MAF. Whoever says otherwise is a monkey.

Or you need a piggy pack system like a TEC-II or Motec. But those are expensive. Basic Apex-i crap like the AFC.

why you doggin AFC??? I know its cheap but I don't have thousands to spend on the expensive stuff and all that tuning...I just want alittle more power...Anyways thanks for the replies

Originally posted by ty423
why you doggin AFC??? I know its cheap but I don't have thousands to spend on the expensive stuff and all that tuning...I just want alittle more power...Anyways thanks for the replies

Because it's a monkey method of tuning. Owners of some cars have little choice, except to go to a stand alone system.

What are you doing that requires you to use a Cobra MAF? If you are making that much hp, you should already be spending thousands. You don't need a Cobra MAF until you're making over 250 bhp. To do that means you would have to have a $3k+ turbo set-up. If you're spending that much, now is not the time to go cheap on engine management. Get a JWT ECU. They are plug and play.

Those black boxes are "Dial-a-Booms." If you screw something up, you could be in big trouble in a hurry.

I am putting together a turbo kit for myself and read something about the cobra MAF...seems like it was required...and plus Jim Wolf doesn't do the P11 ECU yet...thats what I hear...

Originally posted by ty423
I am putting together a turbo kit for myself and read something about the cobra MAF...seems like it was required...and plus Jim Wolf doesn't do the P11 ECU yet...thats what I hear...

What kind of turbo are you going to run? You won't need a Cobra MAF unless you put more than about 215 to the wheels. That will take a T3 or larger turbo.

JWT can probably hook you up with a 97 ECU and wiring harness. That is what they did for their SEMA B15 turbo.

Originally posted by ty423
why you doggin AFC??? I know its cheap but I don't have thousands to spend on the expensive stuff and all that tuning...I just want alittle more power...Anyways thanks for the replies

Hehe, ;). Didn't mean to offend ya bro. You can get some good results from the AFC. It's not perfect, in fact I'll probably end up with one before I get my turbo. However with a turbo I'll probably go with JWT, even if I have to modify the harness to use the unit. Or the JUN if I can get more info on it. For tuning turbos I still maintain the AFC's and dial-a-booms, as George calls them, are crap. Just my opinion.

yeah its all good...i was just kidding anyways...I am going to get a small turbo...only need to boost 7psi...don't want to do all the crazy stuff... anyways can I use a s13 or s14 manifold and turbo for my car??? please let me know...I am about to buy one...

Originally posted by ty423
yeah its all good...i was just kidding anyways...I am going to get a small turbo...only need to boost 7psi...don't want to do all the crazy stuff... anyways can I use a s13 or s14 manifold and turbo for my car??? please let me know...I am about to buy one...

I don't believe you can use the S13 or S14 DET manifold. IIRC there is a problem with turbo placement and clearance. I'm not 100% sure about this, but some time spent searching the SE-R Mailing List archives would be time well spent. I know this has been discussed there and I seem to recall Mike Kojima addressing this issue. You might have to be patient in searching, but I'm 99% certain it was discussed.

While on the subject of ECUs, I've noticed that no-one in the US ever mentions the Dastek Unichip piggy-back computer. Is there a reason?, are they expensive there? Are the a POS? They claim that if you are not satisfied within 3 months they'll refund your money including installation and mapping costs. From what I've read they are a great concept and their site lists over 20 suppliers in CA alone. Heres a link to Dastek's Unichip homepage
http://www.dastek.co.za/

Originally posted by T4 Primera
While on the subject of ECUs, I've noticed that no-one in the US ever mentions the Dastek Unichip piggy-back computer. Is there a reason?

I don't think they are imported here. I've never seen them advertised or mentioned.

Originally posted by P10DET


I don't think they are imported here. I've never seen them advertised or mentioned.
I think it's a franchise thing cause they have to be dynoed to each individual car.
List of US dealers here http://www.dastek.co.za/us_dealer_list.htm

There are 7 in Texas and the following 2 in Houston.

Hocus Pocus Houston TX 281-530-2206 [email protected]
www.hocuspocus.org

Hou-Tek Vehicle Dynamics Houston TX 713-464-0053 [email protected]

A bit more tech about it here http://www.dastek.co.za/unichip_dealership.htm

Originally posted by T4 Primera
I think it's a franchise thing cause they have to be dynoed to each individual car.
List of US dealers here http://www.dastek.co.za/us_dealer_list.htm

There are 7 in Texas and the following 2 in Houston.

Hocus Pocus Houston TX 281-530-2206 [email protected]
www.hocuspocus.org

Hou-Tek Vehicle Dynamics Houston TX 713-464-0053 [email protected]


Wow. I'm not familiar with Hou-Tek, but I am with Hocus Pocus. Interesting. I can't tell you why no one seems to use them then.

There is a guy here in Toronto that supposedly does the Unichip. I was going to try it out but they guy never got back to me. He had to check if they had an adapter for the G20. I probably scared him off because it wasn't a honda. :D