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TCC rocker interrupt switch...which wire is power?


shiftlessatol
08-10-2007, 10:44 PM
i'm trying to run a rocker switch for my lock-up torque converter for a 92 grand am 2.3 SOC...i can't tell which of the four wires powers the valve to signal for the hydraulics to lock up... my car is doing what every other grand am does... it locks and won't unlock when it's hot... i want to run a rocker switch so i can use it on long drives but turn it off when in the city preventing the amount of time it has to lock up and stick... if anyone can tell me which wires do what, mainly which of the four wires provide the main power to the valve, that would be so awesome...

maxwedge
08-11-2007, 09:08 AM
Welcome to AF. When it sticks cutting the power will not work, it sticks, you must disconnect it permanantly or fix it.

shiftlessatol
08-11-2007, 11:14 AM
thank you max for reply: "When it sticks cutting the power will not work, it sticks, you must disconnect it permanantly or fix it." the only thing here is if what you say is true then disconnecting it would be useless too, but it's not, when it locks up i unplug it and it unlocks. so if it sticks regardless then even unplugging it would leave it stuck according to what you say, but it's not. if i can interrupt the power then it will serve the same as "disconnected" so long as the switch is off... this is what i'm trying to achieve, but i have no way of knowing which wire powers the valve.

xeroinfinity
08-11-2007, 11:35 AM
You could just unplug it permenantly and that'll fix it.
Or just fix it as Max stated.

Here is the procedure for replacing the TCC....
How To Replace Your Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid (http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doityourself/l/aa011703b.htm)

shiftlessatol
08-11-2007, 11:53 AM
You could just unplug it permenantly and that'll fix it.
Or just fix it as Max stated.

ture this won't "fix it" but it will prevent it from ever locking up again on account of it will never engage... i know that what i'm trying to do won't fix the problem but my tcc works fine until it gets overworked from the hills and the city, unlocking and locking constantly gets it hot and then it sticks, i want to use it for long higher milaged, constant speed trips to save on some gas... if i can engaged it when i want it and then disengage before i want to stop then it will reduce the amount of lock up and stick... i know that fixing it or unplugging it would prevent any problem, i understand this, i just don't want to spend an entire day hooking a test light up to the plug and driving 50 MPH to see which one gives the signal for the vavle to engage... that's why i registered and started this thread, not neccessarily to discover how it can be solved or fixed, this has been posted in other threads, i don't need to know this, all i need to know is which wires do what on the plug...that's what i'm searching for. thank you for the advice and the link though, it's very helpful in replacement, but i'm not looking to replace the part just yet...

xeroinfinity
08-11-2007, 12:01 PM
What you are attempting to do will NOT work anyway :grinno:

Second all you need is a manual with a wire diagram, which I personly dont have one available for that year.
OK the ZONE sucks ! they dont even list a 92 grand ams :banghead:

IMO with the time wasted you could have replaced the TCC.
Its like $15-20 and a days work.
Does that link about show the wires and plug in ?
They might have what you need....

Good Hunting !

shiftlessatol
08-11-2007, 09:32 PM
What you are attempting to do will NOT work anyway :grinno:

Second all you need is a manual with a wire diagram, which I personly dont have one available for that year.
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Does that link about show the wires and plug in ?
They might have what you need....


thank you so so much for your effort in helping, if you or anyone you know has access to a manual or in the least where to find one that would be good, i could probably take it to a shop and pay a good few hundred dollars to fix it, i don't have the tools or the time to do it myself... my dad works for o'reilly's and i can access them but i don't live with him nor do i get to see him all that much plus i work, overall it's not worth it just to have a few extra MPG but if i could flip a switch on long trips it would be. i know that it's not going to be the best and that it will probably still stick some, but it won't be running all the time. and that link was awesome, very good info but nothing on the wireing just step by step install of the solenoid. thanks again you've been a great help.

xeroinfinity
08-12-2007, 11:03 AM
Well your idea with the switch was a good one.

But the problem is with the TCC not working right.
Sso even with a switch to engauge/disengauge ,
it wont work since the TCC isnt workin right to begin with.

Glad to help !

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