lowing an accord
JonB91
08-09-2007, 07:28 PM
hey guys i just got a 06 accord ex v6 2dr and im looking for some help with lowering it
Its my first car so im not that experience with lowering companies so some help would be apprieciated
Are there a surefire company that makes lowering stuff perfect for accords.
what should i do to the car, ie how low more in the front than the back to get rid of the "boat" thing ex. i think there are 17" on the car, whatever stock is
i just want to get rid of the gap between the car and wheels and make it feel like a little lower ride and like im not riding "on top" of the car
like i said it is my first car and the lowering doesnt have to happen right now at least until after i figure out the manual lol i just wnat some info
Its my first car so im not that experience with lowering companies so some help would be apprieciated
Are there a surefire company that makes lowering stuff perfect for accords.
what should i do to the car, ie how low more in the front than the back to get rid of the "boat" thing ex. i think there are 17" on the car, whatever stock is
i just want to get rid of the gap between the car and wheels and make it feel like a little lower ride and like im not riding "on top" of the car
like i said it is my first car and the lowering doesnt have to happen right now at least until after i figure out the manual lol i just wnat some info
00accord44
08-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Dizamn, you got that car quick :eek: :wink:
Check out Eibach, Tanabe, H&R, and Koni if you want lowering springs. If you want a full coilover setup I suggest Tein which is a little pricey but worth it if you don't want problems in the future. You may have some trouble finding springs or kits for the 7th gen Accord but theres some out there.
If you go for springs, be prepared for a bumpy and lofty ride. You can correct for this somewhat by getting shorter shocks. Yet another reason I suggest a full coilover setup to handle it all at once with parts mated to one another
Check out Eibach, Tanabe, H&R, and Koni if you want lowering springs. If you want a full coilover setup I suggest Tein which is a little pricey but worth it if you don't want problems in the future. You may have some trouble finding springs or kits for the 7th gen Accord but theres some out there.
If you go for springs, be prepared for a bumpy and lofty ride. You can correct for this somewhat by getting shorter shocks. Yet another reason I suggest a full coilover setup to handle it all at once with parts mated to one another
JonB91
08-09-2007, 07:48 PM
lol yeah my dad and i decided that i wasnt going to find anything much better than an accord and if i did i would be paying more for it lol, and i didnt want someone else to buy it lol
so you would sugest the full coilover set, around 700 right. can you tell me the difference between the coilover and plain lowering springs
here is the main question i guess,
lowering kit: what company, how many inches, price, disadvantages
full coilover: diff from kit, company, inches, price, advantages
lol thanx for all the help man
edit: i forgot to mention that i dont really want to ajust them, ive read elsewhere that it is a better idea to get the lowering springs and shocks if you dont want to ajust, true?
so you would sugest the full coilover set, around 700 right. can you tell me the difference between the coilover and plain lowering springs
here is the main question i guess,
lowering kit: what company, how many inches, price, disadvantages
full coilover: diff from kit, company, inches, price, advantages
lol thanx for all the help man
edit: i forgot to mention that i dont really want to ajust them, ive read elsewhere that it is a better idea to get the lowering springs and shocks if you dont want to ajust, true?
00accord44
08-09-2007, 09:54 PM
You definitely don't need fully adjustable coilovers but height adjustable sets are good if you live in an area where you may need to raise the car to clear snow in the winter. This is a must here in chicago, probably not so much in NC.
A coilover set should run you 600-800. I got my Tein set online for $725 which was pretty good. Check out the Suspension FAQ (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=494189) thread. It gives a good overview of benefits/drawbacks of different setups. However it concentrates mostly on more moderate drops (0-2"). My kit drops 2"+ front and back so my situation is a bit different. I really should have a camber kit but I haven't been running through tires fast as I thought I would so I haven't got one yet.
I think you'd be good with a 1.25-1.75" drop. I went for the full slam
These are pics of my car as it sits now which is about .25" higher than it lowest point in front and .5" higher in back
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254324_1860.jpg
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/21021401410.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3120867)
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/21021341690.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3120834)
A coilover set should run you 600-800. I got my Tein set online for $725 which was pretty good. Check out the Suspension FAQ (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=494189) thread. It gives a good overview of benefits/drawbacks of different setups. However it concentrates mostly on more moderate drops (0-2"). My kit drops 2"+ front and back so my situation is a bit different. I really should have a camber kit but I haven't been running through tires fast as I thought I would so I haven't got one yet.
I think you'd be good with a 1.25-1.75" drop. I went for the full slam
These are pics of my car as it sits now which is about .25" higher than it lowest point in front and .5" higher in back
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254324_1860.jpg
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/21021401410.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3120867)
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/21021341690.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3120834)
JonB91
08-09-2007, 10:05 PM
yeah im only looking for a moderate drop not because of snow but because of a damn railroad that i have to go over everyday, its like road goes right into a straight 60 degree hill lol im not even sure i can make it over stock lol
so you think that a coilover for 700 and some change are a better bet than say
H&R Sport Springs w/ Tokico HP Shocks, not those exact companies but you get the idea.
Which would shops have an easier time fixing, maintaining, will either f**k up the warrenty
so you think that a coilover for 700 and some change are a better bet than say
H&R Sport Springs w/ Tokico HP Shocks, not those exact companies but you get the idea.
Which would shops have an easier time fixing, maintaining, will either f**k up the warrenty
JonB91
08-09-2007, 10:53 PM
here is a picture of the new car lol, kinda dirty and in the crappy garage
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424612.jpg
here is a picture to show the gap distance and such
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424788.jpg
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424647.jpg
i know alot of picture but i have one more question about the paint
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424637.jpg
look at the sparkles in the paint, does the factory paint job have these, i ask this beacsue there is a small spot on the back of the car that i think i can see the metal through the paint but it is sorta smooth but i dont know, and there is a spot that has paint drip. the carfax thing said there was a small fender bender on the car but was able to drive away so it wasnt too but but i think along with replacing the bumper the owner might have repainted the whole car but im not sure
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424612.jpg
here is a picture to show the gap distance and such
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424788.jpg
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424647.jpg
i know alot of picture but i have one more question about the paint
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/22023424637.jpg
look at the sparkles in the paint, does the factory paint job have these, i ask this beacsue there is a small spot on the back of the car that i think i can see the metal through the paint but it is sorta smooth but i dont know, and there is a spot that has paint drip. the carfax thing said there was a small fender bender on the car but was able to drive away so it wasnt too but but i think along with replacing the bumper the owner might have repainted the whole car but im not sure
00accord44
08-09-2007, 10:58 PM
The Tein set was a better investment for me because I needed adjustability and I previously had lowering springs for a 2.5" drop that had me bouncing all over the road and I knew I did NOT want to bounce anymore :shakehead:
Using a spring/shock combo from any reputable brand will be good for a moderate drop, choosing which brand is up to you. Doing pretty much anything will void your warranty if they find out about it. If you come in with a suspension related problem they definitely aren't covering it once they see you have suspension mods. There's not much maintenance to be done to your suspension unless something goes wrong. Any shop that can install suspension components should be able to handle any subsequent repairs.
Using a spring/shock combo from any reputable brand will be good for a moderate drop, choosing which brand is up to you. Doing pretty much anything will void your warranty if they find out about it. If you come in with a suspension related problem they definitely aren't covering it once they see you have suspension mods. There's not much maintenance to be done to your suspension unless something goes wrong. Any shop that can install suspension components should be able to handle any subsequent repairs.
00accord44
08-09-2007, 11:01 PM
The metal flakes are normal. I doubt the prev owner repainted the whole car after a fender bender. My car was in a front end accident and the bumper had to be replaced. They did a good job of color matching the paint.
That wheel gap definitely needs to be closed some but thats a nice ride. Black on black is a good look on any vehicle.
That wheel gap definitely needs to be closed some but thats a nice ride. Black on black is a good look on any vehicle.
JonB91
08-09-2007, 11:09 PM
yeah i kinda figured that, is it normal to have some paint run on a factory paintjob, and what about the little rust spot (i think) just screw it its nothing big?
yeah it def needs to be shortened a little lol i can fit my whole hand in it lol, you thin about 1.5 to 1.7,
and a more important question, do you know what if any distance i should have the front droped more than the back so its not higher?
yeah it def needs to be shortened a little lol i can fit my whole hand in it lol, you thin about 1.5 to 1.7,
and a more important question, do you know what if any distance i should have the front droped more than the back so its not higher?
00accord44
08-09-2007, 11:15 PM
Most times the front will be lowered more than the back but you can sorta judge how far you wana drop each by measuring with a ruler from the top of the tire to the edge of the fender front and back to see how far you think each should go. When my car is at its lowest, the front tires almost tuck under the front fenders and the back sits just a little below.
As for the paint, there shouldn't be any rust on a car that new. Where is it? If its on the bumper that was replaced then thats the result of a poor finish on their paint job. Same for the paint runs. But I personally have never seen a run or early rust on a factory honda paint job.
As for the paint, there shouldn't be any rust on a car that new. Where is it? If its on the bumper that was replaced then thats the result of a poor finish on their paint job. Same for the paint runs. But I personally have never seen a run or early rust on a factory honda paint job.
JonB91
08-09-2007, 11:24 PM
yeah i just tried to take a picture of it but it wouldnt pick it up so ill try to describe it to it you:
when it was out in the sun it has a small grey black dot surounded by a shiny clearish color, kinda like a fish scale around it then the normal paint, this is on the trunk lid,
the paint drip is on the side panel on the right side, the paint drip is like 4 inches long and it has two of them, clearly paintdrips though
does that sound like a rust spot, whatever it is it isnt right
and its COVERED in water spots do you know how to get them out lol
when it was out in the sun it has a small grey black dot surounded by a shiny clearish color, kinda like a fish scale around it then the normal paint, this is on the trunk lid,
the paint drip is on the side panel on the right side, the paint drip is like 4 inches long and it has two of them, clearly paintdrips though
does that sound like a rust spot, whatever it is it isnt right
and its COVERED in water spots do you know how to get them out lol
00accord44
08-09-2007, 11:51 PM
I dunno bout that dot. Maybe something dripped on there and ate away at the paint a bit. Only thing I can suggest is getting some Mother's or Meguiar's paint finish restorer and see if that will help :dunno:
JonB91
08-09-2007, 11:58 PM
i was reading through the FAQ
"Why? Because if u don’t drop more than 1.75 inches with a moderate spring rate(ex. Eibach pro kit, tein s-tech) you usually don’t need to change your shocks unless they are really old.tough i would recomende changing them while you have everything off the car."
so do i keep the OEM shocks or replace them??
"Why? Because if u don’t drop more than 1.75 inches with a moderate spring rate(ex. Eibach pro kit, tein s-tech) you usually don’t need to change your shocks unless they are really old.tough i would recomende changing them while you have everything off the car."
so do i keep the OEM shocks or replace them??
00accord44
08-10-2007, 12:11 AM
You can keep the oem shocks and you should be fine. Like I said before, I dropped 2"+ so I needed shorter shocks to compensate. before when I just had springs, my 2" drop had me bouncing all over the road. With less of a drop the bouncing shouldn't be nearly as bad as mine was. The ride will just be a little harsher than it is now since the shorter springs aren't traveling as far as the oem shocks allow.
JonB91
08-10-2007, 12:15 AM
how much worse, is it worth the couple hundred extra to get now shocks, that bad
do you have any recomendations for good springs for like 1.5 - 1.7 inch lowering?
do you have any recomendations for good springs for like 1.5 - 1.7 inch lowering?
00accord44
08-10-2007, 12:24 AM
Nothing horrible. Mine were way harsher and I lived with em for about a year. It was the bouncing that I couldn't stand which was because of the extreme drop on stock shocks. For springs, I would reccommend Eibach Sportline, Tokicko Illumina, or Tein S-Tech
JonB91
08-10-2007, 12:32 AM
Bring it to a body shop to install right? for the eibach springs it says for 06 it fits 4cyl. and for 05 it fits the v6 should there be any diff. between 06 and 05 ??
alright ill keep you updated on this, i dont know when all this stuff is going to happen im just trying to get all my info straight and how much money i will need, and then decide what parts i want first : ) , (rims, drop, cai, interior, body, spoiler, thats about as far as im going i think, im gona save for a project car in a couple years)
anyways thanx a TON for all you help ill keep you posted
alright ill keep you updated on this, i dont know when all this stuff is going to happen im just trying to get all my info straight and how much money i will need, and then decide what parts i want first : ) , (rims, drop, cai, interior, body, spoiler, thats about as far as im going i think, im gona save for a project car in a couple years)
anyways thanx a TON for all you help ill keep you posted
00accord44
08-10-2007, 01:12 AM
A body shop may or may not be willing to install your suspension but most brake shops do suspension as well and will put it in for you. I know Car-X does suspensions, I'm not sure what other national chains do it as well. I guess Pep Boys does if you trust them which I do not. Any good general mechanic should be able to handle it.
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