Evo VII WIP

I'm readying this sketch to explore and (hopefully) advance my PS skills a little further...

BG

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/219/a/7/EvoEvil_by_tincap.jpg

It's looking great perspective wise. Lines are nice and clean too. It'll be interesting to see this one develop.

JK

Nice the EVO looks super Fly man good job

Very nice. Like the FMIC with piping .

Very clean, looking forward to seeing it progress.

looks great cant wait to see some kolor on it

Excellent lines and detail... a lot oftime into this piece. Looking forward to the colorization. Robo

The lines look really good. I bet the finished product's gonna look great. :D

i agree. the finished produkt is gonna b sweet. sooooooo have u done n-e thing to it yet?

i agree. the finished produkt is gonna b sweet. sooooooo have u done n-e thing to it yet?

LOL! Sorry, not yet. I'm neck deep in my 'real job' at the moment, plus preping our 160 year old house for another long Canadian winter.....

I have knocked off a couple more line drawings, but I really have to put my thinking cap on when I'm messing around with PS.

BG

Finally, been able to apply colour to this puppy...

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/284/1/5/EvilEvo777_by_tincap.jpg

Always looking forward to your comments (still planning to tweak the others based on your valuable responses...when I've got some free time. LOL!) !

BG

The front's decent, a few things are out of perspective but that's ok, the back and the side on the other hand, and the rims look wierd to me.

The front's decent, a few things are out of perspective but that's ok, the back and the side on the other hand, and the rims look wierd to me.

LOL, I guess that's what I get for doing a trace off.

How about the PS stuff?

BG

The 1st thing that came 2 my mind. Was, Stout. looks compacted 2 me. does that make sense? am i kooky or what? ur 1st post of this was spectacular. I was blown away. as for the coloring and newest post. i dunno. i gotta get back to this.

It's "ok" not great and not bad, like in the middle, what did you do in PS?

It's "ok" not great and not bad, like in the middle, what did you do in PS?

I see your point regarding the wheels, both the front and rear...this is why I post these things up. Better you guys finding it, than an AD somewhere.

As far as PS goes, I used it for the colour....

BG

Now for me, I looked at it more from the CAR-toony side,
and liked the slight exaggeration to the shape.
Nice overall layout design too.

OK, I've revised the wheels and pulled the side skirt forward a bit. Top pic is the old version for comparison. Comments welcome!

BG

OLD:
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/219/a/7/EvoEvil_by_tincap.jpg


REVISED:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/Tincap1959/LancerEvo7xCLRModhalf.jpg

Lookin' better, maybe make the side a bit darker so we can see the details, also on top of the front tire that thing goes back a bit too far, try moving it up a little.

Also the front looks a lot more realistic than the rest in the PS pic, try making it all even.

Lookin' better, maybe make the side a bit darker so we can see the details, also on top of the front tire that thing goes back a bit too far, try moving it up a little.

Also the front looks a lot more realistic than the rest in the PS pic, try making it all even.

Uuuuuuh...I'm not sure what you're on about. Can you be a little more specific?

BG

1) Ok that lip thing on top of the front tire is a bit to far back, cut it short a little.
2) Draw in the side details a bit darker in the drawn one so it looks nicer.
3) Part of the stuff on PS, all but the front end, look a bit more fake and the front looks more realistic, trying making them all at the same level.

i) that's what the wheel arch looks like on that car
ii) why would he need t draw it in darker if it isn't supposed to be darker?
iii) you obviously missed that it is intentially faded towards the rear.

i) that's what the wheel arch looks like on that car
ii) why would he need t draw it in darker if it isn't supposed to be darker?
iii) you obviously missed that it is intentially faded towards the rear.

1) He changed the angle and size of the front tire and rim so that should have changed a bit also.
2) When he painted it on PS a lot of the details went away, if he left it just in pencil it looks fine.
3) I'm not talking about the fading, I'm talking about in the PS picture it looks a lot more realistic in the front and that he took time on it and the rest looks a lot more cartoonish, unless that's what he's going for than sorry.

200th Post, WOOT!

let's try again.

i) what do you mean lip thing?
if you're talking about the wheel arch then I'll repeat myself, it's what the real car looks like. If not the wheel arch, then I have ni idea what you're talking about.

ii) details went away? like what? It all looks there to me.

iii) again, you have missed that the rear of the car is deliberately faded. Notice that the rear tyre has little to no colour (black) applied to it. Notice that the rear of the car is dading to white. Notice that the lines get fainter and more broken.

let's try again.

i) what do you mean lip thing?
if you're talking about the wheel arch then I'll repeat myself, it's what the real car looks like. If not the wheel arch, then I have ni idea what you're talking about.

ii) details went away? like what? It all looks there to me.

iii) again, you have missed that the rear of the car is deliberately faded. Notice that the rear tyre has little to no colour (black) applied to it. Notice that the rear of the car is dading to white. Notice that the lines get fainter and more broken.

Once more:

1) The Wheel Arch, like the chrome looking thing on top of it like old Cadillacs and stuff have, when he edited the rim and the tires that one should have been edited too to make it all even.

2) Like some of the stuff looked like it blended in and you couldn't see it as much.

3) I don't mean faded, i mean like from the hood to the windshield it's a big difference, the hood and front look sooo realistic in the PS with the color but the rest from the windshield and back look a lot more fake.

i'm going to stop now because
i) i still have no idea what you're talking about
ii) i still have no idea what you're talking about
iii) i still have no idea what you're talking about

and a new one this

iv) it's coming up to 3am and I've got to go design a building tomorrow.

perhaps you should do one of these and explain what you're talking about in your drawing/photoshop colouring/rendering.

in the meantime, to the OP.
I think the little kink on the side bodywork would look better if you apply a bit of a highlight to the outside edge. As it is, it's a bit flat. You might want to exaggerate the colour/tone/shadow/highlight differences of that part of the bodywork and see if it detracts or distracts too much.
How about putting some brake detail into those wheels. The spokes are quite open and you'd be able to see something in there normally.

1) He changed the angle and size of the front tire and rim so that should have changed a bit also.
2) When he painted it on PS a lot of the details went away, if he left it just in pencil it looks fine.
3) I'm not talking about the fading, I'm talking about in the PS picture it looks a lot more realistic in the front and that he took time on it and the rest looks a lot more cartoonish, unless that's what he's going for than sorry.

200th Post, WOOT!

Jeez, you guys are fighting over me...? :eek:

Dboy23, all of your (current) suggestions appear to be a matter of style and not of a technical nature.

Although I accept constructive criticism, in the areas of drawing and PS tips, I obviously can't be swayed to & fro by people's personal tastes.

I also respect the constructive criticism of my peers who post their work here, so I can take stock in the value of their comments. Since you do not have anything posted in this thread, I'm sorry, but it's difficult for me to guage the value your opinion.

Thanks.

BG

I'm not really into drawing, I'm more of a Photoshop person, like Graphic Manipulation, but I mean I know what looks good, and I'm pretty sure you and Drunken both know better than me but I just thought I'd put my two cents in.

Just one last thing then, the back rim looks just a tad bit slanted, idk if that's what your going for but it looks a bit tilted to me.

I'm not really into drawing, I'm more of a Photoshop person, like Graphic Manipulation, but I mean I know what looks good, and I'm pretty sure you and Drunken both know better than me but I just thought I'd put my two cents in.

Just one last thing then, the back rim looks just a tad bit slanted, idk if that's what your going for but it looks a bit tilted to me.

That's OK, Db, perhaps I'd be able to call on your PS skills, but since we're all visual here, words don't always cut it...

And ya, I've decided to throw a little negative camber in, when I revised the rear wheel.

Monkey, thanks man, I'll incorporate your suggestions...I'll see how far I can carry on, before my next batch of my 'real work' comes in. :smokin:

BG

Uh...I think the outline is awesome as itself. As for the fender arch, it looks fine to me. The sideskirts are immaculate and the rest of the car lining is great. Keep it up!.

Uh...I think the outline is awesome as itself. As for the fender arch, it looks fine to me. The sideskirts are immaculate and the rest of the car lining is great. Keep it up!.
I Agree

I Agree

yeah me too, have any new updates?

yeah me too, have any new updates?

I have been reworking things, but I'm cooked for the day...

I'll be following Drunken Monkey's suggestions and will indicate brakes beyond the spokes on the front rim...hmmmm, shall I play with 4 or 6 pots for the rotors? :D

BG

^Why not go for 6 pot? I'm pretty it ain't that expensive to draw one. :)

IT look nice

OMG!!!!
THATS AMAZING
quastion: did u draw this by looking at a picture and trying to draw the car in a diffrent angle or prespective or di you just draw it in the same prespective making it look exactly like the picture.
But that looks soo cool
i wish i could draw like that

Cheers ___ARYANENZO___

OMG!!!!
THATS AMAZING
quastion: did u draw this by looking at a picture and trying to draw the car in a diffrent angle or prespective or di you just draw it in the same prespective making it look exactly like the picture.
But that looks soo cool
i wish i could draw like that

Cheers ___ARYANENZO___

Thanks!

I guess one could call it a partial trace off.

I've based it on an image of a stock Evo VII, then modified the front end, side skirt/diffuser, wheels, added the wing, fender lip, etc.

Lots of stuff I can design right out of my head, but drawings like these I use to expand on my PS learning curve. :)

BG

yeah same story with me..
EXCEPT I SUCK!!!!:banghead:

Thanks!

I guess one could call it a partial trace off.

I've based it on an image of a stock Evo VII, then modified the front end, side skirt/diffuser, wheels, added the wing, fender lip, etc.

Lots of stuff I can design right out of my head, but drawings like these I use to expand on my PS learning curve. :)

BGSo you trace part of the car then, right?:confused:

So you trace part of the car then, right?:confused:
I think thats what he's sayin. But I d like him to explain it in detail. lol

That is great. Tracing definitely helps you learn the curves and dimensions of a car. That's how I started 10 years ago. Sometimes I go back, but I tend to pull away from it now. Never did like making grids to start a drawing. Too much work and erasing. Most of my stuff are freehanded now. :) I also design bodykits for my cars. Like this one.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Chaser-Full.jpg

ok, did u TRACE it or were you just looking at it and drawing what you saw?
im sorry for these nooby quastions..

Yeah, up she goes.

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2007/342/b/9/Revised_EVO_VII_by_tincap.jpg

And to answer the question, it was a partial trace, of a stock Evo VII base, from which I added things such as the wheels, skirts, FMIC, dam, lip, etc, etc...

BG

I dont know why, but i love your drawings, they just dont seem as "wow" when youve put them in PS. Cant put my finger on why though

I dont know why, but i love your drawings, they just dont seem as "wow" when youve put them in PS. Cant put my finger on why though

Although I feel that I am progressing, I'm hoping you (and others) COULD put your finger on it, to help me improve my PS skills, as I'm still fairly new in doing any colour...PS or not.

Which is why I post my images here for your critique! :smokin:

I do have a bit of a break until my next project, so I'll be pulling out the Ryan Church DVDs, however, I'm really concentrating on fast, loose, non-automotive sketches for my portfolio....

BG

Your lose sketches work great on paper but to me they just don't work so well with the smoothness of the PS coloring. Because the way i see it now it's neither a drawing nor a digital painting. Maybe it helps if you do the linework in PS too.

JK

Your lose sketches work great on paper but to me they just don't work so well with the smoothness of the PS coloring. Because the way i see it now it's neither a drawing nor a digital painting. Maybe it helps if you do the linework in PS too.

JK

Ya, that's been the battle for me, to get the PS work to look nice and lose like the sketches...however, I end up getting lost in my-self and get too tight with the PS.

As far as doing the line work in PS (or other platform), as a designer I'd rather leave that to those who enjoy rendering or perhaps the vector guys, because it will take me a couple of years yet, before I reach knock-your-socks-off rendering levels.

BG

Although I feel that I am progressing, I'm hoping you (and others) COULD put your finger on it, to help me improve my PS skills, as I'm still fairly new in doing any colour...PS or not.

Which is why I post my images here for your critique! :smokin:

I do have a bit of a break until my next project, so I'll be pulling out the Ryan Church DVDs, however, I'm really concentrating on fast, loose, non-automotive sketches for my portfolio....

BG
Right, i think ive figured it out.
As long as its ok, im gonna print off your line work, and do what i think the shading could be, to compare it to your Vector. Gimme the workd, and ill make it happen.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3489/tutorial011zy8.jpg

I hope by that scan you can see how the colors and the car work together. if you have any problems PM me, as i dont have much time right now.

wow

I haven't been here in a long while

you're doing really good

nice to see the improvement...pretty impressive

Latest. Notice that I'm still calling this thread a WIP, eh? :icon16:

When I first took a look at "nicecar's" edit, I thought, "What the...". But, I'm open and found that there's gold in the rough.

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/348/b/c/Evo_VII_Revised2_by_tincap.jpg

Comments welcome, as always.

BG

Yes man, thats much better. you see how reflections and things bring the car to life? Without that, its just a flat color without lights. Trust me, the scan made my coloring look bad, i'd post up a pic but it looks like youve got it nailed

The initial line work was absolutley beautiful

However, the PS work hardly does it justice
I feel the ps work is a little to soft and looks a little too brushed. Ive seen some very good tutorials out there describing how to use the dodge tool with the right selections and the results are really clean. You've got the line work down though

Are you using tracing paper? and is the blue in the line work just an indigo blue pencil? i was wondering why there is just a hint of blue in the linework

I agree with 1986. You pulled off a great mechanical drawing. But it is really tough to paint the hi-lites out of your head. I find the best way to do those complicated reflections and shadows realistically is to work with a picture reference. Great changes though. The last one is the best.