dog or wuss?

i want some opinions, as this part of the forum is crowded by so many :). so idk or idc if its in the wrong section. just want to know.

lately, i've been the guy that lives at the party house, but arrive home when almost everyone is wasted or tired as hell already. now, my roommates claim the really hot but drunk girl is always mine, since i always bring food from work for the house.

sure, i get a little convo, some cocky funny, get some kino, and next thing we are dry humping to music. i could go further, but i choose not to. but this is where my real question comes.

is going any further losing respect or pride? i mean, its like they are completly drunk, and know what they want, but is it right to take the advantage of them? i've done it once, and personally, i dont think its right. and i dont plan on doing it again, unless i was the one that got them drunk in the first place with me.

what do you guys think?

Think about - she's drunk, you take advantage, she files rape charges....

Does that help you in your moral dilemma?

It's wrong. She's intoxicated, and thus her senses and decision making is compromised.

In short: Its not right.

There really shouldn't be a question here as it's obvious what the "right" thing is. The fact that you made a thread questioning it, even though you've stated your position is well, worrying. If the thought hadn't entered your mind, this thread wouldn't be here.

In any case, I wouldn't touch any "hot" girl with a 6 ft pole if she regularly gets that drunk and in that situation.

I think it's rape if she's intoxicated...hopefully that helps

sounds like duke lacross waiting to happen again...

^i wouldnt quite say that. this is what seems to happen most at the 'parties' at my university. so i was just givin a good ask. most of these girls that are 'mine', are girls i already know from classes or from just being around campus.

its kinda like they know their name, but they can bearly walk does that help?

nothing is forced, but i was just wondering.

ask if it's ok b4 she gets drunk :thumbsup:

^i wouldnt quite say that. this is what seems to happen most at the 'parties' at my university. so i was just givin a good ask. most of these girls that are 'mine', are girls i already know from classes or from just being around campus.

its kinda like they know their name, but they can bearly walk does that help?

nothing is forced, but i was just wondering.

It doesn't matter if it's forced...if she can't think rationally then she can't really give consent. It doesn't matter if it "seems to happen at the parties". Rape is rape.

it depends on how drunk they are. people drink alcohol at parties for the sole purpose of lowering their inhibitions. if she's with it enough to dance and converse with you, and she then gives consent, i say do it. that's the whole point of a party. if you're not gonna try to get some you might as well just go to a sausage party then you don't have to worry about it.

She's gonna get it from someone, might as well be you.

If she's standing, coherent, aware of what's going on, and confirms that it's what she wants, and tries to jump you..well, just hit that shit like a baby seal.

If she can hardly walk or talk, then give her your bed and sleep on the couch.

If she's standing, coherent, aware of what's going on, and confirms that it's what she wants, and tries to jump you..well, just hit that shit like a baby seal.

If she can hardly walk or talk, then give her your bed and sleep on the couch.

very well said.. haha

If she's standing, coherent, aware of what's going on, and confirms that it's what she wants, and tries to jump you..well, just hit that shit like a baby seal.

If she can hardly walk or talk, then give her your bed and sleep on the couch.


Well said...:wink:

Forgot to add "no matter how hot she is, how horny she appears to be or how drunk you are" to the second line of my post.

the whole reason i ask this is beacuse of that article, that came out saying about girls giving concent when they are drunk. since it is about if they are drunk and give consent, they can still take you to court...

thats all i was worrrying about. idk. but w/e.

the way i do it is that if i can tell she's drunk, then she's too drunk for me. basicly if i'm completely wasted, i don't really care, if i can see that she's drunk then i'm not drunk enough to hit it.

now that's just my stand on it, if you don't feel guilty doing it, then who am i to tell you what to do. if she's offering it, then i'd say that's consent. if she's too drunk to know what she's doing, then that's her own fault for drinking too much.

Think about - she's drunk, you take advantage, she files rape charges....

Does that help you in your moral dilemma?
Very excellent point Ray!:sunglasse :sunglasse

I'm gonna go against the grain on this..because I pretty much always go against the grain, but with reasons. Keep in mind, this has nothing to do deciding whether or not to have sex with her. It was her idea to drink with your friends, it is not partially her responsibility but all of her responsibility to watch what she drinks. I think if rufies weren't used against her, she should be conscious, or atleast make up her mind about what she's doing, especially BEFORE she drinks.

Some women here might be saying, if she's too drunk to have a normal conversation without having her hands all over you, she's obviously severely impaired and you should help her get home...oh? What happened to the idealistic notion of men and women being treated as equals? If it was a guy in that position, they would crash on the home owner's couch, in most cases. Why should it be special with a female?

Some of you women might be saying, leave that drunk $#$^ alone to rot...you are cold...very cold, but it brings me back to THIS point, I think it's up to her more then it's up to you!

*thread goes wild in outrage*

i completely agree, it's her fault, assuming no drugs were used without her knowledge, if she gets very impared and does stuff she wouldn't normally do.

my personal stance about it is that i won't do a chick who i know is drunker than me. makes me feel dirty, i've turned down girls in the past because of it, it just doesn't feel right to me.

just have a few drinks yourself, get drunk. Once you're drunk as well you are in no position to be making these type of decisions. So hit it.






haha j/k you know what you should do. Its not that difficult to determine when someone wants it or not and its also not that difficult to determine when someone is in no condition to be making that type of decision.

well, it doesnt really bother me that much, except that i know a couple of girls that have given consent, and called it rape, and basically got them to be married, or they sued......


yea....that isnt the best thing to learn. go figure.

Id make her sign a form saying shes coherent enough to make rational decisions if youre real worried about getting in trouble

Take the cellphone out and video her going YEAH GIVE IT TO ME BABY IM NOT THAT WASTED WOOOOOOOO GO YANKEES. You're golden after that is shown in court.

Take the cellphone out and video her going YEAH GIVE IT TO ME BABY IM NOT THAT WASTED WOOOOOOOO GO YANKEES. You're golden after that is shown in court.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. But anyway, I've noticed that a lot of women tend to get intoxicated much faster than men (for the most part...not always).For this reason I let them make the first move. Whether I'm intoxicated or not, I feel that [whatever happens] is what they want so I don't feel as bad about it. Usually I don't let myself get so far gone that I don't know what's going on and don't do something I'll regret. I guess that makes me more responsible on the subject.

On this topic, has anyone heard the Willie Nelson song "Ten With a Two?"